Joe,
You thought that Dave's one DVD was undervalued? LOL Someone pulling this off could earn a Nobel Prize.
Paul
Video Encyclopedia of Pool Shots
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Joe,
You thought that Dave's one DVD was undervalued? LOL Someone pulling this off could earn a Nobel Prize.
Paul
My good Doctor,
I have just finished watching the entire video, and I know both you and Tom...that is Tom smiling and fooling around LOL :grin:. But he is very talented!
But seriously, as far as I'm concerned this series of dvd's would be as important to pool, or more so, than Ray Martin's "99 critical shots...", and that is a must for every pool player.
The 1st series I thought was awesome and certainly not just for beginners, it really does a great job of showing how to move the cue ball around with just a little bit of adjustment. I feel this is the one of the most important aspect of playing good pool, knowing where the cue ball is going so you can continue the run a heck of a lot more easily. This is very impressive. And as far as the question of too much content or not, not. I like when dvd's pack stuff in to refer to at your own pace. Grady does a good job of this on his tapes, and it's good value to pack it in as long as it's on topic, which this is.
But I agree that it would be helpful if the index was in written form to quickly refer to it and get to what you want to work on. Even though it's on your website to print out, I'm lazy and would rather have it included.
But the content was incredible and I can not wait to see the next 4 discs. Thanks to you and Tom for putting this together. You continue to provide a great service to the pool world.
Your friend,
Dave
I have just finished watching the entire video, and I know both you and Tom...that is Tom smiling and fooling around LOL :grin:. But he is very talented!
But seriously, as far as I'm concerned this series of dvd's would be as important to pool, or more so, than Ray Martin's "99 critical shots...", and that is a must for every pool player.
The 1st series I thought was awesome and certainly not just for beginners, it really does a great job of showing how to move the cue ball around with just a little bit of adjustment. I feel this is the one of the most important aspect of playing good pool, knowing where the cue ball is going so you can continue the run a heck of a lot more easily. This is very impressive. And as far as the question of too much content or not, not. I like when dvd's pack stuff in to refer to at your own pace. Grady does a good job of this on his tapes, and it's good value to pack it in as long as it's on topic, which this is.
But I agree that it would be helpful if the index was in written form to quickly refer to it and get to what you want to work on. Even though it's on your website to print out, I'm lazy and would rather have it included.
But the content was incredible and I can not wait to see the next 4 discs. Thanks to you and Tom for putting this together. You continue to provide a great service to the pool world.
Your friend,
Dave
I understand that any DVD "can be ripped," but having the copy protection will prevent many people from making illegal copies.
Thanks. If you do, I would appreciate (and I know and can expect) your candid review.
Regards,
Dave
Joe,
Wow! That's an ambitious plan! Are you sure you weren't a business or marketing professor ... and not a psychology professor? :grin:
Maybe if I ever retire from my "day job," and if VEPS does well, I will consider such a thing as a second "career."
Actually, I've already proposed a VEPS book to Barnes & Noble (the publisher of my first book). It won't be exactly like you describe, but it will make it easier for somebody to use VEPS for teaching and practice.
Regards,
Dave
PS: I think you should also be included in the consortium, to cover the mental side of the game (and to be the marketing representative). :grin:
Wow! That's an ambitious plan! Are you sure you weren't a business or marketing professor ... and not a psychology professor? :grin:
Maybe if I ever retire from my "day job," and if VEPS does well, I will consider such a thing as a second "career."
Actually, I've already proposed a VEPS book to Barnes & Noble (the publisher of my first book). It won't be exactly like you describe, but it will make it easier for somebody to use VEPS for teaching and practice.
Regards,
Dave
PS: I think you should also be included in the consortium, to cover the mental side of the game (and to be the marketing representative). :grin:
Paul,
I was also surprised by Joe's comment on the price. It's not common you see a customer asking you to charge more for your product. BTW, I didn't put Joe up to this; although, I can see how it looks "fishy."
Honestly, what do you and others feel is a fair price range for a 1.5 hour pool instructional DVD that contains information that you find interesting an useful? I thought $29.95 was fair, but I wonder if others (like Joe) think it could be higher. I also wonder if some people think it is too much.
Regards,
Dave
Thanks Dave. I appreciate this, especially coming from a great player like yourself.
I was a little worried about "information overload" at first, but I'm glad people seem to be OK with this.
... but if I included a copy of the list from the website, wouldn't you just lose it? :grin: When you do, you can just print another copy from the website.
In that case, why don't I just let you print the first copy? 
I'm just kidding. I can see now that it might be a good idea for us to include copies of the outline and complete indexed list of shots with each disc.
... but then I'll probably get a bunch of paper cuts trying to stuff the sheets into the packages. :frown: You're so mean!
Again, being serious again, if you or anybody else who already has the disc wants a printout of the complete list of indexed shots, here it is:
Thanks again.
