What poolroom did you learn to play at? Who were your mentors?

JimS said:
I started at Brads Pool Hall here in Galesburg Il. The place was run by the two Bradshaw brothers, Shirley and Perry. They were in their 60's and had very little patience with smart ass 14 yr old brats... i.e. me. They kicked me out time after time as the rule was you had to be 16 to get in. I kept on slipping in the back door and they finally just threw their hands up and gave in to my good looks, charming manner and quick wit.

I had no mentor. NOBODY would show me anything. That's the way it was. I watched and learned and then experimented on the table in the back corner. If they weren't busy they would let me play for 1/2 price on that table as it had torn cloth. Full price was a penney a minute or a dime a game. The year was 1956/57. Pepsi was a dime, $.15 for a big hot dog at the Coney Island across the street, chips for a nickle, candy bars for a nickle, cigs were a quarter a pack, gas about $0.20 a gallon. $2 an hour was good pay.

There was no TV (except durig the World Series or boxing matches), no music, cussing was kept at a minimum. I loved that place. Home was no place to be. To much unhappiness and BAD vibes all the time so I was always looking for some place to hang. Brads was my home and the guys were my family. It was torn down in the 60's.

Thanks Jim. I love this story. Brings back good and bad memories for me.
 
Golden Q, 9th and Ash Street, Hays, Kansas. Gold Crown 9 footers and 10 foot snooker tables. That was in the 70's. It's still there but now has bar boxes plus two of the original snooker tables.
 
I started playing in the early 60's by taping lunch bags on the sides of the dinner table, using oranges for balls and a broom stick for a cue after seeing pool on TV. I actually got where I could draw my orange a little bit. LOL

Just before I turned 13, I got to play at the teen club three times a week on the army base which had four 8 footers.

By the time I turned 16, I expanded my gambling education by playing quarter on the 5 and a half on the 9 at the local bowling alley with the same mutts every day after school. Felt like I'd made a major score if I ended up five bucks ahead. As cheap as this game was, this is where I had the brother-in-law, dump and double dump moves put on me in our ring games.

I didn't have a mentor. Like Tennesseejoe, if it weren't for Mosconi's little book, it would have been a cruel world. Players back then kept their secrets very close to their vests.

If I had a quarter for everytime I heard "I don't know" after I asked a player how he hit a shot, I'd been retired by age 19. LOL

Stones
 
Everyone respects Frank the Barber! There's even a horse named after him...and he just won last week at Hollywood Park...no kidding!

Let's see:

Warsaw Cue Club, Hamtramck, MI (anyone else?).
Kelly's Cue, East Detroit ($5 per game one pocket with Carl Wolf at 9-7 with no chance of winning)
8-Mile/Mound Recreation (god bless owner, Angelo Brucato)
Campo's, East Detroit or Roseville (daily payball game)
Cue Tips/ Playland Recreation, East Detriot (had a number of excellent players--learned most from Tommy Lazlo)
College Billiards, San Diego, CA (Hats off to Coyt, Swanee...and cue freak extraordinaire John Skinner who introduced me to Gus Szamboti)
Billiard Tavern, San Diego, CA (whatever happened to Dick Megiveron?)
Bob's Billiards, Anaheim, CA (with Keith, Dickie, Billy Trask, Little Man, et. al....I thank God I survived the fun!)
Orange County Sports Arena, Anaheim, CA (Ronnie Allen was the house pro...battled Charlie the Ape a few times at 1P)
16 year hiatus...then
Shooter's, Riverside, CA (was moderate action and 20/2 golf every weekend)
Hard Times, Bellflower, CA (among the most ideal playing GC I's and II's anywhere in the tournament room).

Martin


jay helfert said:
Who knows how many guys you have been a mentor to? Out here, the Barber is a legend! And he still plays damn good.
 
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Hey John, It was huge fun to play in that golf game at Covina Bowl with you and the guys on Saturdays in early 80's. I must have played 4-5 times. Came up there from San Diego with little Steve Kolari. I don't know what happened but all of a sudden the games stopped or they took the tables out or something. This was 1983-84. I wouldn't think you'd remember me, but when I make it up to Sacto for a 1P tournament I'll make sure I say hello.

