Videos of Members Playing the Ghost??
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Nope. I only play 4 ball
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TheThaiger
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Jesus Neil, get a damn grip. Personal attacks? Wasn't it you complaining about people driving pros away a while ago? Cj is a pita at times but his views deserve some respect.
Nobody watches 9 ball, in case you hadn't noticed.
the competition at "The Derby" is tougher than a weekly tournament in Hurst Texas
Are you saying that the competition at "The Derby" is tougher than a weekly tournament in Hurst Texas? That's amazing, are you sure, or have you been to a tournament in Texas to make an accurate comparison?
Are you saying that the competition at "The Derby" is tougher than a weekly tournament in Hurst Texas? That's amazing, are you sure, or have you been to a tournament in Texas to make an accurate comparison?
I very rarely play 9 ball so last night I was going to try using my phone to record just for this. My phone dies but I continue to shoot 9 ball. I have never had any one approach me to play a game before while playing 8. Of course my first night out shooting 9 ball I get an offer for a race to 5 for a whopping 5 dollars. I did lose 4-5 but if I'm going to actually find people willing to shoot games with a stranger I'm going to stick with 9 ball a bit more on practice days.
I'm still hoping to get a video up sometime within the next week so you can all laugh at me.
Nice shooting from all the videos posted so far. I love watching people from the forum shoot when I can't get on a table and I've watched every video in the thread so far.
I'm still hoping to get a video up sometime within the next week so you can all laugh at me.
Nice shooting from all the videos posted so far. I love watching people from the forum shoot when I can't get on a table and I've watched every video in the thread so far.
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No offense but 2 separated racks did not mean you beat the 15-ball ghost.
I believe all of us would love to see uncut video of you beating the 15-ball ghost. That will be a real treat. :smile:
A champion player using a magic rack is like Barry Bonds playing "Tee Ball"
What does it equalize? Have you ever used one, it turns the game into "tick-tac-to"
When each player can hit the rack like a "spot shot" and make the corner ball it's an equalizer. All champions agree with me that it's an equalizer, if you can find one that doesn't please let him voice his opinion for professional debate.
Running 6 racks with the magic rack is not a big deal. There's literally thousands of people that can and it's boring.
A champion player using a magic rack is like Barry Bonds playing "Tee Ball" :groucho:
What does it equalize? Have you ever used one, it turns the game into "tick-tac-to"
When each player can hit the rack like a "spot shot" and make the corner ball it's an equalizer. All champions agree with me that it's an equalizer, if you can find one that doesn't please let him voice his opinion for professional debate.
Running 6 racks with the magic rack is not a big deal. There's literally thousands of people that can and it's boring.
A champion player using a magic rack is like Barry Bonds playing "Tee Ball" :groucho:
about as good as the game can be played.
I don't believe anyone can beat the "15 Ball Ghost" over an extended time - I have beaten the 14 ball ghost on several occasions. This is about as good as the game can be played.
I don't believe anyone can beat the "15 Ball Ghost" over an extended time - I have beaten the 14 ball ghost on several occasions. This is about as good as the game can be played.
That's quite true.
I heard in a TAR interview with Ronnie Alcano when he said the young Efren was the only one he's ever witnessed/known beating the 15-ball ghost. I think we can believe him.
It's okay if you don't, gamble, teach or even play pool - just don't knock the game
Since when is asking someone if they play pool competitively a "personal attack".
It's okay if you don't, gamble, teach or even play pool - just don't get on a pool forum and discourage others from playing, teaching or gambling, it's not proper etiquette.
Since when is asking someone if they play pool competitively a "personal attack".
It's okay if you don't, gamble, teach or even play pool - just don't get on a pool forum and discourage others from playing, teaching or gambling, it's not proper etiquette.
it's impossible so there's no reason to get excited.
Efren may have done it, but they only play to 61 points, instead of clearing the entire table. It's not possible for anyone to beat the 15 ball ghost, if they could they would win Texas. My associates here would bet anyone 10k - 20k a game starting out, if they believe they can win.....of course it's impossible so there's no reason to get excited.
