It never hit 3rd rail before contact with 2nd ball, to further clarify.
What would You do?
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It doesn't mash the nose but it clearly grazed the face of the cushion and changed direction.
It didn’t. It is kind of interesting that we are watching the same video and seeing different things. There is always a gap between the nose of the cushion and the spinning ( wobbling/ rolling off) ball.
Here's what I'll do, with You or Anyone in this thread.
I'll Bet a Minimum of $500.00 USD on this statement!
"A UMB Referee 'Can Not inform/Advise' the Shooter that they are about to 'Shoot the Wrong Ball'!
"The Opponent, if He chooses 'May or May Not' inform the player before He shoots!"
Any takers?
Granted the ref had the exact worst vantage point and shooter was right over the shot but the ref awarded the point a second time after watching the replay.
Who won the match? I'll go by that.
Who won the match? I'll go by that.
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I think it depends on the team, but I have seen several times when someone is shooting at the wrong ball, there would be literally a chorus of players saying "Hey, hey, hey!" to try to stop them before they shot LOL. I think if it came from my oppenent's team I would not have the heart to call them out on coaching, although I may say that it would count as their timeout.
I see what you see as far as the nose goes, There is also a clear rebound at the yellow.
Watched the ball carefully there is no shadow on the cushion when the ball changes direction as there is when it comes to rest.
That the ball changed direction anyway make me think forgery.
When.
It isn't clear whether you are saying the cb got 3 rails before contacting the third ball.
It did not.
Would you not bet that's not not how it was originally written or not?
After watching it carefully, I see the most instantaneous of possible contact which would be 3 of course BUT there is no ball shadow under the cushion until the ball comes to rest. So you are correct or it is doctored. Fact is the ball is stable as a top. There is no wobble, just a magical change of direction.
Me too.
You are Not Really saying anything!
Post Exactly what You believe what the rule is re: shooting wrong ball in UMB 3C rules.
You may get Your way!
I know the OP is talking about 3C, but I've had this happen in pool a few times, shooting at the wrong OB. I've been on both sides of it. A couple times I kept my mouth shut and then called foul. A couple times I've said "stop, you're shooting the wrong ball". Both scenarios have also happened to me when I was the shooter shooting at the wrong ball.
Today (and probably the past 15 years), I'd tell my opponent they're on the wrong ball. When I called the fouls, I was much younger.
In the finals of a 3C world championship, I would probably still inform my opponent. Unless there is some obscure rule in the unsportsmanlike conduct section that prevents an opponent from doing anything that would "lessen his chances to win".
I wouldn't fault either decision by the player in the chair. Both decisions are valid, IMO.
Today (and probably the past 15 years), I'd tell my opponent they're on the wrong ball. When I called the fouls, I was much younger.
In the finals of a 3C world championship, I would probably still inform my opponent. Unless there is some obscure rule in the unsportsmanlike conduct section that prevents an opponent from doing anything that would "lessen his chances to win".
I wouldn't fault either decision by the player in the chair. Both decisions are valid, IMO.
Thats definitely true.
I recall one 9 ball match playing Ewa on tour. She broke, made a ball and then missed. I thought it was the 1 ball that she made on the break and I zeroed right in on the 2 when I got to the table. I was wrong. The 1 was in plain sight of the cb, about 2 feet away, and I was still looking at the 2. I even had to kick at the 2, measured it, etc. I missed the kick on the 2 but the cb hit the 1 instead and a cushion, so no foul. I walked off as if I meant it but I could see the confused looks on the spectators who were wondering why I didn't just hit the 1 ball directly instead of kick at it.
It didn't disturb me in the least that she didn't tell me I was shooting at the wrong ball. I wouldn't have told her either. That was the correct thing for her to do. There was no referee at our table.
It didn't disturb me in the least that she didn't tell me I was shooting at the wrong ball. I wouldn't have told her either. That was the correct thing for her to do. There was no referee at our table.
NO...There is a referee there to do a job. In this situation, other people may be counting on you to do your best to WIN.
In World 3C events it's Not to Help a player!