Martin






jrhendy said:
If I had to pick a mentor, I would say it was Dado the Filipino. I started gambling with Dado when I was 15 at a little pool room in Monterey Park, CA. We even played one pocket on the 5 x 10 snooker table. He didn't exactly take me under his wing, but he gambled cheap with me and I learned quite a bit from him. He took me on my first road trip, about 10 miles north to an all black pool room in Pasadena, CA in about 1955. When I was 17 he left for a couple of years and went to Alabama. He came back when I was 19, played me a $50 set of 9 ball, lost and quit. He had Mexican Phil with him & Phil busted me instead of Dado. Same results as every other time I fooled with him. He could be treacherous. He would lend me money when I went empty & be in with the other guy. He knew I was good for it and would get an extra jellyroll for his trouble. It backfired one time when I lost $500 to Morro Paez playing $50 a game 9 ball. I borrowed $500, jacked the bet to $100 and turned the tables for a $1,300 winner. The next day I blew $1,200 to Pepe from 4th & Main playing one pocket, so he probably got his money back. My mentors were all people I gambled with. I learned how to play snooker by playing Freddie Nima, who might have been the best 5 x 10 snooker player on the West Coast & very few people knew of him. He would play three red ball snooker for $5 a game and just play perfect. Whenever I got a little $$ I would go down to the Chatterbox looking for him. They let me drink beer in there too, so that was another good reason to go. John Henderson
 
Villa Park Bowl

Elm Rec

Town and Country

Lorimors (Oak Park)

Didn't really have mentors but you can learn a lot by playing good/great players. I played many:)
 
Cue & Cushion in Reno, NV geez 21yrs ago already. My mentors the owner (still) Michael(Mickey) Peele and a p layer from that time Tony Martino. Also a woman straight pool player named Linda Whitlock and her sister Vicki (I believe that Linda's husband owned a pool room in philly at the time) She was a nearly a hundred ball runner playing straights. said it was the only game worth playing. :) I went to see my first Pro tourney at the Sands when I was 12 and watched Bobby Hunter, Swanny, and Ray Martin Battle it out for the top 3. I ended up riding down the elevator with Bobby after his match and made (made a little kid comment) "WOW you play great, wish I played that well" He told me that he did not do anything that I could't do with a lot of practice. I have been hooked on the game ever since. :)
T
 
i started playing at the marine lounge in iwakuni japan. not much 2 free 9 footers and decent competition. everyone was friendly always trying to help me with my game. i don't know all their first names but Cpl. howell
jeff friggon and takashi fujikawa helped with my game a lot. got me pointed in the right direction. every now and again i'd go to iwakuni billiards and those japanese players there could really play
 
jay helfert said:
Got my start at the Cue & Bridge and Winks (Forest Park Billiards) in Dayton, Ohio in the 60's. George Rood was THE MAN and I watched him every chance I got. Another old guy named Jake Spitler showed me things and made me practice ALL games, since in those days, there was a Snooker and a Billiard table in the room.

I followed Fats around like a puppy dog. He let me carry his cue and ride in his limo with him. He was non stop FUNNY 24 hours a day. He taught me how to "maneuver", as he put it. And no one did it better than the Fat man.


That WAS back in the days of ivory balls right?

actually I wether he knows it or not since I came out of retirement Jay has been my mentor,

before that Roy Futternick in sacramento was-he did a good job, i still think of him EVERYTIME I play, he also taught me to play single deck 21, i'm barred out of every joint in Vegas that has single deck left, down town in only 4 or 5 places, i played cheap too, but man they take counting seriously, not +/- and basic stragity(its way more complex than that-I cant do it on a double deck or shoe) anyone can do that and lose.

thanks jay, roy.
 
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I first started playing 9-ball on 9' tables at Santa Rosa Billiards in CA. I saw a sign in the window that said "Monday Night 9-Ball Tournament" -I thought, "9-Ball... what's that?" That was back in the early 90's, now I still play in that same tournament and have been at the top of the $$ list for the past couple years.

I mostly just learned by playing and watching. Larry Nearson was someone I played often and learned a lot from playing with (We would play a race for a candy bar or something like that and I would almost always lose). EZ Wadsworth was also another local player I learned a lot by playing and watching his strategies. I also used to play a lot of races to five for $5 with a local power shooter, Gene Beaumont.

...Back in the Good Ol' Days...
 
Just getting caught up on some older threads and saw this one.

I started late as I grew up in the country with no pool tables.
Around 18 I started going to Annie's Cafe and a bowling alley in
Enterprise Al. A group of us took it up pretty hard.
A shoutout to Eddie, OJ and BC Lee for showing us the ropes first off.

