What skill level are you actively working towards?

What level do you aspire to

  • Pro

    Votes: 26 13.2%
  • Open

    Votes: 50 25.4%
  • A

    Votes: 52 26.4%
  • B

    Votes: 16 8.1%
  • C

    Votes: 3 1.5%
  • D

    Votes: 4 2.0%
  • No level in particular, I just want to play better

    Votes: 33 16.8%
  • I have little to no interest in improving, I just enjoy playing

    Votes: 1 0.5%
  • Haven't worked that out yet

    Votes: 4 2.0%
  • I thought this was a knitting forum? This isn't the thread I thought it was

    Votes: 8 4.1%

  • Total voters
    197
Are there any concrete, clear definitions for these 'rating' things?
It all seems a bit random to me. Especially when you see things like A+, AA, AA+, etc.

-Tim

I've always agreed with this following definition, except for the part about A players and Open player always stringing racks together. It depends entirely on how the table is breaking, and how good a breaker the player is.

D- Player
>will not run a rack
>average run is about 3 balls
>with ball in hand, will get out from the 7, one out of 3 times
>rarely plays a successful safe

C-Player
>will probably run one rack, but usually not more than one
>avg. run is 3 to 5 balls
>with ball in hand, will get out from the 7, two out of 3 times
>mixed results when playing safe
>inning ends due to botched position, missed shot or attempting a safe.

B-Player
>Able to run 1 to 3 racks
>avg. run is 5-7 balls
>with ball in hand will get out form the 5, 2 out of 3 times
>most of the time a "B" player will play a "safety" which maybe hit easily 2 out of 3 times
>a typical inning will end with a missed shot, a fair safety, or a won game

A-Player
>will string 2 to 3 racks
>avg. ball run, 7-9
>with ball in hand, will be out from the 3 ball, 2 out of 3 times
>typical inning will end with a well executed safety or a win.

OPEN-Players
>average 8+ balls
>string racks together more than once in a match
>is a threat to run out from every ball, from every position, every inning
>typical inning will end in excellent safety or win
 
Rating?

Hi,
Interesting thread.
Always wondered why the visitors at the pool hall always shot better pool,
The definition helps .

Thanks
I play BCA but not sure if APA would be better = handicap deal for a returning player,
any recommendations --I have heard that APA might be more fare.
 
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Where I live --B would be nice ,
A could pay some bills,
Open Pay off a car

Too old for PRO +


Maybe not!!
 
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I've always agreed with this following definition, except for the part about A players and Open player always stringing racks together. It depends entirely on how the table is breaking, and how good a breaker the player is.

D- Player
>will not run a rack
>average run is about 3 balls
>with ball in hand, will get out from the 7, one out of 3 times
>rarely plays a successful safe

C-Player
>will probably run one rack, but usually not more than one
>avg. run is 3 to 5 balls
>with ball in hand, will get out from the 7, two out of 3 times
>mixed results when playing safe
>inning ends due to botched position, missed shot or attempting a safe.

B-Player
>Able to run 1 to 3 racks
>avg. run is 5-7 balls
>with ball in hand will get out form the 5, 2 out of 3 times
>most of the time a "B" player will play a "safety" which maybe hit easily 2 out of 3 times
>a typical inning will end with a missed shot, a fair safety, or a won game

A-Player
>will string 2 to 3 racks
>avg. ball run, 7-9
>with ball in hand, will be out from the 3 ball, 2 out of 3 times
>typical inning will end with a well executed safety or a win.

OPEN-Players
>average 8+ balls
>string racks together more than once in a match
>is a threat to run out from every ball, from every position, every inning
>typical inning will end in excellent safety or win

By that definition I'm an honest C+/B- player.

LWW
 
Pro level. Why settle for less?

Since I cannot replace my day job income unless I were a top tier pro with paid endorsement deals, I do not aspire to make a living playing pool.

