There is a 5x10 pool table with very tight pockets at House of Lords in Hicksville, NY on Long Island. They play a lot of Golf on that table.
Where are the 10 footers?
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gulfportdoc said:
Well, a few years after WWII anyway. If my memory serves me correctly, I believe Willie told me that pro tournaments used 10' tables up to 1949, then switched to 9' starting in 1950. Most pool halls however, DID NOT use 10' tables because of space constraints, except for the really big rooms, so other than pro events, there probably weren't as many 10's out there as you might think. I also remember him telling me that pro players in the south didn't shoot on 10's either, and that is why pro events were rarely if ever held in the south prior to 1949-50. I imagine that also had something to do with the swith to 9' tables.
I think an equally interesting question would be which custom table makers will currently make you a 10 footer.
I suspect Diamond might do it at a HUGE premium.
I suspect Diamond might do it at a HUGE premium.
The Amsterdam Billiard Club that was on the east side had one for about a year. It was beautiful but with normal size pockets and it wasn't used it much. Many of the regulars said if it was small pocket they would play on it. ABC eventually got rid of it.
I thought it was a nice try that just didn't work. I was very surprised.
I thought it was a nice try that just didn't work. I was very surprised.
BackPocket9Ball said:
There's another one on Long Island, out East somewhere, I think the name of the place is ABC Billiards. I play there sometimes when I'm in the states and like playing on the 10' for an hour or so.
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My Ten Foot Table!
Well here is the story. about 3 or 4 years ago I searched Ebay for antique tables and found one 10 footer in florida and road down only to return empty handed because the table was a wreck. So, I kept looking and found one in Providence Rhode Island and road up to look at the table in persons. Below is the fruits of that labor! Hope you guys enjoy the pictures.
I got some info from the antique shop I bought from and from the Brunswick Historian Joe Newell and he said as well as the antique dealer the table came out of an old pool room and was a one of a kind specialty table made for pool rooms! He had never seen one like it and believes the tiger oak is stained with some special red ox blood or something if memory serves me correct? can't remember!!
I got it home and had the rubber cushions replaced, pockets redone by hood leather and put on new brass rossettes and put the old ones into storage if I ever want to put the brass ones back on that turned dark brown to give it that really old look!
Other than one shipping nick the seller caused in shipping, it is in prestine condition and based on how hard the rubber was the table saw no play and was never moved until recently!
Sincerely,
Kid
Dynomite
Well here is the story. about 3 or 4 years ago I searched Ebay for antique tables and found one 10 footer in florida and road down only to return empty handed because the table was a wreck. So, I kept looking and found one in Providence Rhode Island and road up to look at the table in persons. Below is the fruits of that labor! Hope you guys enjoy the pictures.
I got some info from the antique shop I bought from and from the Brunswick Historian Joe Newell and he said as well as the antique dealer the table came out of an old pool room and was a one of a kind specialty table made for pool rooms! He had never seen one like it and believes the tiger oak is stained with some special red ox blood or something if memory serves me correct? can't remember!!
I got it home and had the rubber cushions replaced, pockets redone by hood leather and put on new brass rossettes and put the old ones into storage if I ever want to put the brass ones back on that turned dark brown to give it that really old look!
Other than one shipping nick the seller caused in shipping, it is in prestine condition and based on how hard the rubber was the table saw no play and was never moved until recently!
Sincerely,
Kid
Dynomite
Rebco Billiard Faire in Clovis, CA had a beautiful 10 footer. I don't if it was reconditioned or made new at their manufacturing division. When I saw it I immediately asked the counter guy if I could play on it. He said, "sorry, it's for the local 'A' players". Trying anything, I said, "but I'm a visiting 'A' player"! Again, he said,"I'm sorry, it's the rules". Not willing to give up I said, "don't you know who I am!??" Still, no dice. I'm sure the counter guy thought I would give in and play on the 9 footers but I didn't. I let him know he queered his business with me and I wouldn't be back. Now whenever I'm in the Fresno area I will only play in the other 3 rooms in town.
