Patrick Johnson said:
Patrick Johnson said:
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It is said that when the student is ready, the teacher will appear!Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
What would SAM do?
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It is said that when the student is ready, the teacher will appear!Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
LOL. I remembered today at work that I'd forgotten to do that, and even talked to Dave at the pool hall about it tonight. I guess "now" is a relative term!
"Now" I'm really going to PM you.
pj
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Patrick Johnson said:
I am answering this before reading the last couple of pages so maybe this has been addressed by someone else here who knows more about these details than I.
Here's what I did...I got out a adjustable protractor and did some experiments to develop my aiming method. You will quickly see that the aiming half ball doesn't give you a half ball hit. This is because the balls are round, I'm guessing.
I think a half ball aim is a 30 degree hit. If you do the experiments, you can verify that for yourself. And it isn't really necessary to memorize all that stuff. I just used my aiming method for about 3 months (I had played 40 years without it so it took a while for me) until I could just walk up to the table and say to myself, "left/left" and then go into my stance and bam! the sucker goes in!!! Love it.
To me, the best part about this aiming method is that it makes my job easier and therefore I can shoot a longer match without tiring so quickly. I've also done several other things to overcome aging problems but they'll have to wait for another thread.
Play well----and listen to these guys here....they know tons of good stuff.
Jeff Livingston
chefjeff said:
Chef-man,
To my knowledge, you are the first person to articulate this as a benefit of an aiming system. I think you are correct.
When I switched aiming systems about 2 months ago; I really liked the results. I knew I was playing better; and I just felt better about the game. I really didn't think about it in detail; but after reading your post it is obvious - the aiming system has definitely made it easier to focus (less "grinding" during the aiming process leaves more time for assuring a good stroke every shot) during those long straight pool games (my games usually last 3 to 5 hours).
Now,,,,what else do you have for us geezers???
speed pool
this has been my biggest gain using sam,
when you can recognize the angle as a DEAD sam 3,
or 4 or w/e it is, there's only adding or subtracting
if side spin is needed.
I don't use sam for all shots, just 95% of them.
it's amazing how often you'll land on a sam 3 or 4
on purpose to move the cb around the table.
sam is easy to use, easy to teach and easy to
make adjustments on, however, it may not be
easy to see the value initially.
-cOOp
pj,
I'm sure you won't be disappointed.
this has been my biggest gain using sam,
when you can recognize the angle as a DEAD sam 3,
or 4 or w/e it is, there's only adding or subtracting
if side spin is needed.
I don't use sam for all shots, just 95% of them.
it's amazing how often you'll land on a sam 3 or 4
on purpose to move the cb around the table.
sam is easy to use, easy to teach and easy to
make adjustments on, however, it may not be
easy to see the value initially.
-cOOp
pj,
I'm sure you won't be disappointed.
Williebetmore said:
Well, there are always unintended consequences it seems and my aiming system has one: When I don't have to focus as much on aiming, I sometimes tend to not focus as much on the rest of the shot, too. That is, the whole shot becomes easier and instead of changing my focus to something else, it diminishes somewhat overall when I don't have to work as hard.
It is kinda like retirement....You think you're gonna work at this and that, do this and that with all the time in the world. But, suddenly your day fills up with stuff and the next thing you know, it's time for bed. Where did the day go? Where did your time management skills go? Without survival pressures, focus can retire, too.
So, your post leads me to perhaps my creating/changing an ingredient in my shot designed to take the energy "saved" and redirect it to another part of my shot that needs it rather than just enjoying the ease of aiming more effeciently. If I have the focus, I'll ponder that.
Williebetmore said:
A nap.
I'm sure those items will come up in another thread someday.Jeff Livingston
After reading these and many other posts related to these ideas I tried to figure out what bothers me about many of these discussions and I think I found it.
If someone is going to criticize a system they should first thoroughly understand the sytem. They should know its strengths and then determine its weaknesses. This would make for a useful review from which we can all learn.
The people who find fault without knowing the system are often as irritating as the zealots who do not take the time to learn the limits of their approach and merely sing the praises and advertise for some secret endeavor that they should keep to themselves.
So I concluded to myself, if the person does not know what they are talking about or does not have the ability to see the good and the bad in their ideas then I will not spend time reading what they have to say.
If someone is going to criticize a system they should first thoroughly understand the sytem. They should know its strengths and then determine its weaknesses. This would make for a useful review from which we can all learn.
The people who find fault without knowing the system are often as irritating as the zealots who do not take the time to learn the limits of their approach and merely sing the praises and advertise for some secret endeavor that they should keep to themselves.
So I concluded to myself, if the person does not know what they are talking about or does not have the ability to see the good and the bad in their ideas then I will not spend time reading what they have to say.
JoeW said:
Joe, one problem with this approach is that you have to read the stuff first to decide whether to read it!
And the other problem is that if you apply the rule strickly, there would be VERY LITTLE to read on this or any other forum. Sort of reminds me of Right Speech as it is defined in the 8-fold path of Buddhism. If you restrict yourself to Right Speech (and refrain from lying, divisive speech, abusive speech, and from idle chatter), most of us would have almost nothing to say!
BillPorter said:Joe, one problem with this approach is that you have to read the stuff first to decide whether to read it!
Isn't that the truth and the world would be a better place
I have learned to pickup a book / DVD or whatever, read the first few pages and discard if there is little of use. I am learning to do that ith forums as well.
Many years ago I learned that there are very few workshops I want to attend. If the person has something to say I wold rather have the written version, read that and come back with questions. Saved me lots of money in continuing education costs.
Before some one jumps on me, yeah, I am a university professor who thinks that much of what we do in the classroom is bs Any more when I teach, teach for ten minutes and then explore the issues for 20 minutes. None-the-less students do not read the book before coming to class. I guess forums are not much different
JoeW said:
That's true Joe, but I don't think a lot of the criticism is really out of line. I've tried to ask genuine questions about claims that seemingly defy the laws of physics, but have been mostly unsuccessful in getting any clear answers. I've realized the futility of these aiming threads, but as long as I'm on here I may not be able to resist commenting on something that seems out of whack to me.
Part of the benefit of this forum is the BS-meter for people making claims about systems, products or anything else related to pool.
I've been involved in many of these aiming threads over the years (mostly at RSB), and while they're all more heat than information, I always get something from each one, learning a little more than I knew before - and I assume that's true of other readers too. I guess that's a sign that such info is hard to come by.
pj
chgo
Joe, you said it better than I could
The obvious contradiction in your two posts shown here reveals why so many of the reviews and so much of the discussion on forums is of little value.
Hu
JoeW said:
The obvious contradiction in your two posts shown here reveals why so many of the reviews and so much of the discussion on forums is of little value.
Hu
If SAM is a supplemental aiming system, what is the main one???
ah ha
therein lies the secret....
muahahahahaha
j/k
JoeyInCali said:
therein lies the secret....
muahahahahaha
j/k
K, thanks.randyg said:
JoeyInCali said:
in my case, luck.