It's not possible on a table with worn cloth because balls tie up and make it impossible. I've played the ghost under many different conditions. The best place to play it is on a 10' table, you'd think it would be harder and it's actually easier in some ways (the balls don't hardly ever tie up).
Efren may have done it, but they only play to 61 points, instead of clearing the entire table. It's not possible for anyone to beat the 15 ball ghost, if they could they would win Texas. My associates here would bet anyone 10k - 20k a game starting out, if they believe they can win.....of course it's impossible so there's no reason to get excited.
It's not possible on a table with worn cloth because balls tie up and make it impossible. I've played the ghost under many different conditions. The best place to play it is on a 10' table, you'd think it would be harder and it's actually easier in some ways (the balls don't hardly ever tie up).
Looking at the rack before you break is like looking at the top of the deck
You are making some incorrect statements.
1) The "first three balls" being tight is not as important as you think. Actually it's better if they're separated slightly to make the corner ball.
2) A "tight rack" may not be the best rack to make balls. Certain "gaps" need to be present on some tables to make the corner ball....on new cloth it seldom matters.
3) Looking at the rack before you break is like looking at the top of the deck playing poker.....it gives the player that knows what he's looking for a HUGE advantage.
If you wonder about my references I'll tell you in two words - JOE TUCKER
Google his name if you don't know who he is.
You are making some incorrect statements.
1) The "first three balls" being tight is not as important as you think. Actually it's better if they're separated slightly to make the corner ball.
2) A "tight rack" may not be the best rack to make balls. Certain "gaps" need to be present on some tables to make the corner ball....on new cloth it seldom matters.
3) Looking at the rack before you break is like looking at the top of the deck playing poker.....it gives the player that knows what he's looking for a HUGE advantage.
If you wonder about my references I'll tell you in two words - JOE TUCKER
Google his name if you don't know who he is.
You are making some incorrect statements.
1) The "first three balls" being tight is not as important as you think. Actually it's better if they're separated slightly to make the corner ball.
2) A "tight rack" may not be the best rack to make balls. Certain "gaps" need to be present on some tables to make the corner ball....on new cloth it seldom matters.
3) Looking at the rack before you break is like looking at the top of the deck playing poker.....it gives the player that knows what he's looking for a HUGE advantage.
If you wonder about my references I'll tell you in two words - JOE TUCKER
Google his name if you don't know who he is.
Would you agree that pro players in the 90's didn't worry as much about the rack as they do today? If so, why is that? Because I know players have known forever about basic pattern racking. Mike Sigel talked about this in one of his Nine Ball Videos back then.
My hunch was players were more accepting of the randomness of the spread of the balls. I think this made for a more interesting game but it only took one person to spoil it for everybody. I think we all know who that was.
Oh well....back to the thread.
Later
I guess if you tell your lies often enough, some people will believe them. Pretty sad, though, when all you ever have for rebuttals is lies. I'm done responding to your nonsense in this thread. All you want to do is derail it and make it all about you. Just like your phony 15 ball ghost video that you got busted on. I'm not going to be a participant in you ruining another thread. Adios.
the rack, it's always created unwanted/unneeded anxiety in pool players.
We worried about the rack, it's always created unwanted/unneeded anxiety in pool players. Our number one goal at tournaments was to "stop the corner ball," and we usually "fixed" the tables so the corner ball WOULD NOT GO......these days, they are wiring the corner ball to go every time......this is just from lack of proper supervision. There's little chance Nick Varner, Buddy Hall, Allen Hopkins, Earl Strickland, Johnny Archer, etc. would have allowed "wiring the corner ball"....it would ruin the game and they knew it!!!
We just had an unwritten rule that we accepted the referee's rack, looking at it would be like looking at another poker player's cards.....it's legal, just tacky. In the semi finals and finals there's no excuse to not have a referee racking the balls. There's plenty of pool enthusiasts that would jump at the chance to help this situation and rack fairly.
