weight bolts in custom cues ?

justabrake said:
what custom cue makers have weight bolts in there cues?

Steven

I thought most custom cues don't have weight bolts. From what I hear if you change the weight bolt it drastically changes the hit of the cue.
 
justabrake said:
what custom cue makers have weight bolts in there cues?

Steven

they all do, unless they're making an 18oz cue. but i think if you asked, they could put together a heavy without a weight bolt.

i wonder if butterfly splices are more condusive to distributing balance throughout the cue without a bolt?
 
LastTwo said:
I thought most custom cues don't have weight bolts. From what I hear if you change the weight bolt it drastically changes the hit of the cue.

100% true. up the weight w/ a bolt and you might not even know it is the same cue. but that might be the goal...
 
LastTwo said:
From what I hear if you change the weight bolt it drastically changes the hit of the cue.


Don't believe that unless it goes from one extreme to another. Besides, the change could even be more to your liking.
 
My cue was 20 oz with the weight bolt, 19 without (heavier cocobola). I had my cuesmith cut off part of the weight bolt yesterday to get it down to 19.4, but the part he cut off can be screwed back in - I would recommend this just in case you don't like the lighter hit or decide to sell it.

You can also test first without the butt-cap - that's probably 1/2 ounce?
 
I know Mike Bender's cues have a weight bolt system, where you can increment the weight of cue by 1/8 (i think) of an once at time... Ive never done it before but its there...
 
Many cuemakers

that are making per your specifications will glue
the weight bolt in so it will not come loose and
rattle unless you tell them that you might change
the weight of it later.
 
wrong

bruin70 said:
they all do, unless they're making an 18oz cue. but i think if you asked, they could put together a heavy without a weight bolt.

i wonder if butterfly splices are more condusive to distributing balance throughout the cue without a bolt?
Bruin,
I do not use weight bolts. If you have a weight bolt system, and you change weight bolts, you make the cue have a differant balance point than it's designed for.It will not proform as designed.
Some cuemakers don't care what happens to the proformance of there cues.
So, therefore, they use bolts. There just after the cash, and care not how the cue plays. Believe me there's plenty who don't give a crap.
I weight and balance my cues with the woods being used.Now that's a true custom cue.
blud
 
I have several custom cues with weight bolts...Scruggs, Frey, Phillippi...

I have some that don't...SW, Blud, Bluegrass, Gilbert
 
blud said:
Bruin,
I do not use weight bolts. If you have a weight bolt system, and you change weight bolts, you make the cue have a differant balance point than it's designed for.It will not proform as designed.
Some cuemakers don't care what happens to the proformance of there cues.
So, therefore, they use bolts. There just after the cash, and care not how the cue plays. Believe me there's plenty who don't give a crap.
I weight and balance my cues with the woods being used.Now that's a true custom cue.
blud
That's interesting - any cuemaker who uses a bolt doesn't care how their cues play? Any other custom cuemakers feel this way?
 
bruin70 said:
they all do, unless they're making an 18oz cue. but i think if you asked, they could put together a heavy without a weight bolt.

i wonder if butterfly splices are more condusive to distributing balance throughout the cue without a bolt?

I had a Schon that origonally was just over 20oz....No weight bolt...What looked like a weight bolt in the cue was actually a assembly screw...(Per Evan)....The screw was only two tenths of one ounce.

I also asked him what the standard butt size is on Schon cues...(the one I had was slightly thicker than most Schon cues)...He said that the diameter of the butt is determined by what weight they are trying to achieve.....The particular LTD that I had was made to be 20oz.

I am not a cue maker...but from what I hear, ebony wood will increase the cue weight as much as ivory inlays...I think those combinations if placed in the right spots can be a very effective way of balancing a cue.....(just a guess)
 
blud said:
Bruin,
I do not use weight bolts. If you have a weight bolt system, and you change weight bolts, you make the cue have a differant balance point than it's designed for.It will not proform as designed.
Some cuemakers don't care what happens to the proformance of there cues.
So, therefore, they use bolts. There just after the cash, and care not how the cue plays. Believe me there's plenty who don't give a crap.
I weight and balance my cues with the woods being used.Now that's a true custom cue.
blud

Blud, with all due respect, I don't think that most reputable cuemakers don't care about how their cues hit. On the contrary, most that I have dealt with are fanatical about the hit of their cues and want the customer to be pleased with it. Many fine cuemakers use weight bolts. Many fine cuemakers do not use weight bolts. Many fine cuemakers use weight bolts some of the time depending on the weight of the cue they're building and the woods and joint combination. I would imagine that in some combinations a weight bolt would be desirable to balance out a cue using a steel or other heavy joint material. Changing the subject a little, we have met on several occasions at tournaments in TX and at the BCA shows. One instance in particular comes to mind, a tournament at Top Cats in San Marcos many years ago. You were doing repairs, the place was like a hustlers convention. UJ was there, Handsome Danny, Buddy, Gilbert M, David H. Do you still make those tips like you did back then?
 
blud said:
Bruin,
I do not use weight bolts. If you have a weight bolt system, and you change weight bolts, you make the cue have a differant balance point than it's designed for.It will not proform as designed.
Some cuemakers don't care what happens to the proformance of there cues.
So, therefore, they use bolts. There just after the cash, and care not how the cue plays. Believe me there's plenty who don't give a crap.
I weight and balance my cues with the woods being used.Now that's a true custom cue.
blud

Please...what a load of crap..
 
With due respect Blud, you use your pin/joint screw to connect your forearm to the handle.
I call that a weight bolt too even if it's not a 3/8 16 or 3/8 10 stud.
 
blud said:
Bruin,
I do not use weight bolts. If you have a weight bolt system, and you change weight bolts, you make the cue have a differant balance point than it's designed for.It will not proform as designed.
Some cuemakers don't care what happens to the proformance of there cues.
So, therefore, they use bolts. There just after the cash, and care not how the cue plays. Believe me there's plenty who don't give a crap.
I weight and balance my cues with the woods being used.Now that's a true custom cue.
blud

i know there are some players who are very sensitive to any metal in their cue(i can't tell).. but every cue i've ever owned had a weight bolt in it. peterson, joss west, tad, SW.

i don't consider a no-weightbolt cue to be more custom than one that is not. it is not a defining charactersitic.
 
My Jensen didn't have a weight bolt in it at all. I wanted it to be a bit heavier, so I sent it back to Mike Johnson. He put a weight bolt in it (and a few other things I had requested), and I got it back in a week. It had the exact same characteristics that it did prior to, and I love it....
 
coastydad said:
Thanks Eric, I was just trying to keep it a little civil.

You know whats really pisses me off... Noone jumps on blud when he makes a blanket statement like that saying
blud said:
Some cuemakers don't care what happens to the proformance of there cues.
So, therefore, they use bolts. There just after the cash, and care not how the cue plays.

To me that statement is bashing other cue makers.. 2 weeks ago when Shorty made that thread about bluds cue being not hot, everyone jumped on Shorty.. So its ok for blud to bash other cue makers while consumers like us are not allowed to voice our opinion about his cues.... Seems like blud likes to think that he is the best in the business....Puhleeeze...
 
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