Video evidence that Cyclop is garbage

itsfroze said:
Sure lou, there are far more threads about the Cyclop balls being bad,
even if you go back and take threads about the Centennials and Arimith balls
combined from a few years before the Cyclop balls even came out. The other
balls never had as many issues as these Cyclop balls have had.

You can spin it anyway you want the Cyclop balls just have more issues than the other top balls combined, by far.
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More threads? lol, I have a news flash for you: people were playing pool long before there even was an internet to post threads and there have always been problems with balls. Back when they were wood, ivory, clay, and then the phenolic resins. Why? Because it's hard to make a ball that's perfectly round and balanced.

Now there's the internet and a couple of nimrods make a whiney stink about whatever and it echoes and suddenly ohmygod! There's a whole lot of threads about THIS PROBLEM!

But really, it's just the two or three nimrods ;-)

Lou Figueroa
 
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itsfroze said:
Interesting how some always have something to say, lol. ;) ;) ;)


They didn't stop using the top of the line Arimith balls because
there was something wrong with them. They were good but, expensive.

They started using the Cyclop balls because they were cheaper.


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Not true, the change resulted because Aramith makes Centennial balls for Brunswick, a direct competitor to Diamond, that's why.
 
itsfroze said:
Good spin lou, but I was talking about Cyclop balls compared to the other two top brands over the last few years compared to Cyclop short lived nonsense.

Spin away troll.


On Busty's shot the cue ball rolls off at least half a diamond, but the Cyclop balls are fine.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ET8NTAZTk0s

Forward to 13:30
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Yes. It rolled off. Once again: 100% quality control is impossible.

But, there have been hundreds of matches, thousands of shots, where that did not happen and the balls rolled true.

Lou Figueroa
 
itsfroze said:
Interesting how some always have something to say, lol. ;) ;) ;)


They didn't stop using the top of the line Arimith balls because
there was something wrong with them. They were good but, expensive.

They started using the Cyclop balls because they were cheaper.
They got what they paid for, unfortunately it's the players that
get bent over as they are the ones that have to deal with the
inferior Cyclop balls on the table. They are cheaper and, not good.

Let's rag on the players some more, about how they should act professional
even if at the same time they are being told to play on/with equipment that is not.
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lol, once again you show you have little to no grasp of the actual facts.

The cost had nothing to do with it.

BTW, it's A-r-a-m-i-th.

Lou Figueroa
 
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I don't understand how in a whole match there appears to be one or two bad rolls and it means the cue ball is bad. Wouldn't a bad cue ball roll bad on just about every shot. Is there moving parts inside the cue ball or something? Maybe someone played a bad shot.
 
Tested with a ramp

In anticipation of receiving my "new to me" set of tournament used cyclop balls, I made a ramp of two cues tied together. I then set it on the rail and at a slope that caused my red circle cue ball to roll about 6 feet after dropping to the table bed.

I rolled the red circle down it multiple times and with the circle in different orientations. There was a variation of approximately 2 1/2" in the direction and length of the rolls. None of the variation could be attributed to the orientation of the red circle.

My set of Cyclop balls just arrived and I subject the cue ball to the same test and got identical results. No variation by orientation of the eye.

I also tried to find any raised edge on the eye. There is none. The cue ball is perfectly smooth and rolls as true as the red circle.

I am Happy as all get out with my new toys. At $150 plus $25 shipping, I think this investment will pay for itself the next time I play in a CSI event.:grin-square: Well I already paid for them with my winnings for first place in the Senior division of the Lincoln City Eight ball yesterday. The difference between 1st and 2nd was $165.:cool:

Great product and speedy delivery.:thumbup:
 
Greg Cantral

Thank you for an accurate factual and real report. I'm certain several of the naysayers will have something to say.

But as usual, they will be short on facts and logic. Soon their opinions will be irrelevant.

Mark Griffin
 
Hi Mark,

I have some experience dealing with consumer complaints, because I design consumer products for a living. That said, its often difficult to correlate a complaint with an actual defect. Hell, I've seen people return a product saying it didn't work, when the box was still sealed in its factory shrink-wrap.