It wasnt long before we were driving an hour to Dothan Al where all the good players were at. They played at Herman and Ann's and there was always something going on.
I was lucky to have several older and wiser guys show me some things. I asked alot of questions and just hung out around the snooker table watching. I barely hit a ball there for 3 weeks.
Scotty T, Johnny Archer, Junior Goff, Doug James, James Hilton, Jimmy Wales, Ronnie Yarborough, and a slew of road guys were always there playing.
Junior Goff took a liking to me and really spent more time with me then anyone else. Only guy to really give me lessons. I started out paying and then as I was going through college he stopped. I think he just wanted someone to tell his knowledge and stories to. I would always listen, buy lunch and soak up as much as I could.
We went out to some bars and pool rooms together around the south and
Junior was a true hustler. He could flat get the money anywhere.
He once beat a guy that kept telling him that he knew him. Junior said that he was mistaken and that he was just there visiting me--his grandson. I go to the restroom and theres Juniors damn picture on the wall. He was playing the SAME GUY in the picture only 27 years earlier.
I almost died. Junior took down the cash and we left. never knew if the other fella figured it out or not. LOL

Since then I have learned to try and learn from anybody and everybody.

I have even learned from a poster or two on here.

Without being a ball pocketing machine and having limited skills I need the knowledge and a decent stroke to keep up. Always try and make it hard for the other guy to beat me is generally my motto.
 
I learned to play at Teasdale's Billiard Academy in Dover, NJ. Last time I was up that way, the location had been taken over by Fred's Fish Market. LOL. No mentors, but I used to like to watch the best guys in town like Nick Ricciotti and Jo Jo Contessa. I learned the finer points of the game by reading and rereading Mosconi's little red book.
 
will8834 said:
I started my misspent youth at a bowling alley with 15 brunswick pool tables. Arc Lanes in Evansville Indiana. The guys that taught me to play where Skyler, (RIP) Larry Mayor (RIP) Bobbie Newbols, George Dillard and Steve Parsons. My buddy was a really good player for his age Jeremy Brown. We where about 16 and I had a car and a job and would take him around town and stake him. We generally got the best of it.
Each one had alot to offer in advise and always open to playing cheap.


Was Varner around at this time?
 
Holy Moly

frankncali said:
Just getting caught up on some older threads and saw this one.

I started late as I grew up in the country with no pool tables.
Around 18 I started going to Annie's Cafe and a bowling alley in
Enterprise Al. A group of us took it up pretty hard.
A shoutout to Eddie, OJ and BC Lee for showing us the ropes first off.

It wasnt long before we were driving an hour to Dothan Al where all the good players were at. They played at Herman and Ann's and there was always something going on.
I was lucky to have several older and wiser guys show me some things. I asked alot of questions and just hung out around the snooker table watching. I barely hit a ball there for 3 weeks.
Scotty T, Johnny Archer, Junior Goff, Doug James, James Hilton, Jimmy Wales, Ronnie Yarborough, and a slew of road guys were always there playing.
Junior Goff took a liking to me and really spent more time with me then anyone else. Only guy to really give me lessons. I started out paying and then as I was going through college he stopped. I think he just wanted someone to tell his knowledge and stories to. I would always listen, buy lunch and soak up as much as I could.
We went out to some bars and pool rooms together around the south and
Junior was a true hustler. He could flat get the money anywhere.
He once beat a guy that kept telling him that he knew him. Junior said that he was mistaken and that he was just there visiting me--his grandson. I go to the restroom and theres Juniors damn picture on the wall. He was playing the SAME GUY in the picture only 27 years earlier.
I almost died. Junior took down the cash and we left. never knew if the other fella figured it out or not. LOL

Since then I have learned to try and learn from anybody and everybody.

I have even learned from a poster or two on here.

Without being a ball pocketing machine and having limited skills I need the knowledge and a decent stroke to keep up. Always try and make it hard for the other guy to beat me is generally my motto.
Doug James? Ronnie Yarbrough? I knew and became friends with Doug when he opened Raleigh Billiard Club, back around '93? Funny dude. Ran into him again, with Ronnie, in Greenville, SC. at a bartable tournament. Any information to contact ol' Doug?
 
1980, Pegs Pocket in Miami...after seeing Jimmy Matz run rack after rack I was hooked. Race engine genius Ronnie Crawford and original Harlem Globetrotter Arturo Coverson gave me a great base to work with, they also schooled Tony Ellin.
 
Me too!

ribdoner said:
Villa Park Bowl

Elm Rec

Town and Country

Lorimors (Oak Park)

Didn't really have mentors but you can learn a lot by playing good/great players. I played many:)

Villa Park Bowl 60's and 70's. Check your PM box.
 
I started playing in a grocery store. They had 2 bar boxes. Then moved to shooting in bowling alleys and bars. No mentors I am self taught. That is probably why I am not a pro.
 
thebigdog said:
I learned to play in my dads poolroom, Boyce's Billiards in Hesperia, Ca. My mentors were Mike Boyce (my dad), Dave Kirby, and Dean Brussard.
John Schmidt also learned to play at Boyce's around the same time as me.

Mike Boyce was a damn good player I remember from about 15+ years back. I have not seen him in many, many years. I hope all is well.
 
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