Also your friend,
Dave
OK. I get the message now. People want a printout of the complete list of categories and shots to make it easier to navigate back to a particular shot via the disc menu. We should have included a printout with the disc. Again, here it is:
Thank you all for the lesson learned,
Dave
Dave
I believe Joe to be sincere with his undervalued remark and didn't even think it "fishy". Honestly, after viewing, $29.95 is a bargain. But what is the threshold for a first time buyer, probably $29.95 so it's a fair price. I think your advanced peak let us all know this is the real deal.
Paul
Thanks Paul. So to summarize, you also think the price is low for what you are getting (compared to other stuff on the market); but if the price were any higher, it might scare some people off. That's about what Tom and I thought also.
Thanks,
Dave
That's correct
OK, first I am going to send my reviewer's comments to Barnes and Noble
That will set a fire under your butt.For anyone who might think there was something "fishy" in my review I have a comment. As a prior text author and university professor I have reviewed several textbooks for publishers such as Prentice Hall and similar companies. These reviews are usually contracted before the book is published to address any scholarly, publishing and marketing concerns. The review I posted here is very similar (without a thorough review of content) for what would be written for a publisher. I posted it publically to encourage others and to show how one can tactfully praise and suggest improvements in one review. The idea is to help the author to improve their work. The review is honest but tactful and is of course intended to be helpful.
My hope is that this type of review can be seen as an example when we all review products by other people and thus make AZB a better place for all of us. BTW I note that most of the subsequent posts have been on topic and have also been helpful -- isn't that nice.
Note to Dave, this "second job" could actually do much for pool through making an excellent teaching system available that could affect the lives of many younger people. This could be a very real contribution to the pool world. You obviously have the skills needed to produce excellent materials and the necessary background in the pool world to understand the needs. Perhaps this needs some serious thought. It may not be as sexy as some of your engineering work but there is a real need and a very real potential contribution here.
As you probably know publishing companies often set up a divison for one or more of their product lines. Sometimes an external consultant is used to identify and help guide products to be developed. I think that your works (past and present) could be used to propose such a division to a publisher of your choice. This could be a second job that would be recognized and supported by your university. Again there are many possibilites here. BTW, I have "been there done that" and it is much easier than you might think to get a major publisher who has a track record in a related area to get interested in such a new division. They are always looking for ways to make money. Stick with major publishers as they have the resources (financial and otherwise) to under take a new product line.
Proposing a new division is not much different (just wider) than proposing a textbook. The textbook proposal forms available on many of the academic publisher web sites could be used to propose a new division. Let them take care of personnel, you only need to substantiate, need, content, audience, etc.
The alternative is to propose a company, but then you need financial backers etc. Been down that road too and it is horrible. The sharks in the water far exceed anything found in the pool world.
And for what it is worth, I would help but no major commitment. I am retired and lovin it. If you want more info PM me and I can provide additional details.
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Dave, you hit the shot well. Far better than your other video. Good job. Anything more than that would be gimmicky, imo. I learned something there. .4R -- never knew that.
See? I'll prop ya all day when you do well! I'm not a Dr. Dave hater.
Spidey
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Joe,
Thanks again for your thorough review that sets a good example for how others should evaluate products.
Also, thank you for your encouragement, ideas, and offer to help further.
Catch you later,
Dave
Thanks again for your thorough review that sets a good example for how others should evaluate products.
Also, thank you for your encouragement, ideas, and offer to help further.
Catch you later,
Dave
OK, first I am going to send my reviewer's comments to Barnes and Noble
For anyone who might think there was something "fishy" in my review I have a comment. As a prior text author and university professor I have reviewed several textbooks for publishers such as Prentice Hall and similar companies. These reviews are usually contracted before the book is published to address any scholarly, publishing and marketing concerns. The review I posted here is very similar (without a thorough review of content) for what would be written for a publisher. I posted it publically to encourage others and to show how one can tactfully praise and suggest improvements in one review. The idea is to help the author to improve their work. The review is honest but tactful and is of course intended to be helpful.
My hope is that this type of review can be seen as an example when we all review products by other people and thus make AZB a better place for all of us. BTW I note that most of the subsequent posts have been on topic and have also been helpful -- isn't that nice.
Note to Dave, this "second job" could actually do much for pool through making an excellent teaching system available that could affect the lives of many younger people. This could be a very real contribution to the pool world. You obviously have the skills needed to produce excellent materials and the necessary background in the pool world to understand the needs. Perhaps this needs some serious thought. It may not be as sexy as some of your engineering work but there is a real need and a very real potential contribution here.
