US OPEN: This breaking format is killing me...

Don't you have the option if it's your turn to break, to pass the break to the other player?
Could have sworn i remember this from ages ago, but what do i know.
I could have dreamed it.

Is this some obscure rule from the past or am i imagining things?
 
The rules are in place so the best player/not the best breaker wins.

There's a reason Shane didn't win last year.

SVB fanboys tick me off as well but dude... Shane got second place the last two years running in the World 9-ball championships. It is not like he is a chump after the break...

Do I think that post break Pagulayan, Dennis and Wu play better? Yeah. But after a short list of about 6-8 players I pretty much run out of people I think actually "shoot" better than SVB after the break. SVB can play. Break rules or not, SVB is still one of the top 6-8 threats to win this event.
 
The rules are in place so the best player/not the best breaker wins.
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Yeah that's the rumor. Wouldn't the best player be considered the fully rounded player who has developed his break so his break is as strong as the rest of his game? Hmmmmmm?
 
Yeah that's the rumor. Wouldn't the best player be considered the fully rounded player who has developed his break so his break is as strong as the rest of his game? Hmmmmmm?

I agree! If you can't break, you should be sitting on the bench. I'm tired of all the people who don't know how to break trying to stay in the game by creating a bunch of BS rules that penalize somebody who knows how to break.

It should be winner break, too!

If you don't get to shoot, then it isn't your day.

If you can't break and string them, then maybe you should have spent a little less on your break cue and more on table time learning how to break.
 
The 3 ball past the headstring rule or whatever variation they have come up with for this tournament is just dumb and unnecessary. I'll be passing on buying this stream. Nothing like making two balls and being told to take your seat.

i was watching in person i seen two balls made and the breaker kept the table saw this on the stream table and on other tables as well.
 
Mini break box and 9 on the spot... no way in hell are you making 2 balls without something going past the headstring...

I saw Donny Mills match and most of his breaks where two balls made and one ball past the head string.
 
SUPERSTAR, if it was an illegal break the in coming player has the option to give it back to the breaker, but if the breaker is given back the table he can not push out.
 
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Dear Pat,

The stream matches have been unbearable to watch. What's the point of making a tournament winner break if pretty much no one has a chance to putting a package together....

Nine ball on the spot, mini break box AND you have to pot or get 3 balls past the head string.....

At times, its almost a disadvantage to be breaking.

You should really consider changing this to only nine on the spot, or mini break box.

I'm pretty sure packages get fans excited. There should be some added difficulty but again, the key word should be SOME.

Sincerely,
Fillup

not true, i watched the Morris and Dominguez match, Morris ran a three pack in the first match on the Stream table. I saw plenty of break and runs on other tables, and saw two 9 on the breaks wins for to the breaker regardless of number of balls past the head string
 
SVB fanboys tick me off as well but dude... Shane got second place the last two years running in the World 9-ball championships. It is not like he is a chump after the break...

Do I think that post break Pagulayan, Dennis and Wu play better? Yeah. But after a short list of about 6-8 players I pretty much run out of people I think actually "shoot" better than SVB after the break. SVB can play. Break rules or not, SVB is still one of the top 6-8 threats to win this event.

Yes I agree. Didn't mean to come across as saying Shane sucks. He obviously doesn't.

To your point about the World 9 Ball, they rack the 1 on the spot. Big difference.
 
Yes I agree. Didn't mean to come across as saying Shane sucks. He obviously doesn't.

To your point about the World 9 Ball, they rack the 1 on the spot. Big difference.

Now that i think about it, the 1 was also on the spot on all the matches i saw yesterday.
 
I'm with the classic 9 ball break crowd Yes, we do get excited when we see some nice packages. If a huge package, we will go wild and that package will get talked about for years to come.

As to the better breaker shouldn't have an advantage? I call total BS on this one. So a player would in essence be heavily penalized because they spent countless, hours, days, weeks, months and even years practicing and perfecting their break technique. Practicing and all types of tables, clothes, rails, cue balls, cues, ambient temperature and relative humidity. All of that work just gone! Gone because others chose NO TO put in the time and effort. If you believe this is OK then why not make up a way to " equalize " bank shots on the money balls? Since we are here and it seems like what yall really want, let's just handicap the entire US Open using FARGO! Why in the hell can't the players just be allowed go get up there and battle it out, just like they always did!

All that practice isn't for naught.

They just need to make some slight adjustments. You can still get a good break with these rules. It'll just be a little different.

And let's not forget the most important thing. Every single player in this event knew about the break rules and equipment FOR MONTHS!

So who's fault is it if they didn't spend thirty minutes to an hour each day practicing their break under these conditions?
 
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Its 9 ball for crying out loud.

This break thing is a concern, but its ok to smash kick at a ball when you can't see it, it then kisses off the 9, sends the 9 around the table like a pinball game, off three more balls and into the pocket.

Happy days.... you win! Really? REALLY??? And that's ok ..? No problem, I got it.
 
Its 9 ball for crying out loud.

This break thing is a concern, but its ok to smash kick at a ball when you can't see it, it then kisses off the 9, sends the 9 around the table like a pinball game, off three more balls and into the pocket.

Happy days.... you win! Really? REALLY??? And that's ok ..? No problem, I got it.

The break rules aren't meant to take luck away. Two different things.
 
While I'm here, I think we should all be honest about one thing. The best breakers are usually the best rack mechanics. Some would call them cheaters.

Seems like the 9 on the spot, Accu-Rack, and break box handle that quite well.
 
If the magic rack is used and a ref racks the ball there would be no "rack mechanics"
And since the break IS part of the game, then players with a bad break, simply needs to practice more!
I've heard Shane practices breaking for hours and hours, why does he do that? Because the break is a big part of the game.
Having said that, I think pro tournaments should abandon 9 ball all together in favour of 10 ball.
 
The break rules aren't meant to take luck away. Two different things.

My point is, what the heck difference does it make in the big picture of a game like 9 ball.

Edit... btw, I can't play that game for more than 30 minutes wthout being bored silly, so I don't know one rack method from the next. Whatever makes it less likely to crap in balls is better imo.

I get a kick out of these players who study the rack for 10 minutes, request multiple re-racks, look at it again, wave their hand at it in disgust like it sucks but I give up .... and then proceed to break and 3 balls fly in.

What a bunch of crap. There are real games of pool available that should determine world champions. Games worthy of the title us open world champion.

When there is a game where the break is the most significant determining factor, something is flawed with the game at its core.
 
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I've seen a couple forfeits on the chart -- this, after they win their first match. Then forfeit the second match?

Is there all-night action going on at Q-Masters? Just curious. Can't imagine why anyone would forfeit a match on the winner's side after winning a match on the winner's side.
 
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