What tears me up...

Reason #2374 I hate communicating on the internet. Did you mean "tear" like the salty liquid rolling down your cheek, or "tear" like I'm gonna tear ass out of this parking lot if I lose on this air barrel...

:p

P.S. I know you've been away from the forum for a while but this has been discussed quite a bit recently. As well as "why don't pool players make as much as golfers. etc. etc."

-J
 
Sweet Marissa said:
Seeing bass fishing and poker on ESPN. These are not sports. Bass fishing doesn't even require skill. And poker is a bunch of cards. Put it on the game show network!

Pool takes talent and skill. It makes me sad for all the wasted talent that could have been great, even legendary, in pool and billiards, a real sport.
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Oh my oh my Marissa, are you trying to piss people off? I agree with you, just so you know but I think that the people who fish and play poker don't look at it that way. It's like saying that pool is just a bunch of balls and a stick. I did a thread not too long ago complaining about cup stacking, Rock paper scissors and hot dog eating and a few said that it was entertaining and that those "sports thought that pool was stupid" Thats for eating hot dogs! you are either going to hear about this or get nothing. I will keep my eye out. :)
 
Sweet Marissa said:
Seeing bass fishing and poker on ESPN. These are not sports. Bass fishing doesn't even require skill. And poker is a bunch of cards. Put it on the game show network!
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I beg to differ about bass fishing, ESPECIALLY tournament fishing. You try getting up at 3:00 in the morning, running a boat 30-50 miles down a lake in all kind of extreme weather, then trying to cast a lure 30 to 40 feet into a strike zone the size of a dinner plate, all the while standing on the bow of a boat with 4 foot swells bouncing the boat up and down like a friggin' yo-yo. Now, repeat this process for 4 straight days for a FIRST PLACE payout of about $25,000 on the average (and this is the professional B.A.S.S. tour). You think pool has got this beat as a sport??? Don't knock it 'til you've tried it. It's tough as hell!!!

Maniac
 
I dont know a thing about fishing, all I seem to catch is water when I throw a hook out, but it seems to me there is skill in this. It would not surprise me to learn that Bass fishing has an Efrenish guy who just seems to take down all the trophies and prize money when it comes to catching largemouth Bass.
 
Truthfully though, lots of people don't view pool as a sport either. Bob Fancher does a great job claiming it's a sport in "Pleasures of Small Motions"
 
Slackers

Fast, Quick & Easy and anybody can do it is the current thought process for allot of up and coming Americans....
 
I've never went bass fishing so I can't comment on that one, but I make about $25-$30K a year playing poker live and online. Aside from tournaments, whom anyone that can play a little can win from time to time, the same people win a lot more often than not and the same people lose a lot more often than not. Poker is definitely a lot more skill than luck and anyone that says otherwise is most definitely a losing player.
 
Look at it this way

Sweet Marissa said:
Seeing bass fishing and poker on ESPN. These are not sports. Bass fishing doesn't even require skill. And poker is a bunch of cards. Put it on the game show network!

Pool takes talent and skill. It makes me sad for all the wasted talent that could have been great, even legendary, in pool and billiards, a real sport.
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I used to get upset at that, too, Marissa, especially when they televised the frigging Spelling Bee! Then someeone pointed out to me that the E in ESPN is Entertainment. That means they can throw whatever they want out there as long as they think it will get ratings.
At least this way they're not defining everything as a sport/non-sport when they televise it.
 
Sweet Marissa said:
I def agree poker takes skill, but it shouldn't be on ESPN! :)
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lol, why not? because you said so? The networks are gonna put whatever draws the ratings. If me sitting on a toilet snacking on cheeze bits while playing online poker brings ratings then I can assure you that the networks will put it on TV. The fact is that a vast majority of people prefer to watch poker more than pool. I think your argument is that it shouldn't be on ESPN because its not a sport, but ESPN gladly calls it a sport so they get to reap the benefits of its huge following. I would say that it is a game with sporting tendencies.
 
corvette1340 said:
lol, why not? because you said so? The networks are gonna put whatever draws the ratings. If me sitting on a toilet snacking on cheeze bits while playing online poker brings ratings then I can assure you that the networks will put it on TV. The fact is that a vast majority of people prefer to watch poker more than pool. I think your argument is that it shouldn't be on ESPN because its not a sport, but ESPN gladly calls it a sport so they get to reap the benefits of its huge following. I would say that it is a game with sporting tendencies.
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Do you think that they should call poker players atheletes? or even pool players for that matter? I have got into this argument with people before saying that dart players are atheletes. What you say?
 
uwate said:
I dont know a thing about fishing, all I seem to catch is water when I throw a hook out, but it seems to me there is skill in this. It would not surprise me to learn that Bass fishing has an Efrenish guy who just seems to take down all the trophies and prize money when it comes to catching largemouth Bass.
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I fish quite a bit when I'm not working or playing pool. Fishing is very tough. There are a lot of variables. Sometimes you can't find the fish, and some times they find you, but they refuse to bite what your throwing at them. Some times you can bounce your bait right off their head, and they won't bite. Also, my boat gets one gallon to the mile, and it's a 25 mile run from my backyard to the Gulf. It REALLY sucks when you burn a $500 tank of gas, and have to go home and grill up the bait, or go to Outback.:eek:
 
Sweet Marissa said:
Seeing bass fishing and poker on ESPN. These are not sports. Bass fishing doesn't even require skill. And poker is a bunch of cards. Put it on the game show network!

Pool takes talent and skill. It makes me sad for all the wasted talent that could have been great, even legendary, in pool and billiards, a real sport.
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Just curious SM...

Have you ever actually tried bass fishing? Have you played enough poker to appreciate the intricacies of the game?

I have a feeling that the general public has no idea how incredibly difficult pool can be (the pros just make it look so easy from their pov).
 
bfdlad said:
Do you think that they should call poker players atheletes? or even pool players for that matter? I have got into this argument with people before saying that dart players are atheletes. What you say?
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I've played darts for money, pool for money, I play poker 6-8 hours a day, and I played all sports growing up as well as basketball and golf in college. While I don't think golf, pool, darts, or poker require as much physicality as basketball, football, baseball, etc.., they do require skill sets unique to each of them. I don't think poker can be considered a sport, but golf, pool, and darts require a repeatable athletic motion which makes them sports. I guess it all depends on your definition.
 
I think pool should embrace the poker tournament model.

What if we had a tournament with a $10K entry fee. All the pool players received the appropriate amount of chips. Players woofed their own matches. No brackets, no scheduled play times etc. As time passed the minimum bets would increase, just to keep things moving. I think it would be alot of fun to watch.

Jim
 
I imagine that somewhere, someone is complaining on a bass fishing forum about how there's too much speed pool on tv and how it's not a real sport.
 
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