Updated FargoRates are out

I quoted the part I disagreed with, and explained why he was wrong. There was no need to respond to the part that wasn't out of line, and since you only quote what you are responding to, it wasn't quoted. If you had thought about it just a little more you would have figured that out.

He’s okay with a neutral racker if a magic rack is used.

Knowing that, there was absolutely no reason for your tirade on rack manipulation.
 
He’s okay with a neutral racker if a magic rack is used.

Knowing that, there was absolutely no reason for your tirade on rack manipulation.

You didn't read all the posts very carefully. It is well known that Donny pretty much always tries to play rack your own, so with this in mind, it was a pretty good bet he had rack your own in mind with the offers he was making here too. In post #102 I even alluded to the fact that I was taking into consideration his history of always trying to play rack your own when I said "You want magic rack, and probably rack your own as well...". He didn't correct me to say "no, I would be glad to have a neutral racker", and the reason for that that makes the most sense is because that is exactly what he was wanting. When I mentioned several more times after that things about the rack your own format that he probably wanted, at no point did he correct me on those times either to say "no actually I would be glad to have a neutral racker", and again the reason that makes the most sense for this is that rack your own was indeed what he was wanting and was still hoping to be able to hold out for at that point. At no point did he ever say he would be willing to even consider a neutral racker under any condition (even though I had previously mentioned neutral rackers numerous times) until post #126 today, the one that you commented about that started our little dialog.
 
A broken record of nonsense.

JC

That is awful easy to say but I noticed that you couldn't point to a single thing I said in this thread that was nonsense, and explain why it was nonsense so we knew it wasn't just you that was looking at the truth but incorrectly seeing the truth as nonsense.

I get that you are still upset because I have made you look stupid in the past, even though that wasn't the intention, but holding a grudge where you look to attack people on things where you can't back it up just serve to do the opposite of what you were hoping for and just make you look even sillier.
 
If it were true it would be a compliment. As with much of the other nonsense you believe, whatever sounds good to you is what you latch onto regardless of how out of thin air and silly it may be.

Just like from Seinfeld " not that there's anything wrong with it " lol. But I am only saying this because OF WHAT YOU YOURSELF HAVE SAID. As always, just more hot air out of ya. Don't know what " nonsense " you speak of nor what I " latch " onto but don't really care so I suppose it is moot. When I just opened this thread and scrolled to the end of last page, I thought for sure Justin was posting when I saw so thing like 10 responses in a row lol. Ever heard / seen the " multi quote button? If not someone will help you with it, not me but someone might.
 
To spell it out once again, I am not saying that there is a wrong way to match up or gamble. However two people want to play is up to them, and if somebody can manage to get some massive advantages with the game or conditions then more power to them.

What I am saying is that there are right and wrong ways to play IF the purpose of that session is to tell you something meaningful about the accuracy of FargoRate, and proving something about the accuracy of FargoRate was precisely Donny's entire point and purpose. To do that you are going to have to play multiple sets, you are not going to be able to play a game that one player has no experience with, you are going to have to make sure that only skills on the table can determine the winner and not rack manipulation or anything else, etc. In other words just about everything would have to be different than what Donny proposed if saying something about the accuracy of FargoRate is the goal, and that is in fact his goal.
 
I didn’t see Donny say that his goal was to test Fargorate’s accuracy. He just put out a challenge to other players with similar ratings. (And, let’s be honest, people don’t make matches in the middle of a thread on AZ about Fargo ratings, so matching up really wasn’t his goal either.)
 
Just like from Seinfeld " not that there's anything wrong with it " lol. But I am only saying this because OF WHAT YOU YOURSELF HAVE SAID.
Show me where I have ever said I was a cop. I haven't, so if you are trying to claim or insinuate that I have, which is what it sounds like, then you aren't just someone who believes in silly stuff for no reason but would also be a liar.


As always, just more hot air out of ya.

Like I told several other posters, point to anything I have said in this thread that was nonsense. And because we all know that dumb or confused people will often see truths and facts as being nonsense, explain how what I said is nonsense so we know this isn't just a case of you just mistakenly seeing a truth as being nonsense when it was really just the truth. I'll be waiting.
 
That is awful easy to say but I noticed that you couldn't point to a single thing I said in this thread that was nonsense, and explain why it was nonsense so we knew it wasn't just you that was looking at the truth but incorrectly seeing the truth as nonsense.

I get that you are still upset because I have made you look stupid in the past, even though that wasn't the intention, but holding a grudge where you look to attack people on things where you can't back it up just serve to do the opposite of what you were hoping for and just make you look even sillier.

I have no grudge in fact I had forgotten all about you in every way until you cropped up here with familiar sounding nonsense.

There is no point in singling out any of your marginally coherent drivel, it speaks for itself to all but you.

