What is a Shortstop?
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SJM,
I have always understood it to be a local player who is good enough to beat most local players, attract local backers; but not good enough to beat the top road players who seek him out preferentially (to liberate the money from the backers and shortstop). Since my goal in life at the present time is to become a shortstop, please educate me if this turns out to be incorrect.
Signed,
A. Rod.
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A shortstop is a player that plays lower pro level pretty often, but is not good enough to beat the real pros very often. He is the guy that is usually barred from almost all local tournaments, but can barely cash in the larger Open tournaments. Pretty bad spot to be stuck in.
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Bob Jewett said:
HOw about clock,cheese,rock,lemon,whitey, horse,railbird,post,park,nit?
What about the derivation of shortstop? Im guessing way back when a roadie mentioned he was going to play someone some but it was just a "short stop" (he'd be outta there quick with the cash)
Nostroke said:
Some of those have more than one meaning. Could you expand on the ones you mean?
As for derivations, unless we can find a reference, I think there's no point in guessing. I've always thought "shortstop" meant he would pull up (stop short) when the real pressure came on.
Bob Jewett said:
Hi Bob!
No point in guessing? I disagree-it's fun
clock=1. to assess by observation the speed of a player 2. to take notice of any pool activity by others for future use in betting.
whitey, rock= cue ball
Horse-a player having been backed in a match or bought in a calcutta is the buyor or backers horse.
Park-to stop the cueball perfectly, usually mid table after the break in nineball.
To go on the lemon=stall
Nit=Player or sidebetter not willing to bet high enough in the eyes of the accusor.
Post-to place the cash for a bet upfront in a neutral location for purposes of ensuring its availability to the winner.
Robbery=a match-up where one player has virtually no chance of winning.
Some of those may be a bit clumsy but i think you can see where im aiming .
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Jimmy M. said:Well hot damn (like that? that's right, I said "hot damn")! I thought it was the guy between 2nd and 3rd base! Which seems to be the story of my life. I just can't get to home plate! I must be a shortstop!
Along with what has been mentioned, I like to think of a shortstop as the best player on 'his' team, but if he played on another team, he might only be a right fielder, or a bench player. Switch that to pool=Big Fish in Little Pond.
IMO
As in Baseball, a shortstop stops the ball from going on into the outfield. In pool a top player stops anyone under his playing speed from advancing in the tournament. And if that lesser player gets farther in the tournament then expected, then he/she is playing over his head, just like in baseball, if the ball is hit over the infielder head the batter advances...
Hi cueman,
Years ago I asked Larry "Iceman" Hubbard that question. He said "look in the mirror". Ouch!!! Most of the posts on this thread still pretty much describe my game. I guess Jimmy M. hit the nail directly on the head! Green Guy also had an apt description with his "On the Job Training" comment a few years ago.
Years ago I asked Larry "Iceman" Hubbard that question. He said "look in the mirror". Ouch!!! Most of the posts on this thread still pretty much describe my game. I guess Jimmy M. hit the nail directly on the head! Green Guy also had an apt description with his "On the Job Training" comment a few years ago.
cardiac kid said:Hi cueman,
Years ago I asked Larry "Iceman" Hubbard that question. He said "look in the mirror". Ouch!!! Most of the posts on this thread still pretty much describe my game. I guess Jimmy M. hit the nail directly on the head! Green Guy also had an apt description with his "On the Job Training" comment a few years ago.
Larry, the original "Iceman" Hubbart, yea, it ends in a T but who's counting, didn't have to tell me about the mirror, Kid. I allready knew I was a "Shortstop" and he, at the time, was the only tripple crown winner, world 8 ball, world 9 ball and world 14-1 in the same year, in pool history. It's a shame so many people have never heard the name, Larry Hubbart. He won enough tournaments to be in the HOF. Playing all games, he was probably the most feared player in the country for years.
Thanks for reminding folks of this world beater, Cardiac Kid.