What do you think holds most players back ?

Semantics.

Call it natural aptitude.

I know everyone likes to dream that if they had put in the effort and time that they all could have been Johnny Archer, it is simply not the reality though, most people never had a chance. People who truly excel at a sport and get to that top 0.00001% of the people who partake in that sport have a natural aptitude towards that sport that most other people do not have.

Does anyone out there think that every guy in the NBA could be Michael Jordan if they just worked harder at the game? Of course not.

Yes Again, height is God given gift, Mike at 6'-6" and Lebron James is at 6'-8" and is very much needed in basketball. I think Lebron is better than Mike..
What is the special ability you need in pool to be good other than 100% dedication to the game, of course healthy body, and eye sight.
 
Please define natural ability ? what is it in your opinion required to have that natural ability other than have nothing in life but pool, sleeping on pool tables, eating in pool halls, no social life, no jobs, no money, on the road all the time, is that natural ability?

Why so bitter? Sounds a little envious to me. I am college educated, fairly successful by common standards, and no more fun have I had than times on the road. Story....

Tony Watson is playing a doctor in Charlotte, giving him the last five. T is nutting him. He proceeds to proclaim how T has nothing compared to him. T 's answer?

"*****, I am 1500 up. I am gonna go check into a hotel, call a new chick, get ****ed up, and then **** her crazy. Then, I'm gonna sleep til 3. Then, gonna come back here and do it all over. You are gonna go home to that big mortgage, **** the same ol' ass, if she says yes, and then get up early for work. Now, you want the last six?!"


Take that!
 
Why so bitter? Sounds a little envious to me. I am college educated, fairly successful by common standards, and no more fun have I had than times on the road. Story....

Tony Watson is playing a doctor in Charlotte, giving him the last five. T is nutting him. He proceeds to proclaim how T has nothing compared to him. T 's answer?

"*****, I am 1500 up. I am gonna go check into a hotel, call a new chick, get ****ed up, and then **** her crazy. Then, I'm gonna sleep til 3. Then, gonna come back here and do it all over. You are gonna go home to that big mortgage, **** the same ol' ass, if she says yes, and then get up early for work. Now, you want the last six?!"


Take that!

Tony Watson is my new favorite player.
 
Yes Again, height is God given gift, Mike at 6'-6" and Lebron James is at 6'-8" and is very much needed in basketball. I think Lebron is better than Mike..
What is the special ability you need in pool to be good other than 100% dedication to the game, of course healthy body, and eye sight.

Mr. Naji,

Some people have a natural ability to do things & that includes confidence in themselves that they can do whatever it is.

Others do not have the 'natural' ability to do things & therefore lack confidence in themselves. Some of these people can do the same things that the ones with the natural ability can, but it takes them working at it to develope the skill to do those things & then practice to garner a level of success that builds confidence in themselves.

In the end, when you match them up, I'll bet on the one with 'heart'.
'Heart' too, can be a gift or it can be aquired.

There are those with natural ability that fail & never make it. No heart.

There are those with little to no natural ability & succeed beyond compare, they are called 'Gamers'. 'Heart' in ship loads.

The world's history is filled with people of natural ability that failed & also filled with over achievers on a grand scale.

It's simply not black or white. Natural talent or faiure.

The human body, brain, mind & 'heart' are simply amazing.

Dreams, determination & a host of intangibles can yield amazing results.

When Earl Strickland was 16 years old he practiced 16 hours a day & slept 8 everyday. Is he a natural talent or a 16 year old boy who simply knew what he wanted & grabbed it by the tail?:wink:

Best Regards,
 
You still need guidance and resources. You could have a lot of natural ability, a full plate of the D's previously mentioned and work at the game all you want but I don't think you can shorten the learning curve fast enough unless you have the right mentor and the money to allow your development.

The mentor can really help guide a players development, shield them from some of the more cut-throat practices at many poolrooms, and teach them how to be successfull. The money obviously will afford the developing player practice time, self-confidence, and be able to play in the types of gambling games needed to improve more rapidly.
 
You still need guidance and resources. You could have a lot of natural ability, a full plate of the D's previously mentioned and work at the game all you want but I don't think you can shorten the learning curve fast enough unless you have the right mentor and the money to allow your development.

The mentor can really help guide a players development, shield them from some of the more cut-throat practices at many poolrooms, and teach them how to be successfull. The money obviously will afford the developing player practice time, self-confidence, and be able to play in the types of gambling games needed to improve more rapidly.


What he said!!!
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.
 
What he said!!!
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.

I'm with that, also. I think it's very probable that Earl and Tony Watson were both born with talent and driven to get better on their own personal levels from what I've heard of both of them. I've read posts here recently saying there are some great players who never took a lesson. That's true but most of those players still watched other good players and learned from watching and experimenting with what they saw. I've seen other posts by people claiming to be their own best teachers but their posts also show just how much they don't know. I think most players have mentors of some sort or people that they strive to emulate.
 
There are two players in Calgary I know that shoot more then anyone else in the city. They are good but there are alot of players who are alot better who never put even close to the same amount of time into the game. Dedication might close the gap between a person with natural talent and one with dedication, but the guy who has both is the only one with a chance to be truly great.
 
Complacency. Everyone has a comfort level, and some sort of mental concept of how good they want to play (better than the average guy, better than their buddies, maybe better than anyone else in the pool room).

Once they reach that point, they're comfortable and almost nothing will dig them out of that 'comfort trench'.

Before that point, most people can find the time. After that point, it's "well, it's been fun boys but I got work in the morning" or "yeah, my woman's been on my case, I'm staying in" or "I used to go out and practice alone but now I just get bored".
 
Complacency. Everyone has a comfort level, and some sort of mental concept of how good they want to play (better than the average guy, better than their buddies, maybe better than anyone else in the pool room).

Once they reach that point, they're comfortable and almost nothing will dig them out of that 'comfort trench'.

Before that point, most people can find the time. After that point, it's "well, it's been fun boys but I got work in the morning" or "yeah, my woman's been on my case, I'm staying in" or "I used to go out and practice alone but now I just get bored".

Now this I agree with but as to your previous post....not quite so much.

I've never dreamed of being another Johnny Archer (I doubt many others have) and there aren't many people in the NBA that worked as hard at their game as Michael Jordan worked at his game.
 
Why so bitter? Sounds a little envious to me. I am college educated, fairly successful by common standards, and no more fun have I had than times on the road. Story....

Tony Watson is playing a doctor in Charlotte, giving him the last five. T is nutting him. He proceeds to proclaim how T has nothing compared to him. T 's answer?

"*****, I am 1500 up. I am gonna go check into a hotel, call a new chick, get ****ed up, and then **** her crazy. Then, I'm gonna sleep til 3. Then, gonna come back here and do it all over. You are gonna go home to that big mortgage, **** the same ol' ass, if she says yes, and then get up early for work. Now, you want the last six?!"


Take that!

Now that was funny!
 
Jordan, Cut?

If he tried out for the team & did not make the team, then he was cut. One can 'spin' it any way one wants. Michael himself says he was cut. The coach picked at least two(2) probably more guards than Jordon. If the coach thought he could have helped the team win, believe me he would not have cut him, he would have found a place for him on that team. Who knows, Jordon could have gotten mad & left that school for another one. I don't think the coach would have risked that if he truly thought he was ready for his varsity team.

He was cut & relegated to the junior squad. There are many 15 year olds playing on varsity squads all over the country.

Just my $0.02

Regards,
 
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