As you probably know publishing companies often set up a divison for one or more of their product lines. Sometimes an external consultant is used to identify and help guide products to be developed. I think that your works (past and present) could be used to propose such a division to a publisher of your choice. This could be a second job that would be recognized and supported by your university. Again there are many possibilites here. BTW, I have "been there done that" and it is much easier than you might think to get a major publisher who has a track record in a related area to get interested in such a new division. They are always looking for ways to make money. Stick with major publishers as they have the resources (financial and otherwise) to under take a new product line.
Proposing a new division is not much different (just wider) than proposing a textbook. The textbook proposal forms available on many of the academic publisher web sites could be used to propose a new division. Let them take care of personnel, you only need to substantiate, need, content, audience, etc.
The alternative is to propose a company, but then you need financial backers etc. Been down that road too and it is horrible. The sharks in the water far exceed anything found in the pool world.
And for what it is worth, I would help but no major commitment. I am retired and lovin it. If you want more info PM me and I can provide additional details.
Thanks Spidey. I thought you might like the new video better. One of these days, I need to go back and re-film many of my other older videos that are not up to par. I plan to do this soon, now that the bulk of my VEPS effort is done.
Thanks Spidey. I feel the love.[See? I'll prop ya all day when you do well! I'm not a Dr. Dave hater.
Regards,
Dave
Disc II is now out
FYI, I just finished Disc II - English and Position Control. If you want to check out some demo clips, go here:
I've also posted the clips in the AZB Instructional Video page.
The posted clips cover the following topics:
Here's the complete list of shots included on Disc II, and here's the outline of the entire series. Disc II includes 1 hour and 39 minutes of video covering 184 shot types.
I hope you guys enjoy and learn from the clips. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments.
Regards,
Dave
FYI, I just finished Disc II - English and Position Control. If you want to check out some demo clips, go here:
I've also posted the clips in the AZB Instructional Video page.
The posted clips cover the following topics:
- squirt, swerve, throw introduction
- back-hand English and natural pivot length
- rail-first and ball-first rail cut shots with inside and outside English
- leaving an angle, and using English to come into the line of a shot
- center-of-table position and multiple-rail routes
- back-hand English and natural pivot length
- rail-first and ball-first rail cut shots with inside and outside English
- leaving an angle, and using English to come into the line of a shot
- center-of-table position and multiple-rail routes
Here's the complete list of shots included on Disc II, and here's the outline of the entire series. Disc II includes 1 hour and 39 minutes of video covering 184 shot types.
I hope you guys enjoy and learn from the clips. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments.
Regards,
Dave
Did anybody check out any of the video clips yet? What do you think?
I personally learned a lot from Tom concerning the center-of-the-table position route stuff. I didn't know that stuff until he showed me.
I think the ball-first vs. rail-first English rail-cut-shots stuff was discussed on AZB recently, so I thought some people would have some comments on that.
Was anybody surprised by anything in any of the clips?
Thanks,
Dave
I personally learned a lot from Tom concerning the center-of-the-table position route stuff. I didn't know that stuff until he showed me.
I think the ball-first vs. rail-first English rail-cut-shots stuff was discussed on AZB recently, so I thought some people would have some comments on that.
Was anybody surprised by anything in any of the clips?
Thanks,
Dave
I'm not sure if someone has already mentioned it yet, but for relatively shallow cut angles a player could use all four fingers of the hand: the index and middle fingers would define the cut angle, and then the player could spread the ring and pinky fingers so that the three Vs formed by the fingers are the same angle.
Spreading the fingers to create three equal angles might be tricky for some people; at very shallow angles I find it hard to keep my pinky still. For those of use with curvy or bent fingers it may be necessary to ignore the finger tip and instead sight from each knuckle to the first joint.
Another option--perhaps even weirder--would be to make two "peace sign" Vs by using both hands, then touching the hands together at the insides of the thumbs together, and then finally angling the hands away from each other until the V between the hands is the same angle as the V of each peace sign.
Either of these alternatives could prove clumsy in practice, but it could be helpful for some players to see the cut angle and the final cue ball direction at once.
This sounds fair to me. I've produced a DVD myself, so I have an understanding of the costs of production and editing as well as the cost of having a run of DVDs pressed, labeled, boxed, and wrapped.
Good luck with the sales, Dave!
Wow. Great stuff. I heard about the pivot point for BHE on here, but didn't want to mess up my "aim by feel" methods. But seeing it and how to find it is great. I can see using it on the break to be a big benefit.
I also really liked the position through the center of the table. I never heard that discussed before. Of course I always knew to play short when going 2 rails for position so you won't scratch, but using the center of the table as your guide is new to me.
Is there any way to send payment for all the series, and then you would ship them automatically as they become available? Any special rate for ordering the whole series?
I also really liked the position through the center of the table. I never heard that discussed before. Of course I always knew to play short when going 2 rails for position so you won't scratch, but using the center of the table as your guide is new to me.
Is there any way to send payment for all the series, and then you would ship them automatically as they become available? Any special rate for ordering the whole series?