I'm a C+/B- player. I believe I can achieve A player. Like another poster said, I want to be a threat to anyone in a tourney.


:cool:
 
Goal: A+ or Open

I'm rated as a B+ player at the weekly Mr. Cues II 9-ball touney in Atlanta, GA. A couple months ago, I played in a GSBT event and was rated as a A player. I'm a solid 9 in BCA. I guess I average out to a A-. My goal would be a solid A+ player which I obtained when I was 19. Being 36 now, and taking a ten year break from pool has taken some of my speed away. I would like to be back to where I used to be. An Open player status would exceed my expectations. Only issue is time at the table. Now I play 6-8hrs a week. Back in the day, I worked in a pool hall and played 3-6hrs a day.
Cheers, Mark
 
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Out of curiosity for the people choosing pro, it's your end goal correct? In other words your aiming to become a professional level player at some point in your development? If so, excellent. If not, I'm interested in what people are trying to achieve.

The end goal is to able to play pool at the highest level you can possibly achieve.

That's the pro level obviously.
 
I just wish I had more time to play. I am fortunate to have a good job that pays my bills but it would sure be nice to not have to work and have more time to play. When I was laid off in 92 I played avg. of 10hrs a day and got pretty stong. I play better now (knowledge wise) but I was sure a lot more consistant then. I was also younger fearless and most important could SEE better.

B- or B now would love to get to an A
 
I would say Im a B- player and would like to be a A+ player, being I work for the railroad I have zero desire to make pool my main sorce of income, but I would like to be able to make some side money
 
"I thought this was a knitting forum? This isn't the thread I thought it was"


Hmmm... I think this should have read:

  • I thought this was a sewing forum? This isn't the thread I thought it was

IMO,

Fred <~~~ aspiring to make it out of bed in time
 
I'd like to hit B+ player status some day. I believe I'm currently at the C+ level and getting nearer to the B- level. Right now I believe I'm not consistent enough and do not have the mental game and foresight to be considered a B player. Improvement is slow since I rarely focus on practicing, but I see a little improvement every once in a while.

Watching pros play, I realize that I will not get to that level without much, much more time put into it (times a thousand). I think that at a B+ level I should have a running chance to win a couple of local tournaments with an occassional good placement in a regional tournament.
 
"I thought this was a knitting forum? This isn't the thread I thought it was"


Hmmm... I think this should have read:

  • I thought this was a sewing forum? This isn't the thread I thought it was

IMO,

Fred <~~~ aspiring to make it out of bed in time

Argh, your right. I screwed up my pun. Damn the uneditable poll.
 
I'd love to get to the point where I can string 5 racks of 9-ball on a good day. Like, not just doing it once because I got 5 spectacular breaks in a row, but getting to the point where a very good opponent in the chair starts to feel concerned about how many racks I'll run before I let him back to the table. I'd consider this level to be "open", so that's what I voted for.

If you're the kind of player who might come out with a 5-pack at any time, you have a chance to beat the best in the world. Probably not often, but you're never in a match that you don't have a chance to win. That would be great.

-Andrew
 
I don't know if this has been done before as a poll. I'm curious from a statistical standpoint what level players aspire to, if any at all (which is fine).

I'm not talking pipe dreams, only answer pro if it is a goal you are aiming for and feel that you can attain. In otherwords not, "I could get there if I had more time" or "It'd be nice if I could play like"

I'll use what I believe is the New York system Pro, Open, A, B, C, D. I believe more people subscribe to this understanding than not.

IMO - even at the Pro level, there are stages. To be among the Elite will be the goal when I next give it a go. :wink:
 
When I get the table up again in the next few days, I will be practicing to become pro speed. I know the weak areas I have to work on to compete at that level. I can see 30-40 hour weeks coming real soon.
 
I'd love to get to the point where I can string 5 racks of 9-ball on a good day. Like, not just doing it once because I got 5 spectacular breaks in a row, but getting to the point where a very good opponent in the chair starts to feel concerned about how many racks I'll run before I let him back to the table. I'd consider this level to be "open", so that's what I voted for.