With that said, can you let us know what, if any, measures are in place at the Cyclop manufacturer to control straightness of roll? You are right, facts are what is needed. The best place imo to get the facts is straight from the factory, not the consumer. Its difficult for the consumer to come up with a real test and even if they do, a consumer will only have one or two sets of balls to test. Its not statistically significant. If you were to share with us as fact, what the factory does, and its test results for a large sample of balls over multiple manufacturing lots, then we have something factual to look at.

Thank you,
Nick
 
itsfroze said:
That's nothing new ! You state this as something that recently happened, it's not.
They have been making the balls for Brunswick for a long time, now all of a sudden
it's a problem.

They were using Aramith made balls for a long time that there weren't issues with,
now they are using balls (Cyclop) there are issues with, bottom line.
If they weren't experiencing problems then there wouldn't be these videos and threads
about the Cyclop balls, like it or not, it's that simple.
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lol, once again, you show you have zero knowledge about what the facts are.

Good to see you finally got the spelling on Aramith right. A small step in the right direction.

Lou Figueroa
 
itsfroze said:
If they weren't experiencing problems then there wouldn't be these videos and threads
about the Cyclop balls, like it or not, it's that simple.
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Slow rolling a shot is always the last option, any number of things can cause a slow rolled shot to go off line.

The new balls are an easy target. No matter what level they play at, there are always some players that can not admit that they goofed. They blame the equipment.

I can understand a preference for one type of ball over another. That preference however does not mean that the other balls are garbage.
 
itsfroze said:
Your right on time lou, ha ha ha



If Cyclop balls were a quality product there wouldn't be the vids, and complaints.
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In today's world there will always be complaints about anything and everything.

In the "old days," when only smart people had computers, this was not so. Now every nimrod has access to the web and ignorance of the facts -- as in your case -- does not stop them from posting their drivel.

So, there's video of a ball rolling off. News flash: pool balls have been rolling off since the game was invented. Every pool player on earth (except you, apparently) has seen a ball roll off, long before the advent of the Cyclop balls. BUT now we have the internet and forums and streaming videos. That's the only thing that's new.

Lou Figueroa
 
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I'd have plenty of time for golf and snooker

itsfroze said:
They didn't stop using the top of the line Arimith balls because
there was something wrong with them. They were good but, expensive.

They started using the Cyclop balls because they were cheaper.
They got what they paid for, unfortunately it's the players that
get bent over as they are the ones that have to deal with the
inferior Cyclop balls on the table. They are cheaper and, not good.

Let's rag on the players some more, about how they should act professional
even if at the same time they are being told to play on/with equipment that is not.
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I agree, if presented the choice of playing with Cyclop balls every time, or stop playing pool forever, I'd have plenty of time for golf and snooker. ;) 'The Game is the Teacher'
 
Don't get lost with the facts

It's froze once again shown himself to be a 'lop sided' thinker.

I believe he had some 'issues' when I hired Ozzy - he used to play on Ozzy's pool tour- and is just someone who isn't happy unless he has something to complain about.

Usually I have some sympathy for individuals like him - but he has more than burned up his free pass card.

I firmly believe he is a nit of the highest order.
If he had all this proof of all these bad balls, I would have a room full of rejects. Guess what - I don't.

It's real simple - he can play in our events or he can ***** all he wants. There will come a time where he won't be doing both.

I am great for accepting constructive criticism - I don't want, nor will I accept someone whose goal in life is to be a troll.

Now- shut up or put up!!

Mark griffin
 
The practice of astroturfing a widely used form of propaganda

itsfroze said:
If Cyclop balls were a quality product there wouldn't be the vids, and complaints.
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The practice of astroturfing a widely used form of propaganda, as evidenced by the media coverage it receives.

The vids and complaints could be an indication of a problem and Mark has invited any with problem balls to send them to him so he can ascertain if there is indeed a problem.

Astroturfing or propaganda is also a possible answer to why all of the complaints.
 
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