Where does Mike Dechaine rank

[u12armresl]

Oh is that all that needs to be done? Pack up and head to about the furthest point in the country to play?

Sure you don't want to meet up in Key West or somewhere else equally non central?

and neither of them are in the same league as Mike.

There is one person born in this country that can spot Mike playing 9ball or 10ball on a big table. There are several that can play him even and it could go either way. There are 20 or so that would need a small spot from him to get there. That's it. End of story. Anyone who feels different can bring their local hero to Snookers in RI and lose your lunch money. #fact

 

[Kickin' Chicken]

Set it up, no weight, and you can stake Mike in every state.

In case you missed it.

okay, let's start.

ME, NH, RI, NJ, DE, NM, ND, MT, & WY.

who will Mike be playing, where, when, and for how much?

best,
brian kc

 

[JBB2388]

Top 5 easy. Likely top 2 behind Shane IMO but he is far and away #1 on the list of top d-bags in the sport.

 

[gxman]

I was watching him and Jeremy Sossei on stream yesterday. Dechaine's rack checking is ridiculous and way out of hand.

 

[CreeDo]

Those are tournament stats. A shortstop can pattern rack and make the wing ball and runout at a higher percentage than Mikes stats that you posted. Mike will beat the ghost every time playing that and that would mean he is breaking and running atleast 50%. Those stats dont mean a thing

?! wtf.

Those stats mean everything. They are black-and-white facts that allow us to separate
false impressions and made-up bs (the 1-out? really?) from cold, hard reality.

This is what Mike performs like under pressure, over the course of multiple events,
ranging from local tour stops, to turning stone, to Ultimate 10-ball.

First of all, beating the ghost doesn't mean you break and run better than 50% of your racks.
It means you runout better than 50% with ball-in-hand, and even if you break dry.
Hello?

Let a shortstop play on a variety of tables, with no magic rack, break from the box,
and no ball-in-hand after the break... in other words, let him play under the same conditions
mike was, but WITHOUT the tournament pressure. He's not going to top those stats.

Pros don't break and run 80% over the long haul Nobody does.
I don't care if it's corey deuel on his favorite table with a magic rack and he just snorted 500 mg of adderall.
The US Open average, back in the day before anyone cared about the rack, was 20%.
Shane hits 40% in 9 ball. Nobody is doubling shane's runout rate.

 

[sjm]

To me, the real test is gambling! And when I say gambling, I'm talking your own money! Don't get me wrong, tournament play is a critical aspect of one's ability, but the true test of a players heart is in the gambling on his own!

Being fortunate to have played for decent $$$, backed and my own, (mind you, I'm only a B player) the true test is gambling with your own money! This is just my opinion, with that said, I don't believe Mike is top 5! Maybe top 10 he's a great player, but it doesn't matter when it doesn't matter! I'm a great player too, when it doesn't matter, but it's when YOUR money is on the line when the true you comes out

Mike has many inner demons that will continue to haunt him. He will be one of those players that had the ability and the chance to make a REAL name for himself, but in the end, it will be his rather large head that gets in his way! It's too bad, because the kid has got the talent, no doubt about that. But he just doesn't have that little extra something that will make him great! He will always be just good!

What a clueless post. Mike plays brilliantly whether he's playing in a tournament or gambling with his own money.

He bet it up high at the Derby on his own dime. He gave Ruslan Chinakhov, who came fourth in the Derby City nine ball, the seven ball and got the money.

Mike's results speak for themselves in both tournament play and in action. The haters have done a great job in continually discrediting this proven superstar of American pool, but it's all a lot of baloney.

 

[rackemup20]

What a clueless post. Mike plays brilliantly whether he's playing in a tournament or gambling with his own money.

He bet it up high at the Derby on his own dime. He gave Ruslan Chinakhov, who came fourth in the Derby City nine ball, the seven ball and got the money.

Mike's results speak for themselves in both tournament play and in action. The haters have done a great job in continually discrediting this proven superstar of American pool, but it's all a lot of baloney.

You think he bet that match on his own dime? I know first hand he did not bet his own money. I wouldn't go that far as saying he is a superstar Is he a great player yes but if he ever matures an stops whining an crying all the time then maybe he will be a superstar

 

[sjm]

You think he bet that match on his own dime? I know first hand he did not bet his own money. I wouldn't go that far as saying he is a superstar Is he a great player yes but if he ever matures an stops whining an crying all the time then maybe he will be a superstar

If he's not a superstar, then neither is any other American not named Shane.

Incidentally, even though Mike is a great money player, I don't buy into your notion that action defines the man. It never has and it never will in pro pool. That's why it's never considered when hall of fame nominations and elections come along. Pool excellence is defined by one's performance in events in which all the elite participate. Want to find out who the best players are? Put them all in the same place at the same time and find out which of them lasts the longest. Among the Americans, one thing is for sure. Most of the time, when you do this in rotation games, everyone but Shane has ample opportunity to watch Dechaine if they care to, since they are nearly always eliminated before he is.

