Vegas question

garczar said:
The weather is still good, golf is great, food is still good but not as cheap, good pool scene with multiple rooms and no Tony Spilotro to put you in a hole if you f^&k up. ;)
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lol...avoid the desert tour, for sure. My family and I were card counters so we knew how to play the cat and mouse game pretty well, and more importantly we knew when to walk away. I split tens one time when the count was almost high enough to do that, in order to throw off two bosses watching me spread my bets waaaaaay beyond the norm,. I caught another ten and did not split those and won both hands. The bosses laughed out loud and never watched me again. lol. That was good one.

I'm gonna make it a good week, no matter what.

I miss the $1.59 local's breakfast buffet in the basement of the Horseshoe. Last time it was upstairs and it sucked and was pricey, etc.


Jeff Livingston
 
chefjeff said:
lol....I was just aying that to my wife, "I almost wish we hadn't won."

But it's a 6 man team and I'm a team player.

I did Vegas many times in the 70's and 80's when the mob ran the place like it should be run. It was fun then and easy and cheap and beautiful in its own way.

It's been 20 years or so since I was there and I hated it.


Jeff Livingston
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Vegas has been good to me for earning a living and I have lots of friends there. But as a place to live it’s not my bag. If I never went back that’s ok with me. I go 2-3 times a year is all now-just to put my eyes on my properties. When those are gone-unlikely I’d go back. Maybe for pool I’d go, once a year.
 
garczar said:
The weather is still good, golf is great, food is still good but not as cheap, good pool scene with multiple rooms and no Tony Spilotro to put you in a hole if you f^&k up. ;)
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Joseph Vincent Cusumano​


Is alive and well still.

Gaming Control Board/Gaming Commission

gaming.nv.gov gaming.nv.gov

One of the last of the “Outfit” guys left in town. I used to know him. He was in the phone room biz in the early 90’s. Always liked him. No guess work-it was clear where you were at with him.

I like guys like him better than corporate neckties 9 days a week.

I miss old school Vegas. It’s a clown show now

Fatboy<——-been around a while

Edit: https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/survivor-remembers-las-vegas-mob-days/


That’s a great article.
 
chefjeff said:
lol....I was just aying that to my wife, "I almost wish we hadn't won."

But it's a 6 man team and I'm a team player.

I did Vegas many times in the 70's and 80's when the mob ran the place like it should be run. It was fun then and easy and cheap and beautiful in its own way.

It's been 20 years or so since I was there and I hated it.


Jeff Livingston
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I have said for a long time that if the mob had ever dreamed the suckers would let them take 50% of everything ,from the numbers racket, when they ran it , they would have run the world by now.
 
I was actually taught a fractional counting system in the late 60s, It was much more complicated and accurate than the one they came up with later , and would have been nearly impossible to catch. Problem was, almost everywhere you could make any real money, and needed such sophistication, {anywhere else the paper and deuces would get it all,} was run by gangsters. I decided I would leave that scam to someone a lot tougher than me.
 
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Fatboy said:
There are no beatable 21 games left anywhere. The last one I saw that was beatable was in 2005. Since then they have tightened up the rules and can’t win. I e checked casinos all over the world personally. 😔
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I played on a Royal Carribean cruise ship a few years ago and until I had lost a C note, I hadn't noticed there were NO KINGS IN THE DECK.

I accused them of theft. They didn't even give one shit.


Jeff Livingston
 
jeagle64 said:
No such thing as a ‘free puppy’.
1200$ a man for travel expenses is pretty good tho. Can u just stay home and keep the cash?


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Nope, gotta spend it on the trip. That's the purpose of it all.


Jeff Livingston
 
chefjeff said:
I played on a Royal Carribean cruise ship a few years ago and until I had lost a C note, I hadn't noticed there were NO KINGS IN THE DECK.

I accused them of theft. They didn't even give one shit.


Jeff Livingston
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That’s so bad, taking 4 “10’s” out of the deck on singly deck is huge bad for the player.

They are in international water and land based gaming regulations don’t apply. Some areas it’s 3 miles off shore others it’s 6 miles. Not to far. I knew a guy who owned a gaming boat-he lost his ass in it. When tribal land based casinos popped up in Florida it was all over for the gaming boats. He tried to run out of Corpus Christi Texas but not enough action.
 
banditgrrr said:
Try the Oyo Hotel. It's the old Hooters hotel. They used to be on Groupon for $22 a night midweek. It's directly across the street from the Tropicana.
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Before that it was the San Remo hotel, we used to go there to eat steak for $5 back when Vegas was the only place on earth you could eat steak when you were broke.
 
book collector said:
I was actually taught a fractional counting system in the late 60s, It was much more complicated and accurate than the one they came up with later , and would have been nearly impossible to catch. Problem was, almost everywhere you could make any real money, and needed such sophistication, {anywhere else the paper and deuces would get it all,} was run by gangsters. I decided I would leave that scam to someone a lot tougher than me.
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Beat the Dealer by Thorp, the engineer, was the first book to bring about a real winning system. 10s and non 10s, I believe was the count.

It started it all. Then Revere's (not real name) Blackjack as a Business went viral, so to speak.

Then in the 80's Arnold Snyder developed The Blackjack Forum quarterly rag that set the standard for years.

The weird thing is Thorp's book made Vegas change their rules, but the gamblers stopped playing, as opposed to today where folks just line up to be robbed. The changes in the 60's lasted a week, imsmc, but the same or worse changes today bring no concern so they've stuck.

I played a bj machine at the bar at Griff's for a couple of hours and won 10 bucks. Woo Hoo. I was comped for my drinks!!!!!!!!!!! Just like the old days. I never sat at a table, as the minimums were way too high for rules that cannot be overcome by counting or shuffle tracking, etc.. I was willing to give 'em $500 for a decent game, but they didn't want it.

I did put $5 in a slot and won $60 on the first try. Cashed out immediately.


Jeff Livingston
 
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