What was the Worst "Good" Stick You've Hit With ?

The Saw said:
Originally Posted by The Saw
Paul Mottey... It's not just one of his cues that turned me off, I've tried three different ones. All of them were great looking cues but had a hit and feel like that Hathaway Broom that Jay's talking about in the Earls cue thread....

Saw



When I've offered my opinion on Mottey's I get the same reaction most of the time... But the three cues were all built in different periods 5 years apart. They all had a "dead stick" feel to them.

Saw
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I am not gonna bash you. We are ALL entitled to our opinions. I was just saying that what you said shocked me.

I am not listing the cue maker that I think has the worst hit because they are a member here and I know someone will throw a fit about it.

Cheers
 
I'm with you on not giving the name of the worst cue I ever hit with....The reason being that everyone like's a different feel or hit....It could be the tip, the taper, the weight balance, or a number of things. I have tried someone else's cue who insisted I hit with it because they loved it and I didn't like the hit at all...I love my cue but I bet not everyone else does...Some would. Some wouldn't.....
I bowled for 25 years and loved Columbia and Hammer bowling balls. Two of my teammates loved Ebonite and Brunswick...I couldn't figure out how they could like those brand of balls and they felt the same way of my choices...
The old , you like chocolate and I like strawberry milk shakes...To each his own...
Cue makers work hard and some with little reward...I wouldn't want to influence someone else from buying a cue just because I didn't like the way it hit......
 
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The one that surprises me is McDaniel cues, because many people talk about how great they hit, and some pros have even played with them. To me, they give zero feel and hit like a 58 inch length of rebar. I have tried three of them, and they were all just like that.

Meucci's hit like a wet noodle, but I did hit with a real old one that was pretty decent and not whippy at all.

I was not real impressed with the couple of Richard Black cues I have hit with.
 
BPG24 said:
I am not gonna bash you. We are ALL entitled to our opinions. I was just saying that what you said shocked me.

I am not listing the cue maker that I think has the worst hit because they are a member here and I know someone will throw a fit about it.

Cheers
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This is America,come on and out the guy,its only your opinion remember and if you get hung,stoned,or shot i will go down in flames with you. :D
 
I'd have to say the (3) Jerry Olivier's I owned back in the late 90's ... The workmanship and materials seemed to be first-rate, but I could never get used to playing with any of them ... I can't really "put my finger" on any one issue, but they just didn't play well for ME ... Sold them all at a slight profit and never considered buying another ... The local players who bought those (3) still play with and rave about their Olivier's ... ???
 
Fast Lenny said:
This is America,come on and out the guy,its only your opinion remember and if you get hung,stoned,or shot i will go down in flames with you. :D
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LOL

This forum isn't America. In fact it's far from it, so i will keep it to myself for now.

I will say that Mottey/White ivory jointed cues are in my top 3 of BEST hitting cues :p
 
Good Old Cheep stick

stikapos said:
Hey Folks. I am so appreciative to all of you for supporting the "killing stroke" thread as even if some of the stuff was repetitive for some, I've sure some newcomers benefitted from the exercise. By the time you get to my age, any repetition is good (hehehe..).

Here's another question for you all. What was the worst "good" stick you've hit with ?? These days, its becoming clearer that the workmanship going into even the least expensive production cues is getting better and better. So, that being the case, and knowing full well that such issues are tremendously subjective and subject to the skill of the indian, what is the worst cue you've hit with that others thought was "good" ?

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One of the best sticks I ever played with besides my Schon was a Action Sneeky Pete. Man that thing hit good and was only about 20 bucks.
 
The Saw said:
Originally Posted by The Saw
Paul Mottey... It's not just one of his cues that turned me off, I've tried three different ones. All of them were great looking cues but had a hit and feel like that Hathaway Broom that Jay's talking about in the Earls cue thread....

Saw



When I've offered my opinion on Mottey's I get the same reaction most of the time... But the three cues were all built in different periods 5 years apart. They all had a "dead stick" feel to them.

Saw
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You are scaring me now for real....all I ever wanted was a fancy ebony wood ivory jointed Mottey. But having never hit with one...just too skeptical to shell out the bucks.
And on the other hand I cant put down this 300.00 ugly but beautiful to me "Deano cue"
 
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Subjectively speaking.............for me a cue "hits good" when the contact doesn't get my attention and is not distracting, annoying or harsh.

I've had two Richard Black cues and was ecstatic to get rid of them. I knew his cues had the rep of being inconsistent from cue to cue so after getting rid of the first, I picked up a second and it was also a huge dissapointment.

