I can assure you that Robert Rugnao AKA "Memo Bob" and Tony are not even close to being friendly. Tony kicked Uncle Larry and Bob out of the USPPA a few years back... Goes to show, things are always what they seem.
USPPA Reno players, did they get paid?
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I can assure you that Robert Rugnao AKA "Memo Bob" and Tony are not even close to being friendly. Tony kicked Uncle Larry and Bob out of the USPPA a few years back... Goes to show, things are always what they seem.
Once the KT founded the IPT and that scandal went big, all the wannabe sharks found new prey. And it is working the same old story of helping a guy out.
Never thought I see posts from someone verifying gov records but that is much respect to you.
If the players make it through the first five since the IPT you can bet the next ten are going to get more exciting.
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A corporation doing business under it's own name doesn't need a ficticious.
http://www.mycorporation.com/business-formations/dba.jsp?view=faqs#Q2
A ficticious is just to establish a dba. A corporation is an entity with a registered name, so as long as it does business under it's own name, a dba is not required.
After this I will have to start charging.
Chris
I can't comment about that, but my guess would be that someone wanted to establish a bank account to accept payment to USPPA, so the bank wanted to see a fictitious and a business license to open an account.
It's also possible that it was run as a sole proprietorship then turned into a corp after the filing.
Chris
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Received an email today from a rep from the Peppermill. They sent me the following quote that was made in the January issue of The Break magazine and asked me to post the quote here...
“Peppermill Resort Spa Casino was the headquarter hotel for the USPPA/Two Cushion Club - Pacific Rim Billiards Expo that took place November 28-December 5, 2010. Peppermill provided the venue for the Billiards tournament but was not involved in billiards tournament registration, rating or handicapping of billiards players, collection of billiards tournament registration fees or payment of billiards tournament prize monies.”
Mike
“Peppermill Resort Spa Casino was the headquarter hotel for the USPPA/Two Cushion Club - Pacific Rim Billiards Expo that took place November 28-December 5, 2010. Peppermill provided the venue for the Billiards tournament but was not involved in billiards tournament registration, rating or handicapping of billiards players, collection of billiards tournament registration fees or payment of billiards tournament prize monies.”
Mike
yep
There was an earlier post which supplied a link to the magazine and page(s) where this was stated. If there was any reference made about the casino holding out on any payments related to the tournament, this would refute that, and just makes the whole thing seem that much shadier.
There was an earlier post which supplied a link to the magazine and page(s) where this was stated. If there was any reference made about the casino holding out on any payments related to the tournament, this would refute that, and just makes the whole thing seem that much shadier.
According to Tony's article ( http://www.azbilliards.com/2000storya.php?storynum=7709 ) "The USPPA Tournament has 15,000 minimum added with an entry of $100." That's 99 x 100.00 + $15k = $25k.... If the Peppermill didn't add the money, where was it coming from? Tony?
yes, but...
...however, nowhere in that statement does it say that the casino did not add money to the prize fund.......I don't know if they are saying that they ONLY PROVIDED THE VENUE for the tournament, and that was their total involvement.........
...however, nowhere in that statement does it say that the casino did not add money to the prize fund.......I don't know if they are saying that they ONLY PROVIDED THE VENUE for the tournament, and that was their total involvement.........
The Peppermill added the money for the poker tournament that was held alongside the pool tournament. All the money for the poker tournament was paid out immediately. The added money for the USPPA pool tournament was supposed to come from the USPPA, but it is not there???
The same article says:
"... We think we got the best rate considering all that the hotel is providing including a $50,000 free roll poker tournament which players in the Open, Simonis Tour Championship and USPPA Qualified Players will get a free entry in. Out of that money $10,000 is earmarked for a World Series of Poker Seat for the winner. Last year’s World Series had over 6 million in prize money which we think is a good incentive for a tournament or tournaments with real added money. "
It looks like the Peppermill's interest were in renting rooms, having a poker tournament and included added money for the their poker tournament.
My question is, who was suppose to pay for the $15,000 added money for the USPPA players? And, where did that money $15k + $10k entries go? I know where the $10k entries came from - what was the source for the $15k - who was suppose to pay that? If it wasn't Tony and it wasn't the USPPA and it wasn't the Peppermill - who was it?
This pretty much kills the Peppermill as a host site for any future pool tournaments. And will make it very difficult for any pool tournament promoter to do business in Reno. Like I said earlier, one more black mark for pool.
