What would happen if someone were to break Mosconi's record of 526?

[DelaWho???]

My guess is that whoever breaks the record with pocket more than 526...

To the public at large, in a slow news cycle it might get the last 15 seconds of a local news broadcast where it happend. Aside from that it won't raise any more eyebrows than a fart in a hurricane....

 

[Jadssons]

The person that broke the record would have to be tested for perfomance enhancing drugs and if tested positive, there would be an * beside their name in the record books.

 

[JB Cases]

What would happen?
Would anyone care?
Would ESPN cover the story?
Would Sports Illustrated cover the story?
Would there be a resurgance in 14.1 because it was in the national sports news?

No one outside of hardcore pool fanatics cares.

 

[pdcue]

Mosconi worked for Brunswick, Brunswick had control of the BCA. Same thing. As far as the rest of your statement, learn a little history. Sorry if your hero isn't the hero you thought he was. He was a great player, no doubt about it. But others have run more balls than he has. As far as the "during an exhibition" stuff, how many were even doing any exhibitions back then??

How full of it are you really?

I am sorry if reality isn't what you want it to be. You are just another
little nit who whishes Mosconi wasn't as good as he was.

1. was Brunswick too long to type?

2. Sorry, he's far from my hero, I'm just not such a twit I need to
tear him down because he had the nerve to be born a long time ago.

3. I know much more of the history than you do.

Willie ran 300 plus on a 5 x 10 with 4 1/2 inch pockets

in a 'practice' run, he was in the high 600s, with a perfect
break shot, and quit because supper was ready

4. the 'huge' pocket lie: have you talked to someone who played
hundreds of games on the table the record was set on. Do you
know why he played on that table instead of the 4 1/2 x 9?

You're still clueless as to why his run is the record. And have no idea
why so many people spent a lifetime knocking him.

I understand you are allergic to facts - but try learning a few
and work on being a bit less gullible.

Dale(who is considering telling how he really feels)

 

[Neil]

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[Mr Hoppe]

There would be no ESPN coverage, and no SI coverage. I would NOT say that pool is dead and/or that nobody would care. I think there would be a slight 14.1 resurgence among those familiar with the game, but not because of any national media exposure. 14.1 is still quite popular in Europe, but not so much here in the states. I will say that I personally find it the most difficult game to play of any on a pool table. I don't know why, you would think it would be rather easy...

 

[Mr Hoppe]

As far as I'm concerned, Willie doesn't hold the record. The "official" record was nothing more than a publicity move by the BCA for their paid employee. To me, the record is simply who ran the most and how many was it? 526 has been topped a number of times.

If a tree falls and hits you on the head, does it not count because there weren't 50 people there to see it from start to finish? When was the last time you had 50 people from start to finish at a 14.1 event? It's ridiculous that they all have to be there from start to finish. The fact that you have a bunch of people watching, at various times some leave and others come in, and at the end you don't have anyone that was there at the beginning. No one saw any misses, but it doesn't count because they weren't there the whole time.

I'd be willing to bet that the ONLY person that saw all 526 shots of Willies was Willie himself. I don't believe that no one ever looked away for a single shot at something else or didn't doze off or go to the restroom.

The BCA wanted their man to hold the record, and discounted any one else that beat it. Records should be on what someone did, not on who or how many saw it.

IMO, this is WAY off the mark. A stretch at best.

 

[church66]

6.55am - 5 to 7am - 527

If it happened at 6.55am or 5 to 7am : 527.Now that would be spooky.

 

[KRJ]

Sorry if your hero isn't the hero you thought he was. He was a great player, no doubt about it. But others have run more balls than he has. As far as the "during an exhibition" stuff, how many were even doing any exhibitions back then??

Well, he actually is, and he was not a great player, but one of the best ever. I would not care if someone ran 1000 balls, cause they would never match his run at the top of the pool world... what did he win, 15 consecutive world straight pool titles..... yeah, I don't really believe Moconi and the BCA had to "defraud" the public to show how great he was.... and if someone ran more.... good for them.... it certainly does not put them in Mosconi's class.... means they had a very good day, Mosconi had a hall of fame career...... just saying...

 

[Neil]

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[ironman]

Are you sure it wasn't also a communist plot?

Mosconi was an employee of the BCA - when did you make that one up?