If you're the kind of player who might come out with a 5-pack at any time, you have a chance to beat the best in the world. Probably not often, but you're never in a match that you don't have a chance to win. That would be great.

-Andrew

I agree. The above is pretty much the peak of my everest, but I suspect if get there I might look for a bigger mountain.
 
I've always agreed with this following definition, except for the part about A players and Open player always stringing racks together. It depends entirely on how the table is breaking, and how good a breaker the player is.

D- Player
>will not run a rack
>average run is about 3 balls
>with ball in hand, will get out from the 7, one out of 3 times
>rarely plays a successful safe

C-Player
>will probably run one rack, but usually not more than one
>avg. run is 3 to 5 balls
>with ball in hand, will get out from the 7, two out of 3 times
>mixed results when playing safe
>inning ends due to botched position, missed shot or attempting a safe.

B-Player
>Able to run 1 to 3 racks
>avg. run is 5-7 balls
>with ball in hand will get out form the 5, 2 out of 3 times
>most of the time a "B" player will play a "safety" which maybe hit easily 2 out of 3 times
>a typical inning will end with a missed shot, a fair safety, or a won game

A-Player
>will string 2 to 3 racks
>avg. ball run, 7-9
>with ball in hand, will be out from the 3 ball, 2 out of 3 times
>typical inning will end with a well executed safety or a win.

OPEN-Players
>average 8+ balls
>string racks together more than once in a match
>is a threat to run out from every ball, from every position, every inning
>typical inning will end in excellent safety or win

going by this I'd fall in the "B" ranking range for 9ball,,,, which most of my friends think I am, even thought in 90% of any handicap tourny I've played in, I am a "C" player cuz I've never won anything.....

in 8ball, I'm a solid "B" player, I've run many racks of 8ball "BCA or APA" and should easily be a sl7 in 8ball...
 
I have had to work a full time and a part time job since I was 21. I'm 50 this past April. For 10 of those years, I worked a full time job and two part time jobs. I had a growing family to support. I don't regret taking care of them.
But, in Nov 2006, I quit my part time job and only worked full time. Always practiced when time permitted. Played since I was 11 so I had thousands of hours at the table. But the practice and playing really picked up after my schedule freed up some. My goal was to be competitive in any senior competition. I can honestly say that I was never playing so good in my life as I had in 2007-2008. I wanted to play at Grady's in one of his events.

Then the back surgery in April 2009 followed by that infection that put me back in the hospital. I was basically on my back for 6 months. And I have not been able to hit one ball since. Can't bend over enough and I refuse to shoot standing straight up ala Alfredo DeOro!
I hope to someday be able to run a rack of 8 ball and 9 ball again. My high run in 14.1 was only 41 but I was trying to up that by specifically practicing 14.1, which is one of my favorite games. Now, I'd be thrilled to run 41 ever again.
Once I get loosened up some, I do intend to work hard at pool again. It's the funnest (word?) thing to practice!

I wish you the best of luck my friend. I, more than most, can sympathize with you about your back problem. I haven't had surgery, but I suffer with arthritis and it has definitely slowed my pool game down. I play twice a week and practice when I can squeeze in some time to hit a few racks.

Keep a positive attitude and you'll be back playing before you know it.

James
 
I think most 90% in any sport aspires to be great.
Its also true that roughly 95% of all those DONT work actively and correctly on reaching that dream.

I am not any different. I would love to play solid A speed or higher every time I play. however I dont put in the neccessary focus, practice and
dedication to do so.

Years ago I could play for hours and hours always learning and trying hard. Now the game is enjoyable but in small batches.

However, after a couple recent bad outings I am thinking about creating a dedicated practice routine. I believe that short practice sessions that are very focused can be very beneficial especially over long sessions that are random and undefined.
 
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