What's the highest unfinished run you've seen?

> On the subject of Johnny's 200,it actually came to 201,and he missed ON PURPOSE.

Carswell Ransome has told many over the years that someone told Mosconi that his 526 has been bested by Mike Eufemia's 654,which no one saw all of,so he ran a 589 and missed,and followed that up with a 609 that he just quit on. That's almost 1200 in 2 innings.

There was a story about Babe Cranfield running an unfinished 768 at home.

Now that I think of it,I can't remember seeing anyone run 100 or more and NOT finish with a miss or a safe,but here in my little area of Tennessee,running 100 with witnesses would get you in the newspaper,LOL. Tommy D.
 
526 on a 4x8 isnt that great. i mean its great but if you give john or thorsten or ralf a 4x8 and a month there will be a 500.

see disclaimer below...

hey dave,,,if it isnt that great why dont you do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
You're nuts Dave... 500 on anything is fantastic. If players could beat mosconi's record by just switching to a smaller table, I think someone would have tried. Maybe someone should talk JS into finding a nice 4x8 and see if he wants to give it a whack.

With a smaller table comes the tradeoff of smaller pockets, more clusters, less room to maneuver and the requirement for tighter position. I can't guarantee that the tradeoff doesn't still favor the shooter a little bit... but I think JS once said that when you start getting into the really big numbers like 300+, you are going to need some luck in addition to fantastic shooting skills. You need to not get stuck time and time again after every break, and never get too straight. You need to make a tough combo or bank that you don't hit 100% (and maybe not even 50%). You gotta make those ugly backward cuts where the OB travels all the way from the rack area to the far corner or those sharp side pocket shots where you're jacked up over the full rack and can't bridge properly. And sometimes you just need to get blessed with a dead one when faced with nothing to shoot at.

I don't believe there's a route to 500+ balls that doesn't involve the player getting some rolls in addition to shooting as perfectly as a human being can shoot.
 
PoolBum...That's the affadavit I was talking about (and the one I saw in a display at the room). Nowhere does it say he missed after 526. The people at East High Billiards were the ones who said that he just quit (supposedly he was tired and hungry...no small wonder after running about 35 racks of balls), and it was backed up by a local newspaper article, that was posted with the affadavit.

Scott Lee

I see, it was the newspaper article that said he just quit, not the affidavit. I wouldn't be surprised if that was after they interviewed him. I don't believe Mosconi would quit a run like that before it was over.

Why do you think in his autobiography it says that he missed? Why would anyone ever say that he missed, let alone Mosconi himself, if in fact he didn't?
 
I see, it was the newspaper article that said he just quit, not the affidavit. I wouldn't be surprised if that was after they interviewed him. I don't believe Mosconi would quit a run like that before it was over.

Why do you think in his autobiography it says that he missed? Why would anyone ever say that he missed, let alone Mosconi himself, if in fact he didn't?

you might have to ask Mosconi,, why are you worried about it. i do not worry about what other people do,
 
I see, it was the newspaper article that said he just quit, not the affidavit. I wouldn't be surprised if that was after they interviewed him. I don't believe Mosconi would quit a run like that before it was over.

Why do you think in his autobiography it says that he missed? Why would anyone ever say that he missed, let alone Mosconi himself, if in fact he didn't?


You're right, the autobiography says he missed because he did miss. I think they say it wasn't until the late 60's or early 70's that Mosconi started saying he quit without missing, before that he always said that he missed to end the run.
 
"With a smaller table comes the tradeoff of smaller pockets"

I wasn't in the room whem Mosconi ran the 526 like the 1000's that said they were there (like Woodstock). But from people I know or trust that saw the table he ran the 526 on, all say the pockets were huge. Johnnyt
 
I will tell you guys something that is interesting.I met Flora (Willies wife) and his son in Atlantic City about 4 years ago where Charles Ursitti was the ref for a challenge match with Loree Jon and Jeanette Lee.My girlfriend and I at the time were there and had great seats right next to Flora and Jr.,I asked her one question as I did not want to be a pest and it was what happened to end the 526 run,she replied he got tired and stopped.She was a very nice lady and all class,she gave me a magazine from Jersey that just had run a story of Willie in it,will treasure it forever. :smile:
 
It all started on Mt. Mitchell. Elevation is over 6000 feet. I started the trail at a dead run only to later die out and not finish. I didn't miss anything that I can remember. I just quit. That's me. Just quit.

It's actually over 6600 feet. What the heck does this have to do with pool, anyway?
 
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I've witnessed a 125-out unfinished run in a Finnish ranking event final years ago. And no, it wasn't done by Mika :) I've managed to make only 74-out unfinished in tournament play...
 
I've witnessed Charlie Bryant run over 165, starting with a set-up break shot, and stop because he had to leave.

I don't know the exact number because he started before I got to the table and he wasn't keeping track of the rack count. I watched him run the last 165 of the run after I got done with what I was doing.

He thought he probably ran at least two or three racks before I starting watching it. That would put it around 190 - 210 or so (unfinished).

This happened in 2006.
 
When I was at the University of Miami, Nick Varner came in for an exhibition. He played our champ in a race to 150. Nick ran 150 and out and asked the crowd if they wanted him to keep going or see trick shots. Well, trick shots won out and the run was stopped. I was bummed because you could really tell that he was in stroke and playing great. Nick even said that in 1981 he was playing about as good as he ever played.
 
Mosconi had exactly the personality to quit unfinished. He gave up pool several times in his life--came to dislike the game. Golf was his love and he was a scratch player. so who cares--the record is still his.
 
Mosconi had exactly the personality to quit unfinished. He gave up pool several times in his life--came to dislike the game. Golf was his love and he was a scratch player. so who cares--the record is still his.

Yes he was that type of person. I never knew he played golf though. I watched him run 125 and out against a young up and commer. His name was Richie Florence, who lost with a -2 to his credit.

Mine is an unfinished 113 and out in tournament play. Gambling is 9 racks of nine ball, the guy, Louie Roberts, wanted weight and I refused so we quit. Last time I ever saw him. I really like Louie, always a fun guy to match up with.

Rod
 
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