What is the worst roll you have ever seen?

Not the classic “bad roll” but Skylar got an awful roll, against Shaw in the Mosconi, on the lag! Not positive but I think it was 2023. I’m not tech savvy enough to post the video, but he scratched on the lag!


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For me, this is the worst roll I've ever seen. At double hill in the Derby City 9ball final in 2014, John Morra appeared to have played a beautiful, incredibly clutch, kick and stick that would win him the match but something freaky happened when the object ball went into the side pocket and, as he had sadly played safe on himself, it cost him the title. A 55-year old SJM was looking on as you might notice. Time stramp 1:43:10

 
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For me, this is the worst roll I've ever seen. At double hill in the Derby City 9ball final in 2014, John Morra appeared to have played a beautiful, incredibly clutch, kick and stick that would win him the match but something freaky when the object ball went into the side pocket and, as he had sadly played safe on himself, it cost him the title. A 55-year old was looking on as you might notice. Time stramp 1:43:10

I've posted the video starting at the right time. Man that was really bad. Though that particular hit- and stick shot is prominently featured in Buddy Halls "How do you win from here", in which Buddy explicitly mentioned the possibility of making it in the side. :
 
Buddy explicitly mentioned the possibility of making it in the side.
Sure, it was probably a 5% chance to unintentionally make the two in the side, but for it to have happened at a time when a tournament title was riding on the outcome was an unbelievably cruel twist of fate and it still rates as the worst roll that I have ever seen because of it.
 
Sure, it was probably a 5% chance to unintentionally make the two in the side, but for it to have happened at a time when a tournament title was riding on the outcome was an unbelievably cruel twist of fate and it still rates as the worst roll that I have ever seen because of it.
IDK about the percentages, on a Diamond they're probably pretty low. I do know that on an Old Accu-Stats tape, Grady would have called the possiblity, as would Buddy and maybe Nick Varner and I also know that Billy would have fought Grady on it, but not the other two :ROFLMAO:
 
IDK about the percentages, on a Diamond they're probably pretty low. I do know that on an Old Accu-Stats tape, Grady would have called the possiblity, as would Buddy and maybe Nick Varner and I also know that Billy would have fought Grady on it, but not the other two :ROFLMAO:
Yes, that match was played on a Diamond. As you know, Derby City is a Diamond Billiards produced event and the main purpose of the event is to showcase and promote Diamond tables. Agreed that the two going in the side was possible, but very unlikely, as the commentators correctly noted.

It was the timing of it that made it the worst roll I have ever seen. Surely, worse things than that have happened. I recall once at a PBT event in Great Gorge, NY in what I believe was 1997, in the very first round of the event, at double hill, a player was kicking and on two fouls and he missed the kicking angle by quite a bit, but the cue ball hit the point of the side pocket, caromed into the one ball which then knocked in the 9ball, turning a three-foul loss into a win. Obviously, that roll was worse than the one that befell Morra, but it did not come at a big moment, so it's not my choice for this thread.
 
For an actual roll...
Darren Appleton was playing Efren in the US Open (2015?) in a close match. Efren shot and it was clear that the cue ball would get snookered behind a ball by the spot until it hit the spot sticker and was deflected to perfect position. Efren won the match.

Another was when Thorsten Hohmann scratched on the lag after his cue ball rolled off most of a diamond.
 
I don't think that's bad roll at all. He took a questionable path to get on the 9. All he needed to was to get to the middle of the table to have a workable shot on the 9.

kollegedave
Did you not see the 8 fell into the pocket right before the cue ball got there? 8 ball had been in the same spot the whole game.
 
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