The rest of your fantasy is equally far fetched.

Pop quiz - why is Willie's record the one recognized?

I know you don't understand why.

Dale

Why is it recognized? What if someone tied it on a 9 foot table?

 

[OTB]

None of the above...........

You might get ESPN2 maybe....the billiard mags would right 1 report then the national or someone whould have them speak at there event then the interest goes away, I seen it happen with bowling, a young man shoots 900 for the first time in history, no real interest after a few months, couple of advertisments thats it...........not alot of interest in the billliard world about records being surpassed.......Its sad that the sport is not coverd more.. most people could not tell you what the current record is......OTB:frown:

 

[metallicane]

I would think ESPN would get the person in the Top 10 of the week.

 

[classiccues]

Wouldn't even be a blip. A run of that magnitude can only be attained in practice, or exhibition. So as previously stated who would watch a person practice for that long? All the other runs mentioned don't mean a thing because no one can document them. Even if one was video taped, there would be the accusation of an edit.

Someone would need to put out flyers saying that on xxxxx date I will plan to break Mosconis 526 record. Come and watch me try it. So now you have an audience, maybe an accustats or tar broadcast. Now its all on record, so now if it is achieved it can be verified.

Its a shame this record cannot be done in a competitive format. Its very similar to the home run derby during the all star game. Great to watch, great to romance about, but doesn't mean a thing outside of putting your name on it.

What makes the record good for pool is that it was done by the most recognizable name in pool at the time. No offense to anyone else, but really, how many players today, if they got the record, would be known outside of pool? You know who would have to do it now, and the only chance the public could attach a face to the record? Jeanette Lee.

JV

 

[barboxbanks]

The more that I think about it, is this a record you would want to see beaten?

 

[JB Cases]

The more that I think about it, is this a record you would want to see beaten?

Sure. Why not? Then we have a new one to talk about.

When Willie did it he was on the road every day playing exhibitions. He played 14.1 every single day and was the best player in the country at that game.

If someone were to do it today then it would be without the environment that Willie did it in. So without the constant experience factor it would be quite a feat in my opinion. Also it would probably come on tougher equipment and would thus eclipse Willie's run on that level as well.

I personally feel that Engert's 492 on a 9ft table in Germany was tougher than Willie's run as I understand them both.

But as fate and circumstance have it 526 is the magic number. Although I believe as do many others that it has been beaten many times by others. Just goes to show you that it's not always the best accomplishment that gets the accolades but instead the best WITNESSED and NOTARIZED one

 

[JoeyA]

More than likely, it would be the Billiard Magazines which would cover the event.

Unfortunately, ESPN would be running the other way when the pool player demanded his fee for sharing the footage.

There would be much noise about how the record was broken on equipment that was vastly different from that which Willie used and that the new record wasn't the same as Willie's record because of blah-blah-blah-blah.

To many of us it would mark a milestone in our pool lifetime.

 

[AtLarge]

... A run of that magnitude can only be attained in practice, or exhibition. ... Its a shame this record cannot be done in a competitive format. ...

Actually, Joe, it's possible for it to be done in competition. In recent years, we have had a number of events where the qualification portion (prior to one-on-one 14.1 games) involves individuals attempting high runs. There is no point or time limit on those runs, so it would be possible for someone to beat the record in that format.

I think we have also had tournaments where the winner of a game was allowed to keep going (to try for a high-run bonus) if he was on a run of at least x balls at the end of the game.

 

[sunnyday]

I know one thing for sure. If that record was broken during **BCAPL 14.1 Challenge**, the whole run will be on recored and that person will be $20,000.00 richer that instant!
There is a standing offer from Mark Griffin of CSI & Mr. Bob Jewett to award that person will be rewarded $10,000.00 from each!

S.G.

 

[classiccues]

Actually, Joe, it's possible for it to be done in competition. In recent years, we have had a number of events where the qualification portion (prior to one-on-one 14.1 games) involves individuals attempting high runs. There is no point or time limit on those runs, so it would be possible for someone to beat the record in that format.

I think we have also had tournaments where the winner of a game was allowed to keep going (to try for a high-run bonus) if he was on a run of at least x balls at the end of the game.

Well this isn't competition as in one on one. If you had a finals match with a game to 1000 then I buy it.

JV