where you look on the break

billychips said:
I usually hit the cue ball in the middle of the 3. If there is only one cue ball, I am sober, and therefore not breaking much anyway.

Since you might not have been sober Billy when you posted that poor dog's pic without a tail, I thought I'd better show you what a real pointing dog's tail is supposed to look like :D ;) ...Tom
 
billychips said:
Now thats some funny shit, the part about you being a good player!!!

I knew sooner or later someone would get a kick out of it..... It's not saying much but you still have the 7 for life! I myself thought the 3 ball thing was even funnier.

Saw
 
:thumbup:
Scott Lee said:
Craig...That is not quite true. There are several times when you may look at the CB last...the break being one of them. Others include kick shots, jump shots, and masse' shots.

To the OP...many top players look at the CB last when they break.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

Thanks for the correction, but that is how I was taught to play 35 years ago. I know there are other ways to approach the shots outlined above, however, each person must find their individual comfort zone, and that can't be taught. I was very fortunate to have had a World Class player teach me how to break, and to use the only aiming system I have ever used. It has served me very well for many years, and recently I have shaken the dust off my stroke and started playing again. Because of these facts it really was not that difficult to start playing again either, and that was mainly due to what I was taught years ago. In the end if you know what to do and know how to check yourself it's no different than riding a Bike, with a little practice!!!!!!!!:thumbup:

Take care
 
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real bartram said:
when i break i look at the cue ball last. do any of the good players do this?

Cue ball last seems to make the break more controlled for me so as to not fly off the table or scratch as much. IMO

Dwight
 
manwon...Excellent analogy!:D The amazing thing, is that even if you don't ride a bike for 50 years, you can still RIDE it...even with no practice! Having a repeatable process, on the pool table, is exactly the same!

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

manwon said:
In the end if you know what to do and know how to check yourself it's no different than riding a Bike, with a little practice!!!!!!!!:thumbup:
 
Head ball last for me. I don't stroke the break as well if I look at the CB, perhaps because on all my other shots I look at the OB last, and so that's what I'm comfortable with. I'm only a B player at best, but I do have a pretty good break.

-Andrew
 
manwon said:
Breaking is the only time that you can look at the cue ball last, on any other shot your eyes must be focused on the object ball when you contact the cue ball. However, once you have aimed the shot and completely grooved your stroke, if you are more comfortable you can look at the cue ball last if that gives you more confidence. I have tought people to do this because it gives them the confidents to hit the cue ball harder and get more control after contact.

However, when I break I look at the object ball last just like any other shot.

Take Care

Yea, I'm with you. For consitency sake. I have to look at the object ball i'm going to hit on the break
 
manwon:
Breaking is the only time that you can look at the cue ball last, on any other shot your eyes must be focused on the object ball when you contact the cue ball.

Scott:
Craig...That is not quite true. There are several times when you may look at the CB last...the break being one of them. Others include kick shots, jump shots, and masse' shots.

Yes, and even more: shots jacked up on the rail or over another ball, for instance - in general, any shot that exaggerates the effect of an offcenter hit (breaks, jacked up shots and kicks, for instance).

pj
chgo
 
eezbank said:
i look at the light reflection on the head ball in the rack. then i line the center of the CB at the light. then never take my eye off the cue ball.

I started doing the same thing and my break has improved a great deal.

I also started aiming my jumpshots using light reflection on the cueball and im pocketing a lot more jump shots.
 
I wonder how many people didn't notice who the OP was when they commented on being a "good player" :)

I look at the cue ball last, fwiw.
 
Patrick Johnson said:
How does that work?

pj
chgo

line up light reflection on cue ball with edge of object ball, jack up to 45 degrees or whatever the jump requires. Your tip should be pointing at the light reflection, then parallel over to center. Not exactly sure how or why it works, but its been working pretty well for me.
 
cyrex said:
And he indeed confirms that he looks at the cue ball LAST before the break. But he does not do that on his regular shots. They mentioned that he can do that because his fundamentals are so precise that he can get away with that.
no way I want to hi-jack the thread, it is about break shot and not any other, but I believe Ralf does always look at cb last. Not because he can relax that much but because it is his routine. I used to play the same when I learnt that "object ball last" is a proper way to do. I tried to change and then I learnt Souquet plays the same way.
Look here for instance:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=184221&postcount=2
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=184576&postcount=31
and finally
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=184736&postcount=39
Hope that is enough to see that Ralf actually always looks at the cb last.
 
I look at the cue ball last. CB - you could give me the 3 out and it would be a tight game lol

BVal
 
I use a side break, hitting the second ball for 8 ball, and doing so I always look at the spot on the 2nd ball I want to hit. But even when I am shooinh 9 or 10 ball, I look at the head ball, not the cue ball. I set up my break shot, look where I want to hit, and trust my stoke to deliver the correct hit on the cue ball.
 
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