What would you do here??
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Saying that only the edge is visible is extremely vague. The race, table type, etc...all those details aren't much use when the angle of the shot is not clear. Sure, one could argue to thin the ball safe or tie up another ball, but in all honesty, I don't see how anyone can make a realistic assessment of this shot based on the diagram provided.
Oh hell, I'll start, and give everyone a chance to rip this admitted GUESS apart. 
You say I can only see the edge of the one? If that's the case, there isn't much that I can see to do, other than merely trying to play safe, which in and of itself wouldn't be easy. So to play along, I'll say you try to combo the 1 - 4, leaving the 1 part way up the end rail. Then 1 to top left corner, and so on.
I'm not certain this could work, but it's all I can see to do.
Looking forward to seeing what the real answer is!
Thanks again for these Neil.
You say I can only see the edge of the one? If that's the case, there isn't much that I can see to do, other than merely trying to play safe, which in and of itself wouldn't be easy. So to play along, I'll say you try to combo the 1 - 4, leaving the 1 part way up the end rail. Then 1 to top left corner, and so on.
I'm not certain this could work, but it's all I can see to do.
Looking forward to seeing what the real answer is!
Thanks again for these Neil.
I must say I agree with Nathan...
Neil;
It is tough based on the diagram to assess what to do here. The way it's laying it almost looks like the one ball can be hit very full, even with a small cut available toward the corner pocket. If that is the case, then we could consider throwing the one in with spin.
That doesn't square, though, with wat you describe in your scenario as you indicate that we can only see an edge of the one.
A little more clarification is needed.
Best,
Brian kc
Neil;
It is tough based on the diagram to assess what to do here. The way it's laying it almost looks like the one ball can be hit very full, even with a small cut available toward the corner pocket. If that is the case, then we could consider throwing the one in with spin.
That doesn't square, though, with wat you describe in your scenario as you indicate that we can only see an edge of the one.
A little more clarification is needed.
Best,
Brian kc
The way the cuetable is drawn, I can get enough of the 1B to play the obvious safe. In the situation described, nothing looks better to me.
+1 to Mosconiacs idea. If you aren't comfortable trying to leave the cue ball behind the 4 time it so you leave it behind the 3 on the bank. Doing the kick on the left rail spells disaster with the scratch.
The only other option I see if you don't think your opponent can run out is to tie up balls and give ball in hand....probably not recommended with him being on the hill and you being down big.
If you feel you have to go for it you will probably have to reverse bank hard and hope to get lucky in a combo in the corner.
The only other option I see if you don't think your opponent can run out is to tie up balls and give ball in hand....probably not recommended with him being on the hill and you being down big.
If you feel you have to go for it you will probably have to reverse bank hard and hope to get lucky in a combo in the corner.
In all fairness, seeing the left "half" is a big difference than seeing only the edge of the 1. I get their point. Can you see enough to execute the safety that was described or make the 1-4 combo? If not, I would kick the 1 off the side rail with draw and try to stick the cue while sending the 1 up table for hopefully a hook.
I like mosconiac's safe the best.... after that, considering other options, if you can see enough of the 1 to combo into the 4 ball, that would be a tough combo, but possible... finally, not mentioned yet would be a long masse/swerve around the three to cut the 1 into the corner, though high risk.
Tough call. The problem I see with Mosconiac's suggestion is that you have to put draw on the CB to avoid the scratch. That requires speed which IMO won't allow you to hide the CB behind the 4. So I think the play is to do this shot and hit into the 4 to stop the CB. You're utilizing the 3 as a blocker, and perhaps you'll get another blocker down table. Worst case on this scenario still allows distance to be your friend here.
Sure, a good player can swerve and catch the right side of the 1, but letting whitey fly with running english? nah.
Get that one ball in a different county is my play (that is until Neil pulls a rabbit outta his arse again :wink: )
Sure, a good player can swerve and catch the right side of the 1, but letting whitey fly with running english? nah.
Get that one ball in a different county is my play (that is until Neil pulls a rabbit outta his arse again
:wink: )
I'm Neil's ghost writer
Ok, here's what I did. I did a jump masse draw with reverse psychology and a bit of the mamba twirl. I made the combo'd 4 and the 1 caromed off the 4, and went 2 rails into the lower side. As I went to the bar to fetch a diet mountain dew, the CB proceed to juice off the end rail making the 2 into the side, whereupon afterwards the CB's Bohemian follow juice took hold and rolled the nine into the upper right corner.
The balls, replete with new found life racked themselves and the CB, which was so excited to have found perpetual energy, smacked the nuggets off the rack and the 9 went into 3 different pockets simultaneously. Game, set, match.
Hey, it's all I had. I'm surprised you guys didn't see that this was the only play.
And of course, I got the girl too. 3 of 'em actually.
Yours truly,
Neil
:grin-square:
Ok, here's what I did. I did a jump masse draw with reverse psychology and a bit of the mamba twirl. I made the combo'd 4 and the 1 caromed off the 4, and went 2 rails into the lower side. As I went to the bar to fetch a diet mountain dew, the CB proceed to juice off the end rail making the 2 into the side, whereupon afterwards the CB's Bohemian follow juice took hold and rolled the nine into the upper right corner.
The balls, replete with new found life racked themselves and the CB, which was so excited to have found perpetual energy, smacked the nuggets off the rack and the 9 went into 3 different pockets simultaneously. Game, set, match.
Hey, it's all I had. I'm surprised you guys didn't see that this was the only play.
And of course, I got the girl too. 3 of 'em actually.
Yours truly,
Neil
:grin-square:
O.Kay,.... I apologize for not being clearer.In reality though, while you technically can see most of the left half of the one, once you are down shooting, you want to make darn sure you clear the 3. That gives you even less of the one that you can see. AND...... when you are down 4-1, and facing this, and you see so bad you can't even read the numbers on the ball, then yes, it looks like you can only see the edge of the one!:wink:
Looking at the diagram, it looks like you could throw the 1 ball in with some soft right. Assuming thats impossible, I like Mosconiacs safety best. This option is the only other safety I can think of(stop shot on the 1 ball). I dont like the combo, that'd be my last choice.
Nuh Uh Bambu, not so fast. You missed where Neil mentioned you are blind in one eye and can't see out of the other. :grin-square:
Kick Safety
I would use some left English and kick at it hopefully stopping the cueball and sending the 1 down to where the 5 & 8 is.
I would use some left English and kick at it hopefully stopping the cueball and sending the 1 down to where the 5 & 8 is.
Pepsi it is
I can't even imagine you drinking a Mountain Dew.
When I was still working at the pool room and seen you coming to the counter I would automatically get you a small Pepsi.
Steve
I can't even imagine you drinking a Mountain Dew.
When I was still working at the pool room and seen you coming to the counter I would automatically get you a small Pepsi.
Steve
I like Mosconiac's shot here. I think it could be pulled off with low right and the correct speed.
Of course with my touch, I would have a little too much juice on the cb and it would come out from behind the 4. Then the 1 ball would carum off the far side of the 8 and sit right in front of the 9.
The way that 1 is contacting the 4, it looks as if there would be a good chance of making the 4 in the corner. If you hide the 1 from yourself and make the 4, then you're stuck with a tough shot again.