Let's face it, the racking and breaking is out of sync with the rest of the game. This is clearly (to me anyway) a detrimental factor that must be eliminated for the game to prosper.
The game of pool is a beautiful way to statically battle another human being. For competitors this is ideal because there's less chance of injury than actually fighting.
The current rules of "one foul" take 90% of the strategic possibilities OUT of the game. And we wonder why so few want to watch, it's tough for me to sit through an entire game unless there's a challenging situation the player is facing.
We worried about the rack, it's always created unwanted/unneeded anxiety in pool players. Our number one goal at tournaments was to "stop the corner ball," and we usually "fixed" the tables so the corner ball WOULD NOT GO......these days, they are wiring the corner ball to go every time......this is just from lack of proper supervision. There's little chance Nick Varner, Buddy Hall, Allen Hopkins, Earl Strickland, Johnny Archer, etc. would have allowed "wiring the corner ball"....it would ruin the game and they knew it!!!
We just had an unwritten rule that we accepted the referee's rack, looking at it would be like looking at another poker player's cards.....it's legal, just tacky. In the semi finals and finals there's no excuse to not have a referee racking the balls. There's plenty of pool enthusiasts that would jump at the chance to help this situation and rack fairly.
Let's face it, the racking and breaking is out of sync with the rest of the game. This is clearly (to me anyway) a detrimental factor that must be eliminated for the game to prosper.
The game of pool is a beautiful way to statically battle another human being. For competitors this is ideal because there's less chance of injury than actually fighting.
The current rules of "one foul" take 90% of the strategic possibilities OUT of the game. And we wonder why so few want to watch, it's tough for me to sit through an entire game unless there's a challenging situation the player is facing.
.......anyways does anyone else have any different ideas on how to make something like this work. I think there have been a lot of excellent suggestions so far. I don't think the nine should count on the break at all though.
What does it equalize? Have you ever used one, it turns the game into "tick-tac-to"
When each player can hit the rack like a "spot shot" and make the corner ball it's an equalizer. All champions agree with me that it's an equalizer, if you can find one that doesn't please let him voice his opinion for professional debate.
Running 6 racks with the magic rack is not a big deal. There's literally thousands of people that can and it's boring.
A champion player using a magic rack is like Barry Bonds playing "Tee Ball" :groucho:
Ok I seriously think you've gone off the deep end. Delusional as always CJ. Where are these thousands of players that run 6 packs? I've used magic racks before, and unless you're also pattern racking, it is not "tick-tac-to". Break slightly too hard or too soft and you have very difficult routes. It's about time you stop blaming your short comings on the table on the magic rack. And plus, no matter how many times you spout that "all champions agree with me" doesn't make it true. You would surprised at how many high level players don't conform to your way of thinking. Stop trying to make yourself out to be the grand master you dream of being and actually go out there and do it.
if "all champions agree" it does make it true.....haven't you read the manual?
You don't have to pattern rack to run 6 racks with a magic rack. When you make a dead ball in the corner every time it's pretty easy. There's 12 year old kids that could accomplish this in a relatively short amount of time.
Actually if "all champions agree" it does make it true.....haven't you read the manual?
You don't have to pattern rack to run 6 racks with a magic rack. When you make a dead ball in the corner every time it's pretty easy. There's 12 year old kids that could accomplish this in a relatively short amount of time.
Actually if "all champions agree" it does make it true.....haven't you read the manual?
a pocket billiard forum....just doesn't get any better than this.
Aren't you just a burst of sunshine. :angel: It's refreshing to be called a liar by an anonymous poster on a pocket billiard forum....just doesn't get any better than this.
I'm obviously back in the game, and going to continue to be for the foreseeable future. Doing something positive for the game is a personal, not public challenge.
Aren't you just a burst of sunshine. :angel: It's refreshing to be called a liar by an anonymous poster on a pocket billiard forum....just doesn't get any better than this.
I'm obviously back in the game, and going to continue to be for the foreseeable future. Doing something positive for the game is a personal, not public challenge.
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