What happened to Robb Saez?

My dad always told me that it is the guy that doesn't ask your permission to kick your ass that you have to watch out for.
 
JAM said:
I guess there's three sides to the story. On-scene eyewitnesses say one party quit winner in a gambling match, left, and then came back inside to gloat about quitting winner.
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I was there. They gambled while drunk and Robb was running his mouth all night talking shit and calling Shane names.. Shane got sick of it and they went at it twice.
The problem with broke pros..

Needless to say, it was annoying as **** especially when I was in action myself.
 
JAM said:
I understand your thoughts about the pool room owners being responsible for the environment inside their business establishment.

My experience, however, has been that gambling and alcohol have never been a good mixture. When I used to go on the road to play pool with a road agent, he never wanted to go to the bars seeking action. He wanted to go to the pool rooms. Me, on the other hand, I loved going to the bars, but I was a drinker back then.

After experiencing pool in pool rooms where no alcohol is served, I prefer these rooms more so than those that serve alcohol. The atmosphere is very different, and it's more centered on pool playing, sweating the games, playing the game, et cetera. :)

With all of the above said, some people should not drink alcohol. I am one of those people, by my own admission. Some people can drink alcohol with no side effects, like sudden bursts of emotion, whether it be anger, silliness, or crying.

Whatever happened to Robb, I am guessing that that it may not have happened if there was no alcohol involved.
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JAM - I have put on 39 events with more alcohol consumption with a much larger group of people than any pool tournament/pool room than you could ever imagine. Not one incident ever. Sometimes it is simply the person and not the product of the atmosphere they are in. That is where the responsibility lies.
 
jam said:
i have never liked pool rooms that serve alcohol -- for this very reason.

Unfortunately, here in the states, pool rooms that sell pool alone cannot make ends meet. Instead, they are bars, sports bars with loud music, and food.
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hogwash.

Poppeycock.

Nonsense.
 
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JAM said:
You have had good fortune in that regard.

My experience has been alcohol and gambling never mix. I"m not talking about events or tournaments. I"m talking about people putting up their dough and betting on it, whether it's a player or a stakehorse or a railbird.

In fact, I can recall Cooney's girlfriend getting shot at Golden Cue in Bladensburg, Maryland, when Cooney was gambling there, as one example.

I had a gun pulled on me in Dalton, Georgia, when I was on the road with a gambler inside a bar.

When people drink, they sometimes don't use common sense or sound judgment when they are gambling. Most people I know today, with the exception of one person, prefer not to gamble when drinking. :grin:

If you go to a pool tournament, the majority of competitors are drinking water or soda.
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Well this incident happened at an event/tournament. And at my tournaments, there is tons of gambling. More than most pool tournaments I go to.

All that being said, I don't know exactly what happened here with Robb but just what I read here and others have told me. From all of it, I can only make one assumption and that is Robb had to be in the wrong. This is because Shane was allowed to finish the tournament. Surely he wasn't the instigator and then still allowed by the pool room owner/tournament organizer to continue in the event. That would set a bad precedent. :confused:
 
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JAM said:
I guess it depends on who you talk to. I wasn't there. That's for sure.

One school of thought is that one of the parties was gloating or taunting the other one. I have heard several people who were on site defending both parties, saying it was the other guy's fault. Again, I was not there, so I can't offer an opinion on that.

With that said, I don't think anyone should have their face broken over a pool gambling match. This is serious and could be a permanent injury to Robb Saez.

I do agree with one of the posters earlier in the thread who said the owner of the venue or tournament director should have tried to prevent this from escalating, if possible. Again, I was not there, so I have no way of knowing if this was a pressure pot building up or not.

Now, there are some folks who are just plain mean and nasty when they lose, alcohol or no alcohol. I think we all may have run across people with that personality type. :embarrassed2:

Lesson learned: Never gamble when you're drinking. It could get ugly.
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Better lesson: Be very careful who you gamble with (with whom you gamble). :wink:
 
I've seen Shane countless times and he is generally very quiet.

Again - would love to hear why he was allowed to continue in the event. There is only one correct answer why. All others are failures.
 
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Only time I've seen someone act like a total idiot and not get kicked out of the pool room/tournament was when the powers that be, had a stake in the action and or, had said player in the Calcutta.

It always happens like that.
 
SUPERSTAR said:
Only time I've seen someone act like a total idiot and not get kicked out of the pool room/tournament was when the powers that be, had a stake in the action and or, had said player in the Calcutta.

It always happens like that.
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Good point! :wink:
 
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