Among the Americans, who but Mike has beaten Shane in nine ball twice in the Derby City Classic? Of course, as a confirmed hater, I'm sure you'll find a way to trivialize those wins, too.

I don't know who you think plays better than Mike among the Americans, but of these guys, there is only one, and the results make it so that it couldn't be more obvious.

 

[bruinsfan]

?! wtf.

Those stats mean everything. They are black-and-white facts that allow us to separate
false impressions and made-up bs (the 1-out? really?) from cold, hard reality.

This is what Mike performs like under pressure, over the course of multiple events,
ranging from local tour stops, to turning stone, to Ultimate 10-ball.

First of all, beating the ghost doesn't mean you break and run better than 50% of your racks.
It means you runout better than 50% with ball-in-hand, and even if you break dry.
Hello?

Let a shortstop play on a variety of tables, with no magic rack, break from the box,
and no ball-in-hand after the break... in other words, let him play under the same conditions
mike was, but WITHOUT the tournament pressure. He's not going to top those stats.

Pros don't break and run 80% over the long haul Nobody does.
I don't care if it's corey deuel on his favorite table with a magic rack and he just snorted 500 mg of adderall.
The US Open average, back in the day before anyone cared about the rack, was 20%.
Shane hits 40% in 9 ball. Nobody is doubling shane's runout rate.

please stop embarrising yourself with these stats! Never once did i say that mike can double shanes runout % consitently.I simply said mike gave another pro the 1 out and won the cash. This is a fact I watched the match along with 50+ other spectators mikes break and run % was around 80% he beat him 5-1 and 5-2 im no math wiz but if i had to guess that is around 80%

 

[nine_ball6970]

If he's not a superstar, then neither is any other American not named Shane.

Incidentally, even though Mike is a great money player, I don't buy into your notion that action defines the man. It never has and it never will in pro pool. That's why it's never considered when hall of fame nominations and elections come along. Pool excellence is defined by one's performance in events in which all the elite participate. Want to find out who the best players are? Put them all in the same place at the same time and find out which of them lasts the longest. Among the Americans, one thing is for sure. Most of the time, when you do this in rotation games, everyone but Shane has ample opportunity to watch Dechaine if they care to, since they are nearly always eliminated before he is.

Among the Americans, who but Mike has beaten Shane in nine ball twice in the Derby City Classic? Of course, as a confirmed hater, I'm sure you'll find a way to trivialize those wins, too.

I don't know who you think plays better than Mike among the Americans, but of these guys, there is only one, and the results make it so that it couldn't be more obvious.

Just wondering where the information for the attached image came from. Pagulayun won DCC 9 ball in 2013. Shane tied for 4th with Brumback. Is everything else on there correct?

 

[hang-the-9]

please stop embarrising yourself with these stats! Never once did i say that mike can double shanes runout % consitently.I simply said mike gave another pro the 1 out and won the cash. This is a fact I watched the match along with 50+ other spectators mikes break and run % was around 80% he beat him 5-1 and 5-2 im no math wiz but if i had to guess that is around 80%

Just because he beat him 10-3 in two sets does not mean that he broke and ran all those racks. Your math is his win/loss racks. Unless you did not mean to write what you actually wrote or when Mike won his games he broke and ran all of them. I think you are mixing up how many games broke and ran vs how many games overall mike won.

Now if you said he won 5-1 and 5-2 and broke and ran 8 of those 10 racks, that is an 80% BnR rating. If you say he won 10 of 13 games played, that is a about a 80% win to loss rating. NOT how many racks he broke and ran. 10 or 13 is 78% BTW

 

[CreeDo]

please stop embarrising yourself with these stats! Never once did i say that mike can double shanes runout % consitently.I simply said mike gave another pro the 1 out and won the cash. This is a fact I watched the match along with 50+ other spectators mikes break and run % was around 80% he beat him 5-1 and 5-2 im no math wiz but if i had to guess that is around 80%

haha I actually feel a little embarrassed for you.
You're saying mike gave a "pro" the 1-out. Do you understand that some local hero
who beats everyone at your pool room is not the same thing as a pro?

Mike is not going to give an actual pool professional player the one out,
unless it's for like 50 bucks and he just wants to screw with the guy's head.
Since 50 people saw it, why not just say the name of this player?

I'm not even arguing that mike is not a very strong player, he's one of our best.
You just have a crazy idea of what's normal for a strong player.
80% runout rate is not normal. It's a fluke based on looking at just 13 racks.
The pool-trax stats are based on hundreds of racks.

 

[robsnotes4u]

After watching Shane today

After watching Shane play Nick today, if Shane and Dechaine were on an oval track, Shane would be so far ahead that Dechaine would think he himself was in first.

Wow.

Dechaine can beat Shane in a short race in a tourney, any pro can. Make it along race and the Class Ass' big head would explode

 

[sjm]

After watching Shane play Nick today, if Shane and Dechaine were on an oval track, Shane would be so far ahead that Dechaine would think he himself was in first.