JC

PS you only made yourself look stupid in the past and the present. You are really quite delusional.
 
There is no point in singling out any of your marginally coherent drivel, it speaks for itself to all but you.

Exactly what I expected somebody to say who was caught talking out their a$$ and actually had nothing. Still waiting.
 
I didn’t see Donny say that his goal was to test Fargorate’s accuracy. He just put out a challenge to other players with similar ratings. (And, let’s be honest, people don’t make matches in the middle of a thread on AZ about Fargo ratings, so matching up really wasn’t his goal either.)

I don't see any ambiguity regarding Donny's thoughts on the inaccuracy of FargoRate, and the purpose for his offers. You should read again starting where Donny came in at post #82, keeping in mind that the discussion prior to that was everybody arguing about whether FargoRate was accurate or not, and see if you still feel the same way. Everyone seemed to think he made his points on those two things quite clear actually.
 
Keep waiting nits, I don't argue merits with the incoherent.:wink:

JC

More like the incoherent couldn't find anything to support his delusion. Of course you aren't going to admit you were talking out your a$$ and can't point to a single thing that was nonsense since it doesn't exist. If you could you would.

Now, since you obviously don't have anything of substance to argue or add to the discussion, can we get back on topic without your personal attacks that add nothing?
 
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You can't really be dense enough to think that the racks from two different people will be more similar than the racks from only one person, particularly when one of the two people is known for their ability to manipulate the rack and may have a totally different goal in mind for their racks than the other party does.

You put your offer out specifically because you believe FargoRate is inaccurate, and you wanted a way to offer evidence of that by playing someone higher ranked so that if you beat them it would be evidence to help support your contention. The point you and some others that are a bit slow still seem to be missing is that you are proving nothing about how accurately FargoRate has your or Siming Chen rated if you play only one set. You are proving nothing if you play a game that she doesn't even play. You are proving nothing if rack manipulation can be a factor. If you just want to gamble, by all means do it however you want. But if you want to try to prove something about FargoRate, which was your entire point, then you are going to have to play many sets of a game you both have experience with and in a way that pool skill alone decides the winner and not rack manipulation/reading, or wearing somebody out in a format they have never played, or anything else besides pool skill.


Besides Siming Chen I named 3 other people I would play a long set with and I'll give up a spot to them even though they are rated higher than me. Magic rack neutral racker. According to Fargo I have 20% chance to win them. I disagree. I feel I'm 80% to win and I'm ready to bet high on it. Any takers??
 
can we get back on topic without your personal attacks that add nothing?

Can you?

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I get that you are still upset because I have made you look stupid in the past, even though that wasn't the intention, but holding a grudge where you look to attack people on things where you can't back it up just serve to do the opposite of what you were hoping for and just make you look even sillier.
 
More like the incoherent couldn't find anything to support his delusion. Of course you aren't going to admit you were talking out your a$$ and can't point to a single thing that was nonsense since it doesn't exist. If you could you would.

Now, since you obviously don't have anything of substance to argue or add to the discussion, can we get back on topic without your personal attacks that add nothing?

Here's some nonsense you posted from Post #119

No, what is fairest is a neutral racker who racks with a triangle rack. That way you both get the same racks,




Do explain how they would get the same racks using a triangle rack? Have you even played pool before?
 
Show me where I have ever said I was a cop. I haven't, so if you are trying to claim or insinuate that I have, which is what it sounds like, then you aren't just someone who believes in silly stuff for no reason but would also be a liar.




Like I told several other posters, point to anything I have said in this thread that was nonsense. And because we all know that dumb or confused people will often see truths and facts as being nonsense, explain how what I said is nonsense so we know this isn't just a case of you just mistakenly seeing a truth as being nonsense when it was really just the truth. I'll be waiting.


It was months ago. I have no idea what thread. The thread had something to do with / morphed into a legal discussion. I had someone who was arguing with you on that thread pm me and said they thought you sounded like a cop, and I agreed. After that I actually indicated it in that thread I believe. I seem to remember an affirming response, but for sure no denial. In another thread a couple of weeks later you mentioned " ticketing someone ". That was what I was mostly basing it on. Most recently; a week or two ago, in a response to you I called you " a so called cop " with again no denial. Bottom line it does not matter to me one little bit if you are or are not. I actually have no problems with cops, I have many cop buddies - some very close buddies. The whole reason it was brought up because the discussion was something along the lines of the moralities of the pool culture and my opinion as well as many others were the only people that felt the way you were presenting yourself were leos.
 
Here's some nonsense you posted from Post #119






Do explain how they would get the same racks using a triangle rack? Have you even played pool before?

It doesn't matter he is a great talker but no doubt in my mind he would not put any cash up against him and that's all that really matters

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What’s our game Donnie Mills? You break better than me in every game but I will play any game you want. Last time we played I got the last 5 lol.
 
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