UPA's 14.1 event
- Thread starter Grady
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Me too. I ran 11 balls one time, where the hell is my invite?
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Just face it. No UPA invites, No BCA Hall of Fame and No re-match with Bruce B.
Doug
( but at 64 you've still got your figure................. and Randi )
Grady said:
Just face it. No UPA invites, No BCA Hall of Fame and No re-match with Bruce B.
Doug
( but at 64 you've still got your figure................. and Randi )
I can't go to Maryland to play in the Straight Pool there because of family commitments. It says on the flyer for that event that the top two finishers will qualify for what I think Dragon Promotions cals a World Straight Pool Championship. That's all I know except that last year I tried to get an invite but failed.
9balllvr said:
I think there is a UPA 14.1 world championship and a Dragon 14.1 world championship. I myself am going to get down to 165 and play in the junior welterweight 14.1 world championship which will follow the Nathans Hot Dogs 14.1 world championship and precede the Vivid Video 14.1 reverse cowgirl world championship.
Grady said:
There is a list of qualifiers on the DP site, so there are more locations apparently:
Qualifiers will be held at the following location and dates:
June 2 House of Billiards- Weert, Netherlands contact Maurice at info@hobweert.nl
June 9 Danny K's - Los Angeles,CA contact Danny at (714) 771-9706
June 9-10 Bill & Billie's CuesPort - Baltimore MD $2500 added contact Peter at peterpool@comcast.net
June 23 Drexeline Billiards - Philadelphia,PA contact Bob at (610) 259-9144
June 30 G-Cue - Chicago,IL contact Tom at karabatsos@comcast.net (312) 850-3170
June 30 Amsterdam Billiards - New York, NY contact Greg at 212-496-8180
corvette1340 said:
I think it sucks if Grady's not getting invited to the biggest 14.1 event of the year, but also I think this post was hilarious. Made me laugh in my cubicle.
Grady, if anyone deserves in invitation, you deserve an invitation. I truly don't understand why there should be such politics involved in who gets to play tournaments and who doesn't.
-Andrew
Grady said:
It was reported by some players who were in attendance last year that the playing conditions were not up to par -- poor lighting, water leaking from the roof onto the tables, extraordinarily long wait times between matches resulting in players having to compete at 2:00 and 3:00 a.m., and favoritism given to selected players to compete at convenient times when others had to stand by for hours on end.
Why not produce your own 14.1 tournament and show the pool world what a straight-pool tournament is supposed to be like. You certainly have many more years of experience in this arena, and there just may be a sponsor who would provide you the means to make this happen.
As they say in the movie "Field of Dreams, build it and they will come. I don't think you would have any problem making this a reality if you decide you would like to tackle something like this.
It is curious how one person can pick and choose who they want to compete in tournaments and then leave competent and qualified players by the wayside.
JAM
JAM said:
That is just the American way. The person putting on the tournament should be able to pick and choose whomever they want to play in the tournament if it is by invitation. If it is advertised as OPEN then everyone can play but if it is an invitational tournament then I'm not quite sure what you are griping about. Why don't you get sponsors and put on an invitational and invite Keith, Grady, and all of their friends and leave Charlie out?
But this is not an American tournament except for the fact that it is held in the US. It is the WPA World Championship. I assume that the WPA sets most of the player selection criteria. It is usual for the tournament organizer, and sometimes the local national member of the world organization (which would be the BCA/UPA in this case), to have some spots (wild cards) that they can choose.corvette1340 said:
In an ideal world, there would be a US National 14.1 Championship and the top players from that would go the the World Tournament. Instead, there is no US pool championship of any kind except juniors. While there is a US 3-Cushion Champion and a US Snooker Champion, there is no US National Men's Champion in any form of pool.
corvette1340 said:
And I'm not quite sure why my post warrants a response by you as saying that I am griping. I am simply providing a blessed opinion, like most do on this forum. You see it as griping; I see it as stating my opinion based on the facts which I mentioned.
corvette1340 said:
Truthfully, I don't think Keith would be interested in competing in a 14.1 tournament. However, there are some renown great 14.1 players who are deserving and worthy for consideration. Allen Hopkins' name comes to mind, and let's not forget Mike Zuglan, a 14.1 phenom. Remember him? I sure do.
