So who has more experience and years of playing pool...Tyler & Landon or you?
What aiming system does Tyler Skyler use?
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Pros often miss for the same reasons we miss. It could be nerves, lack of focus, or simply inaccurate aiming. Most of the misses I see are due to miss-hitting the cb because they're jacked up over a ball or shooting off the rail.
Here's a 100% no-guesswork aiming tip on balls near center table, and it works on any ball that's sitting on the line between the side pockets (within a diamond or so of center table). Line the cb up to shoot the ob straight into the center diamond on the end rail, making sure the cb is at least about 10" or more from the ob.
From this setup the ob can be pocketed in either corner pocket using a simple halfball aim using a rolling cb or shooting with draw. If you miss the shot it's because of faulty alignment or poor stroke delivery, because the aim line is 100% known. Oh, and that's what Poolology is all about.
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At least not as heavily. There's the front door and the back door.
That doesn't do any good at all if it isn't linked up with the correct spot on the CB. The shaft or cue line can also be skewed and still get where it needs to be.
Experience yes. Feel has no, none, zero way of knowing or teaching it. Can feel be transferred or taught? NO!
But VISUALS and seeing with the EYES can. You don't have to "feel" it if you can SEE it.
Lol....that proves my point. I have more years of playing pool, but these players have more experience shooting balls. I've played a lot of pool in 35+ years, but I've never been a full-time pool player - too many other interests and responsibilities.
Feel is a product of experience. Knowing when you are lined up in accordance with what you're seeing is FEEL. In the beginning you might feel lined up correctly with what you're seeing, but when you miss the shot your mind says, "damn, I felt like I was dead on!". Eventually, through experience, that feeling gets more accurate. You get better at knowing/recognizing/feeling when your body and cue are lined up appropriately with what you're seeing.
OK, so far so good.
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So what is your point? Doesn't that apply to all valid and practiced aiming systems and reasons for missing. The problem starts with getting the proper aim between the two balls anywhere and everywhere on the table. They can all be "dead shots" or "guess shots".
Not the way you lead everybody to believe as one of the "top" authorities for everything pool. You even put out your own aiming system. They have more experience shooting balls the correct way with very well-developed strokes. You have in fact spent more table time than both of them have.
Here's a few good questions pertaining to aiming, spin, speed....
How do you know when your body and/or cue is aligned with what you're seeing?
How do you know how much spin to use?
How do you know how much speed to use?
The answer is the same for all three questions: FEEL
Experience gives us a a good sense of knowing (feel) when we're lined up correctly. And it gives us a good sense (feel) of how much spin and speed is needed.
How do you know when your body and/or cue is aligned with what you're seeing?
How do you know how much spin to use?
How do you know how much speed to use?
The answer is the same for all three questions: FEEL
Experience gives us a a good sense of knowing (feel) when we're lined up correctly. And it gives us a good sense (feel) of how much spin and speed is needed.
See appropriate video in Stan Shuffett's "Truth Series". It's clearly illustrated and verbalized.
This would be experience. Lot of different reasons but basically to set yourself up for remaining balls on the table so you DON'T have to use spin on each of them. Preplan the angles.
The next shot or the next few shots to get in line for them from experience and knowing the angles for what kind of spin you "may" need, if any.
For performing the STROKE it's feel from experience but not something involving aiming.
Nope! It's the eyes that tell us that. If you can see the center and edge and know where they should be for any given shot and then do it, you don't need feel or guesswork. It's either there or it isn't there. You don't seem to get this nor does the rag tag gang holdouts from 25 years ago.
Spin and speed is feel, or touch.
That's unlikely. I wouldn't call a few hours a week for 37 years MORE table time. Doing the math, 37 years of playing about 10 hours per week comes to 19,240 hours of table time. Many of those hours I was young and dumb and just drinking it up and having fun. Many weeks I didn't play at all. Other weeks I might've played 2 hours or 15 hours. Definitely not always quailty table time.
Now let's look a kid who starts when he's 5 or 6 years old, taking lessons from a pro. For starters, that's the prime age for developing fine motor skills - the most opportune time for the mind to learn. I would guess the kid might practice anywhere from 10 to 20 hours per week. That's not uncommon, about 2 to 3 hours a day. If the kid sticks with it, he or she will have 15,000 hours or more of quality table time before they hit 20 years old.
The key to professional experience isn't table time....it's QUALITY table time. And it sure helps if you can get started at a young age when the mind is wide open for skill development.
You DO have a table at home.
Not many start that young. They can't even reach the table without standing on something.
Agreed, but applies to everyone. If one is learning incorrect habits, fundamentals and form, it's hard to break.
And hand/eye coordination.
I've had a home table since 1998. Prior to that, it was strictly bar room pool on weekends, and that was if the band wasn't on the road. Married life throws a few kinks into the mix also. A 25yr old family man with a real job and plenty of side projects is at a huge disadvantage when it comes to putting in quality table time, especially compared to any 7 year old taking professional lessons. And many pros started playing between 7 and 10 years old.
What would it be if he lines up the contact point?
Like I said before, I think pros use all the aiming knowledge/tools they can. So a CTE player can certainly use the contact points on occassion if that's what they want to do on certain shots.
Blame cookie. He uses the pocket to confirm that the shot is "good" and calls that CTE. Pardon us for being confused.
There's nothing that says you should have blinders on regarding a pocket. None of us started off playing pool with CTE because no one knew about it. Looking at the pocket was ingrained and part of the aiming process which revolved around contact points, or GB. Old habits die hard.
It's like being married and not seeing or not looking at a smokin' young hottie or any age women that's got it. You just can't stop.
More twisting from Innocent Dan. I said the shot looks good when the perception looks good. In fact they should both look good. The perception comes first, LOOKING GOOD, then you can pick up the whole shot picture starting with perception and factoring the pocket for any adjustments you would like to make for spin, table conditions and what not. Just another embarrassing post from you Dan.
This is your MO Constantly trying to take a cter's post out of context in the hopes of proving something wrong about cte.
CENTER POCKET MUSIC BABY, how sweet it is.
You don't need to apologize for being confused, it's kinda expected, lol.
Is the contact point reference in the book or any video ?
No, and it's been explained to you on multiple occasions as to why a CTE player might look at a contact point.
Do you ever think you will ever get over the fact that Efren and Hal had conversations about aiming.