Oh man, I think that you are 100% correct Jay. I know that if I got involved with someone on a deal and after the fact I had to publicly clear my name its just not someone I would want to do biz with again and maybe pool could get all painted with the same brush.
Imagine having to go to the effort to make sure that everyone knew that you were not responsible for missing $$?
This is my personal opinion - Tony did not discuss his contract with Peppermill with me or do I have an insider from Peppermill contract vault. Just purely my speculation! So no one threat me with law suit or whatever
I 'think' the added money was to come from Peppermill. And yes I read their statement about they are not involved with USPPA other than providing the venue. However, it is just a vague statement to clear Peppermill from this fiasco.
I 'think', 'maybe' Peppermill agree to add the $15K based on room fill, new player's cards opened & money spent by USPPA players & family and the quota was simply not met.
Remember, Tony A. was supposed to hold a Pro Event in conjunction to USPPA Championship and canceled it at last minute too?
... Just my dumb guess but if I'm wrong, maybe Tony A. could reply and tell me I'm a dumb ass :wave:
S.G.
This is a disaster for the USPPA because they just stiffed their best and most loyal customers. I would have to say at this point that, for all intent and purposes, the USPPA is technically bankrupt.
In my opinion, the players need to come together to unite behind each other and consider witholding participation until the prize fund is fully paid from Reno, or a reasonable payment plan has been worked out. I also don't think it was fair that some were paid and some were not. If only some funds were available, the same percentage should have gone to everybody.
If everybody just boycotts USPPA, it will disappear and the winners will not get paid and the members will lose their tournaments. Whoever is in charge of USPPA needs to come forward and show some leadership to save this organization.
I was always under the impression that Reno was a bonus for playing in the USPPA all year. My assumption is a percentage of the proceeds from weekly events was to go toward the added funds in Reno.
In my opinion, the players need to come together to unite behind each other and consider witholding participation until the prize fund is fully paid from Reno, or a reasonable payment plan has been worked out. I also don't think it was fair that some were paid and some were not. If only some funds were available, the same percentage should have gone to everybody.
If everybody just boycotts USPPA, it will disappear and the winners will not get paid and the members will lose their tournaments. Whoever is in charge of USPPA needs to come forward and show some leadership to save this organization.
I was always under the impression that Reno was a bonus for playing in the USPPA all year. My assumption is a percentage of the proceeds from weekly events was to go toward the added funds in Reno.
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Let me think of a destination that is hard-up enough to want to cater to pool tournaments. Hmmmmm.... Laughlin, Nevada. I just looked and you can get a weeknight room for $20 with a free night, $10 average. Amazing.
Chris
$25,250 Added/US Bar Table pays in CASH!!
http://www.playbca.com/Events/201118thAnnualBarTableChampionships.aspx
Go to that link and see what the USBTC is all about.
We pay cash every Year.
8-ball - men & women
9-ball - men & women
10-ball - men & women
All Around: Men & Women
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The Reno Sands has sponsored pool events for over 25 years.
Support them back!
On-Line sign-ups available.
Go to www.playbca.com and find it on the front page!
Mark Griffin
702-719-7665
markg@playcsipool.com
http://www.playbca.com/Events/201118thAnnualBarTableChampionships.aspx
Go to that link and see what the USBTC is all about.
We pay cash every Year.
8-ball - men & women
9-ball - men & women
10-ball - men & women
All Around: Men & Women
--------------------------------------------------------------
The Reno Sands has sponsored pool events for over 25 years.
Support them back!
On-Line sign-ups available.
Go to www.playbca.com and find it on the front page!
Mark Griffin
702-719-7665
markg@playcsipool.com
Reno BAr Table
The Rooms at the Sands for the US Bar Table are $18 and $40 on weekends!
Can't beat that deal!!! Over $56,000 paid out in 2009.
We always pay all of our winners in Cash.
Mark Griffin-CEO
CSI- BCAPL - USAPL
The Rooms at the Sands for the US Bar Table are $18 and $40 on weekends!
Can't beat that deal!!! Over $56,000 paid out in 2009.
We always pay all of our winners in Cash.
Mark Griffin-CEO
CSI- BCAPL - USAPL
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Do they have kitchenettes style rooms? I'll go if it has one. And how close is a supermarket?
The worst at hotels is when someone takes all the bacon at the buffet line and then its a half hour wait for the next tray.
Jeffersontown, Kentucky has a movie theater and hotels. How about there? With kitchenettes and supermarket.
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