Wow.

Dechaine can beat Shane in a short race in a tourney, any pro can.

Yes, Mike can and has on several occasions, but the statement any pro can is false. As a group, Americans not named Mike Dechaine almost never beat Shane, and no player other than Mike beat Shane at the Derby this year in a rotation game event.

 

[liakos]

What a clueless post. Mike plays brilliantly whether he's playing in a tournament or gambling with his own money.

He bet it up high at the Derby on his own dime. He gave Ruslan Chinakhov, who came fourth in the Derby City nine ball, the seven ball and got the money.

Mike's results speak for themselves in both tournament play and in action. The haters have done a great job in continually discrediting this proven superstar of American pool, but it's all a lot of baloney.

Lol, so, who has the clueless post look, I never said Mike is not one of the best! Just because I hate the kid and want to see him get run over by a train twice(only kidding!!!)! I simply said he needs to put the effort in! The guy is classless, and I have every right to say this because I've seen him in action! So whether you like it or not, it's too bad! let me say it like this( maybe this will make you happy) I truly believe that if Mike was to pit the same dedication that shane has put in,, then maybe Mike could play better than Shane!! Bit the hard reality is that he won't! And I don't blame him

So back to your first statement, clueless post,,, how much has Mike gambled on his own??? Answer,3k, out of his own mouth, watch tar podcast! I've gambled2k of my own,,,that's a lot, but it really isn't!! Until I see a number of 10k,, then it's not a lot!! Sorry if you disagree, but you do have your right to your opinion!

I would truly love to root for my home player,,, but when that person is a genuine }ick, then I hope he loses!

 

[liakos]

After watching Shane play Nick today, if Shane and Dechaine were on an oval track, Shane would be so far ahead that Dechaine would think he himself was in first.

Wow.

Dechaine can beat Shane in a short race in a tourney, any pro can. Make it along race and the Class Ass' big head would explode

This is something that people here really don't understand! Well said, to the point!

 

[sjm]

Just wondering where the information for the attached image came from. Pagulayun won DCC 9 ball in 2013. Shane tied for 4th with Brumback. Is everything else on there correct?

Yes, it is. Thanks for the correction. As you've noted, in the 2013 DCC, it was Dechaine over Shane in quarterfinal, then Alex beat Mike 9-8 and then Alex beat Putnam, who had drawn the bye into the final. Chart corrected.

 

[bruinsfan]

Just because he beat him 10-3 in two sets does not mean that he broke and ran all those racks. Your math is his win/loss racks. Unless you did not mean to write what you actually wrote or when Mike won his games he broke and ran all of them. I think you are mixing up how many games broke and ran vs how many games overall mike won.

Now if you said he won 5-1 and 5-2 and broke and ran 8 of those 10 racks, that is an 80% BnR rating. If you say he won 10 of 13 games played, that is a about a 80% win to loss rating. NOT how many racks he broke and ran. 10 or 13 is 78% BTW

Yes they were break and runs the opposing player was getting all the balls

 

[sjm]

Lol, so, who has the clueless post look, I never said Mike is not one of the best!

Actually, you have.

Mike has many inner demons that will continue to haunt him. He will be one of those players that had the ability and the chance to make a REAL name for himself, but in the end, it will be his rather large head that gets in his way! It's too bad, because the kid has got the talent, no doubt about that. But he just doesn't have that little extra something that will make him great! He will always be just good!

The implication in your comments is that Mike has not already achieved great things. He has dominated the Joss tour for three years now and routinely posts top 10 finishes in the American events having the most elite fields.

Other than Shane, nobody's resume is shinier among the American men in recent years. Obviously, Mike is not in Shane's class, but Mike has continually outachieved all other American players in rotation pool events. You don't seem very impressed by it. If you don't feel that the second best American based on results in elite field events is great, it is a very sad statement you are making about American pool.

Also, whether you choose to root for Mike is your business and says nothing of his pedigree and his continual success, including winning the last three Joss tour events over the past three weeks. You should root for your favorites, for that's what makes sweating the matches fun.

 

[liakos]

Actually, you have.



The implication in your comments is that Mike has not already achieved great things. He has dominated the Joss tour for three years now and routinely posts top 10 finishes in the American events having the most elite fields.

Other than Shane, nobody's resume is shinier among the American men in recent years. Obviously, Mike is not in Shane's class, but Mike has continually outachieved all other American players in rotation pool events. You don't seem very impressed by it. If you don't feel that the second best American based on results in elite field events is great, it is a very sad statement you are making about American pool.

Also, whether you choose to root for Mike is your business and says nothing of his pedigree and his continual success, including winning the last three Joss tour events over the past three weeks. You should root for your favorites, for that's what makes sweating the matches fun.

Very good you got me! Your right, I'm wrong! Sorry Mr. Dechaine, your truly one the greatest players ever! Please forgive me, I totally forgot that races to 9 show a players greatness! Again, I totally forgot that the only game is 9-ball and that truly is the test of how great a player is! Again, I'm sorry!