what to do 1pocket
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Flex said:
hit it too thick and you could scratch or give him great shape on the 8
poolplayer2093 said:
This is the shot I think I'd play. It seems pretty natural.
More high risk and less natural, and one you would have to see on an actual table, might be three rails with the CB thinning the 15 right back to his pocket. But as it looks diagrammed that 9 ball gets pretty big.
The more I look at it, you gotta be sure you get the CB 4 rails to the bottom rail or you will leave the 4 10 bank and be stuck on the rack.
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I like this slow to medium speed. I like it because even if you miss the 8 and end up owing a ball you end up with the CB safe near your opponents pocket.
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First I think supergreenman deserves a prize for imagination. I think the thing to do is remove the 15ball from you're opponents side by cross-banking an take it to your side an bringing the cueball one-rail to the end rail between the 8ball an the stack. Actually if the cueball is a little tardy an desn't get to the end rail thats better as long as you don't leave a simple cut shot on 8ball..................
Pinocchio
First I think supergreenman deserves a prize for imagination. I think the thing to do is remove the 15ball from you're opponents side by cross-banking an take it to your side an bringing the cueball one-rail to the end rail between the 8ball an the stack. Actually if the cueball is a little tardy an desn't get to the end rail thats better as long as you don't leave a simple cut shot on 8ball..................
Pinocchio
Ok, pretty noob when it comes to 1P, but do understand a little...
Wouldn't this be an option? Seems I could clip the 15 using inside and accomplish this or very close with minimul chance for selling out or making a bad mistake??
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isn't this a reasonable option?
Wouldn't this be an option? Seems I could clip the 15 using inside and accomplish this or very close with minimul chance for selling out or making a bad mistake??
OR
isn't this a reasonable option?
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Beware_of_Dawg said:
Too hard to control! and if you come up short you sell out the 8. even from where you left it he could bank the 6 into the stack to push more balls on his side or just the 6 on his side at least and leave you glued to the rail up table
even if he chose not to do that he could shoot the balls away from your side
Thanks for the reply's... I understand what your saying, I don't play 1P much.. and by that I mean to say Ive played a dozen times in my life MAX.
Definetely has it's nuainces, that I admitedly do not have a strong grasp on...
It's on my list to learn though.
Definetely has it's nuainces, that I admitedly do not have a strong grasp on...
It's on my list to learn though.
Beware_of_Dawg said:
Yes, and it's probably the best option if the cue ball really plays easily as you diagram - a few people have already suggested it. But the 15 couldn't go the direction you show - it would probably come out more like this:
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EDIT: BTW, this is only the best option if you actually get the cue ball against the stack so your opponent has no shot at the balls on your side and you don't hit the stack so hard you move things around and create an offensive shot for him. That's why I say it has to play easily - you have to really control the CB. It's also why you don't have a lot of flexibility in how you hit the 15 - to control the CB you probably have to hit the 15 more full than you'd want to.
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Thanks Patrick, honestly I was just trying to guestimate... these 2D graphics are really tough for me to figure angles still...
I think the best option for me would be to two rail kick to the low side of the 8 ball. If you hit it, great, if not you take the foul, it doesn't look like there's a good cross corner in the stack.
In the heat of the battle I would probably try to two rail the 15 like many have suggested.
Once when I was playing Mark Haddad, he smiled and said "you really like to shoot at your hole don't you?"
In the heat of the battle I would probably try to two rail the 15 like many have suggested.
Once when I was playing Mark Haddad, he smiled and said "you really like to shoot at your hole don't you?"
Alex Kanapilly said:
That would be too iffy for me. I'd be at too much risk of misjudging and getting above the 8 somehow (like going behind it). If I'm escaping that way I'll probably just take the scratch and 3-rail into the back side of the stack.
Bad things could happen, but if it looks right (can't tell from a diagram) I like that shot best for its offensive/defensive potential.
Once when I was playing Mark Haddad, he smiled and said "you really like to shoot at your hole don't you?"
That's probably the biggest problem for most players until they pay the high price of impatience often enough for the lesson to sink in or to drive them back to 9 ball. I might never be patient enough to play good 1P.
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Patrick Johnson said:
This option is the shot for me. I only shop it once, froze the cue between the 3 & 14. I made the 1 ball and 15 stayed where the 1 was. Of coese it would worked out better if the 15 kissed the 1 and rolled close to the pocket.
I only shot it once, why screw with perfection:wink:
If I could see the 12 ball I would thin it and go the length of the table to leave a tough shot at the 8 ball, if the 15 ball won't go by try to spin more and line them up. If I can't see the 12 ball, then I would bank the 9 ball one rail, roll across and down to the rail again to leave a shot at the 8 ball. No one has a ball, and chances of making more than one are slim, maybe not any. If you get the 9 ball around your pocket, chances are your opponent will deal with it instead of the 8 ball.terhje said:
PS; on the first option it's hard for your opponent to shoot the 15 as you have opened up the 5 ball, there is no kiss on the 9 ball bank and even though you're jacked up your gonna hit it harder and could possibly bump the 1 or 6 ball toward your pocket,
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I think I would kick around the stack two rails to the eight, making sure that I do not go long. If I fall short and do not contact the eight first it's ok. If I lose a ball so be it.
My main objective to to minimize his chances of getting me back to the other side of the stack.
My main objective to to minimize his chances of getting me back to the other side of the stack.
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