JAM
P.S. and an Edit: Some of the names I saw the invited player roster haven't been playing straight pool for more than a couple of years. That's kind of comical now, ain't it?! World championship with pool players who haven't played 14.1 for more than a year or two.
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I'm trying now to finalize location and sponsors for One Pocket and Straight Pool. But honestly, I'm hard pressed to ask why I shouldn't bar UPA players since nobody stands up for the Harrimans, the McCreadys and the Mathews'.
I went through this last year. It's easy to open up an event and have a true World Championship. 128 players or just have it open, not any hand picked cronies.
Noone who is qualified with talent (like my friend Blackjack) or credentials should have to sit at home, even if the conditions are less than perfect.
I really hate to be the one to say and do this but Charlie Williams and the UPA need to be watched. They're dangerous, IMHO.
I went through this last year. It's easy to open up an event and have a true World Championship. 128 players or just have it open, not any hand picked cronies.
Noone who is qualified with talent (like my friend Blackjack) or credentials should have to sit at home, even if the conditions are less than perfect.
I really hate to be the one to say and do this but Charlie Williams and the UPA need to be watched. They're dangerous, IMHO.
JAM said:
Im sure there are a lot of people that deserve invites, but the fact remains that the person in charge of getting sponsors and putting on the tourney has the power. I would personally like to see Mike Templeton get an invite, but so far he hasn't either.
JAM said:
I agree with this whole post 100%. Nicely said.
Grady said:
lol, I think I did read a story on the internet the other day about the UPA becoming entirely too big and powerful. I also think its about time a watch group was established. I also heard that they carry chinese stars and nun-chucks, so the watch group would definitely need a leader with street credentials. If you are reading this Dragon, the word is out amigo. Your reign of terror on the pool community will soon be over.
corvette1340 said:
Is Mike Templeton a renown 14.1 pool player? I did not know that.
What's a joke is to label a tournament as a "world championship" straight pool tournament and have a player roster consisting of pool players who haven't been playing straight pool for more than a year or two.
The "power," as you put it, was granted to an unknown entity by another unknown entity who worked for the BCA several years ago. When things got tough, one unknown entity jumped ship and left another player holding the bag with no funds and no means to continue.
I don't see anything wrong with an invitational tournament at all, but I do think it is ridiculous to call it a WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP 14.1 POOL TOURNAMENT when the competitors are a little green in the 14.1 department. Why not include actual, living, 14.1 pool champions who have existing titles to back up their skills set in the game of straight pool? Makes sense to me! JMHO, FWIW.
And by the way, just because I express an opinion about a topic, please don't bring my boyfriend's name into the picture. I didn't mention one word about Keith playing in a 14.1 tournament. You seem like a trouble-maker who likes to stir the pot.
JAM
JAM said:
Jam,
I haven't once said a single word about you or Keith or anyone else on this forum. The fact that I make light of certain subjects is apparently funny to some since I get a fair amount of rep and am generally liked. In fact, I often diffuse flame wars on here between people with my wit and banter. Like you, I am also entitled to my opinions and entitled to post in any thread on here. That is also the American way.
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corvette1340 said:
And your reign of terror on this forum is establishing a track record.
If I remember correctly, you're the guy who boasted on this forum for having a $150,000 job, plays Internet poker all day long on the job, and are enjoying a new arrival in your family. There are some people who have been in this pool racket for their entire life, and when incidents happen which affect their lives, it is not a laughing matter to joke about. Why not leave this topic to the big boys who have wisdom and go play some Texas Hold'em to pass the time.
JAM