Horror story
When I first moved to Vegas back in early '70's...I used to hang out in a little pool room near downtown called "Malners". They had a repair man who traveled the state repairing and recovering tables.
He brought in to the shop ... "the first pool table that came to the State of Nevada".
Old paperwork was accumilated and stated it was brought around the Horn of South America by ship from New York back in the 1800's...then across the mountains from San Francisco by wagon into Goldfield, Nevada.
It was a 10 footer .. complete with bullet holes, axe chops, and knife carvings.
The current owner of the table requested that Malners, cut it down into an 8 foot table for his home !!! They tried for some time to talk him out of the refinishing, offered him a 'NEW" modern 8 foot home table...all to no avail.
They took many photos and did the job. I tried for some time just to get a photo but they closed up and everything went away.
What a shame!
When I first moved to Vegas back in early '70's...I used to hang out in a little pool room near downtown called "Malners". They had a repair man who traveled the state repairing and recovering tables.
He brought in to the shop ... "the first pool table that came to the State of Nevada".
Old paperwork was accumilated and stated it was brought around the Horn of South America by ship from New York back in the 1800's...then across the mountains from San Francisco by wagon into Goldfield, Nevada.
It was a 10 footer .. complete with bullet holes, axe chops, and knife carvings.
The current owner of the table requested that Malners, cut it down into an 8 foot table for his home !!! They tried for some time to talk him out of the refinishing, offered him a 'NEW" modern 8 foot home table...all to no avail.
They took many photos and did the job. I tried for some time just to get a photo but they closed up and everything went away.
What a shame!
pdcue said:
Thanks for the compliment! The rails were confirmed to be Braziliian Rosewood by Tony Scanelli of Black Boar. A couple of ivory diamonds were cracked and TOny made me new ones when I brought a sample rail by the shop to show him.
The slate on this puppy is 2 inches thick and weight 600 pounds a piece. It was a pain moving it in but well worth it after all the famous players that stop by and hit some from time to time and the enjoyment I get practing.
This one is not a conversion table. The table has the accruate and original pocket irons! it truely is rare!
Sincerely,
Kid
Dynomite
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What a great table, Kid D.!! Y'all did a top flight restoration on it. It looks like the corner pockets might be 5 inches, which would still look small from 10' away! You really acquired some great antique accessories as well. I see many of the pool balls are the old "mud" balls. They play almost like ivory. You might consider getting some new resin pool balls for everyday use. They'll last longer, and that way you won't risk cracking the older balls. Those are nice pictures!Kid Dynomite said:
Doc
gulfportdoc said:
Thanks Doc, the pockets are 4 1/2 inches the facing is cut a little different then new tables with k66 cushions this had to have k55 cushions if memory serves me correct. I did not shim the table at the time because the family and friends would play on it and they are not at the level for 4 1/4 just yet! So, I left it! I really regret that decision now! It is getting a little to easy! Only problem I have is, the new pockets spit out balls from time to time. It is something with the way the leather has not stretched.
I have a set of new arimith pro tv balls with the sick cue ball. you know the one with the chicken pots! Ha Ha HA!!!!! Thats whats on the table now! you just dont see them in the pockets. Plus, if you hit with mud balls they play much different!!!!!! I can not play with them! I do not know anyone that can??? it is a good 4 to 5 ball difference in your game!
Sincerely,
kid
dynomite
trying to remember details
There was a small hall with nothing but ten footers in it that survived into the early 1970's. I played there a few times. Seems like maybe six to ten tables. Slow cloth and no AC. Fans and doors open alongside the Mississippi river. The first few shots were quite a surprise.
Ten or fifteen years ago I heard the hall was no more but I don't know if I can even find where it was to confirm that. It would be like hitting the motherlode to find the building and tables still there.
Hu
There was a small hall with nothing but ten footers in it that survived into the early 1970's. I played there a few times. Seems like maybe six to ten tables. Slow cloth and no AC. Fans and doors open alongside the Mississippi river. The first few shots were quite a surprise.
Ten or fifteen years ago I heard the hall was no more but I don't know if I can even find where it was to confirm that. It would be like hitting the motherlode to find the building and tables still there.
Hu