Had & have numerous cues that hit and played great (Rick Howards, Jensens, Benders (my favorite) ) but three cues stick out as complete & pleasant surprises (picked them up on trades or Ebay)....

Ted Harris unbelievably smooth hit with a great taper on the shaft
Sheldon LeBow best kept secret for guys that like great playing cues
Al Romero my player (one of only three cues I will not ever sell)
 
I don't know if it would qualify as a "good cue". Obviously it doesn't in my book. But I have one of the Model NR-09 Fury cues and it sucks. At first, I thought it was just the tip, so I switched it out to a good quality layered tip. It still hits like crap. JMHO.

It's a good thing I won it in a raffle and didn't pay anything for it.
It is worth exactly what I paid for it.
 
This is surprising !

leehayes said:
I have to say that the most disapointing cue that I got was a Darrin Hill with ivory joints and ferrules. $2400 cue I paid $1400 for...did'nt like the playability at all. Gorgeous cue...but the hit isn't what I like.
By the way..anyone interested in a Darrin Hill?
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I am surprised that the Hill doesn't play GREAT(mine sure does). Darrin is well known for building a great player that's very consistent. What about it doesn't play well? I bet he would work with you to try and fix it. From what I hear He is a stand up guy, and for that kind of money I'd try to fix the hit.

I hope you've tried the obvious tip and/or ferrule change. I am always amazed at how much of a difference a new tip can make. Even among the same brand, layered or not, sometimes a tip will not play well. You could also dump the Ivory ferrules. They are NOT for everyone.

Please tell me what is wrong with the playabilty. Is there a pad? what tip is on there now? Size of the shafts?

Otherwise I'll give you $50.00 for it ;)
 
BPG24 said:
LOL

This forum isn't America. In fact it's far from it, so i will keep it to myself for now.

I will say that Mottey/White ivory jointed cues are in my top 3 of BEST hitting cues :p
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That said, could you name the other two, please ?
Thanks in advance,
tim
 
ugotactionTX said:
I am surprised that the Hill doesn't play GREAT(mine sure does). Darrin is well known for building a great player that's very consistent. What about it doesn't play well? I bet he would work with you to try and fix it. From what I hear He is a stand up guy, and for that kind of money I'd try to fix the hit.

I hope you've tried the obvious tip and/or ferrule change. I am always amazed at how much of a difference a new tip can make. Even among the same brand, layered or not, sometimes a tip will not play well. You could also dump the Ivory ferrules. They are NOT for everyone.

Please tell me what is wrong with the playabilty. Is there a pad? what tip is on there now? Size of the shafts?

Otherwise I'll give you $50.00 for it ;)
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Now that's funny! Good one!
 
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I bought a sneaky pete from them in 99 for 175 hated the taper and the hollow feel I lost a 100 to a guy less than a week later and ask if he wanted the cue instead thank god he took it. The best cue is the Filipino cue I have now when I went to the Qylimpics one of the vendors praised the feel and woods.When I told him it was from the PI he said he wouldn't buy one because they were junk. P.S. If anyone would like to try an OMEGA/DPK sneaky I have one for sale because I am not a collector.Once I decided I liked my player to much it went back on the market if I don't use it every day I don't need it.
 
The absolute best hitting cues I"ve ever handled are jerry olivier's. I've played with several, from high end with 6 points and nice inlays to low end sneaky petes and while they all feel a little different, they all play awesome. The worst "good" I've ever played with is Jensen. I've had 3 and all of em were crap. two with stainless joints and one wood to wood. 3/8 10
 
I'll name only one here...because I'm not hurting any current cue maker. That, and the fact I doubt I'll ever sell it, since I'v had it since the early 1970's, and that's my name under the clear plastic.

Yep...my palmer model "M", second catalog. It hits like I was playing with a length of galvanized pipe...but then, ALL cues hit on the stiff side...
 
A friend of mine in Houston bought a Richard Black with 7 shafts. Pretty cue.

He let me hit with it and I kept trading shafts out hoping to find one that didn't hit like a cracked broom stick. Worst vibration and deadest feel I ever felt in a cue.

I've hit with a few others over the years. Same result.

The people that have them, love 'em though. Just not for me.

Stones
 
I had a cue made where I requested an Ivor-X ferrule/Triangle tip combination, but I just could never get used to it. So, instead of selling the cue, I had both the tip and ferrule changed, shaft slightly retapered, and it played like a totally different cue.
 
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