Old school veneers, just fine with me.Recuts just don't get me going like veneers, anyone else have a opinion?
Thank you very much.I like whatever Mike Webb does when he sends me pictures of his recent builds. Of course he does it because he knows I want one, and he isn't taking orders.
That would be called. Milled one piece veneers.Suppose you used a fixture and made the entire set of recuts separately, then installed them in the cue. Then they would be an inlay. If you do them starting right in the cue itself as the "fixture", then it is all a recut. Even though it's the same structurally.
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Ok, so traditional points use a square block that has thin veneers glued to it. a 90 degree v-groove bit cuts a pocket at an angle making a "point" and the "points" with the veneers stacked and glued on top of each other is layed at an angle into the pocket that is cut with the v-groove bit and glued in place. When it is turned round with the rest of the cue, it will look like what you think of as veneered points.could someone explain the difference please?
Really, the only way I could see doing truly phenomenal recuts would be to use a 4 axis cnc with a rotary axis. You would have to glue and turn each one without removing it from the rotary axis. The biggest problem with doing recuts is just what you said, getting the positioning accurate for subsequent recuts.They looks like recuts to me, no miters visible.
In my opinion, recuts are more difficult to do on a milling machine than putting together traditional veneers. They require extreme accuracy and a very stable machine to get uniform thickness, when showing the same width as veneers. Theoretically they will be stronger and less prone to lifting and separation in the long haul.
Don’t need a cnc to do recuts. Mine are done on 40 year old mill.Would point recuts be so common these days if cue-makers did not have cnc?
I actually think that veneers *theoretically* can be stronger/more integrated into the vibration characteristics. This is with the grain going long as it usually does, and essentially fully parallel along the force lines. All with perfect joinery and glue technique. In recuts, the grain is different - it is not parallel to the slope, but more or less parallel to the axis of the cue. That probably sounds good. But what it means is that all the individual grain lines in the outer parts are cut off to short parallel sections. Rather than the grainlines running straight to the point. I would expect "on paper" for recuts to hit softer. In practice, depending on thickness and modern glue, i doubt it matters much either way.
Re-cut gives the opportunity for more spectacular compositions.
Per recuts vs inlays: really, what's the difference?
Suppose you used a fixture and made the entire set of recuts separately, then installed them in the cue. Then they would be an inlay. If you do them starting right in the cue itself as the "fixture", then it is all a recut. Even though it's the same structurally.
smt
Amen Mr. MaddenDon’t need a cnc to do recuts. Mine are done on 40 year old mill.
Don’t need a cnc to do recuts. Mine are done on 40 year old mill.
For me, the need to know if I could define them, then do and understand them.As a question to those doing recuts - was your choice driven by Art? Function? Or some particular of efficiency?
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For me, the need to know if I could define them, then do and understand them.
Understood - like my 4 & 6 pt FS cues, i could do recuts on my 100 yr old planer, or 90 yr old shaper.
My question was "would they be so common".
IOW, How many are actually doing it on old machine tools like you & I use, or Mr Webb's engine lathe?
Or has the accessibility of 4 axis cnc opened up the option to many of the people doing it now?
I see (and commented above) that recuts offer a vastly increased opportunity for composition and more unusual grain patterns than veneers typically do. As a question to those doing recuts - was your choice driven by Art? Function? Or some particular of efficiency?
I just like the clean look. I guess you would say matching the different woods on the recuts so you produce a good looking cue would be an art. And get a kick out of building different cue everytime.Understood - like my 4 & 6 pt FS cues, i could do recuts on my 100 yr old planer, or 90 yr old shaper.
My question was "would they be so common".
IOW, How many are actually doing it on old machine tools like you & I use, or Mr Webb's engine lathe?
Or has the accessibility of 4 axis cnc opened up the option to many of the people doing it now?
I see (and commented above) that recuts offer a vastly increased opportunity for composition and more unusual grain patterns than veneers typically do. As a question to those doing recuts - was your choice driven by Art? Function? Or some particular of efficiency?
smt