Which aiming system you use and why?

[8pack]

You really need to listen to what he is saying.
Fran Crimi even advocates it.
Try practicing just using your right brain.
See the shot , shoot it.
The shot includes pocketing the ball and controlling whitey of course.
See the shot picture, shoot it .

When pros like CJ or Reggie Miller or John Elway get in the "zone", they are really in the unconscious state . They visualize the shots/plays, then execute.

When there in the zone they still use what got them there, the recall is just faster.

That's like saying Shane disregards his system now that he can just see it which wrong as hell. Why would someone use something and get good at and then disregard it?? Thats what you guys are saying. They just get where they see it...lol Its way more then that.

Dont make sense.


Stan pockets the ball as good as anyone..you think he does something different??? No..his foundation is built off his previous knowledge and his added knowledge and I guarantee that foundation will never change know matter how you guys try to twist it up.

 

[lfigueroa]

You dont get it.

I understand what you're saying and your psr is part of it.

Pool hasn't nothing other to do with expect pool, period.
A person must connect to the shot ( the ob and pocket angle) so he can determine the shot line, you dont just see it... not at first anyways.

Comparing other sports...throwing a ball..whatever to pool is a crockpot of shit.

It’s the way it is.

I look at the shot, get into shooting position, and shoot. I’m just seeing the OB and my tip against the CB. Easy peasy.

Lou Figueroa

 

[lfigueroa]

CJ Wiley agrees with Lou. https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=511064
John Scmidt talked about a baseball player throwing the ball too.
And , I don't like Lou.

aw, shoot.

Lou Figueroa

 

[lfigueroa]

You can believe all what these guys tell you but one thing we all share is some kinda connection to the pocket angle. Who cares how its done just as long as you can get there. If I place you or anyone else at a table covered by a curtain and you had know Ideal where the pocket was your ability to just see it wouldn't work ...why? You've lost the first part of creating the first perception.

Trying to help here and anyone claiming to just see it like I said is..full of crap.

Who's CJ Wiley and John Smith??? Lol I could care less . Im about my game ...they aint.

Ignorance must be bliss.

Lou Figueroa

 

[lfigueroa]

Stan has stated this is a visual game...I agree with this Man 100 percent. We create perceptions with are eyes and the body follows...again he is right. Placement with the body for the eyes is key. No one gets around this.

I could put a video of me running rack after rack on here and you guys probably would say [if you didn't know who I was ]he just seeing the ball...using his right part of his brain[ who comes up with this shit anyway?] Followed by a bingo and be good with it.

If your the type of player that tries to just walk up and see it ...good luck with that. And we haven't even touch on the English part of it.

English, draw, follow, being jacked up on the rail all gets factored in.

Then you just get down and shoot.

Lou Figueroa

 

[8pack]

It’s the way it is.

I look at the shot, get into shooting position, and shoot. I’m just seeing the OB and my tip against the CB. Easy peasy.

Lou Figueroa

Good for you. Not only do you shoot like a champ your talk is right up there to.
I'll make sure I pay attention everything you say .

 

[8pack]

Ignorance must be bliss.

Lou Figueroa

Yes it is.

 

[8pack]

All you million ball hitters explain your feel sytem that requires know aiming.

 

[genomachino]

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Just telling it how it was. I've been in and out of the hospital with five major surgeries in the last 5 years. The last 2 were the heart and then lung surgery. been quiet for about 6 years. Time to tell the truth and go back to work. If it wasn't for this covid 19 I'd be on the road right now teaching up a storm. This is the one thing I know for sure will help you play better. I'm doing free lessons on skype with AZ players right now. Just read any of the testimonials. You won't have anyone say they don't understand it or it didn't help them. With Perfect Aim, my claim that it will cut your misses in half at any level is an underestimate. Take advantage of this offer, do the free skype lesson and you will see that it is exciting and not hardcore at all. Playing a better pool and right away is exciting for sure. I can't believe you haven't sent me a message yet for the:thumbup::yeah::yeah::help: free lesson?

 

[SpiderWebComm]

All you million ball hitters explain your feel sytem that requires know aiming.

Don't hold your breath for answers because it'll be a quick death.

 

[garczar]

All you million ball hitters explain your feel sytem that requires know aiming.

Or spelling.

 

[8pack]

Or spelling.

Yep....Dont know if its me just being not smart or just dont see what Im writing very well.
Gives me a laugh to see some of the things I write.. especially when Im drinking.

 

[8pack]

Don't hold your breath for answers because it'll be a quick death.

We beat Stan to death with questions, he always tried to answer. I ask these knuckle heads One thing...not a sound. Gonna found out we all use a method of some sort to aim.


Hope your doing well where your at...scary whats going on right now.

 

[Dan White]

All you million ball hitters explain your feel sytem that requires know aiming.

I think the HAMB method does require aiming, but it is done subconsciously. "Aiming" at that point is almost a matter or semantics.

I think what happens is that you look at the relationship between the cb and ob and the pocket. This positions you for the shot. When you get down on the shot you evaluate whether that cb/ob/pocket relationship looks correct. If so, then you execute the shot, sending the cb in the direction you have decided on. Or, another way to look at it is when you get down on the shot you don't necessarily decide if it looks right. You only have a conscious decision about it if it DOESN'T look right because if you've done everything properly up to now you should already be in the right position. In that scenario, all the decisions are subconscious because the whole procedure from first looking at the shot to executing it are done without needing to think about it. Only when you've done something wrong does the image of an incorrect alignment pop out at you and tap you on the shoulder, waking up your conscious thought that you've done something wrong.

 

[Dan White]

We beat Stan to death with questions, he always tried to answer. I ask these knuckle heads One thing...not a sound. Gonna found out we all use a method of some sort to aim.


Hope your doing well where your at...scary whats going on right now.

lol. Funniest post of the day, so far. You give the knuckle heads 8 hours over night after 10:30 pm to answer a question that you certainly already know the answer to and then complain about it. I posted my reply while you were posting yours.

 

[8pack]

I think the HAMB method does require aiming, but it is done subconsciously. "Aiming" at that point is almost a matter or semantics.

I think what happens is that you look at the relationship between the cb and ob and the pocket. This positions you for the shot. When you get down on the shot you evaluate whether that cb/ob/pocket relationship looks correct. If so, then you execute the shot, sending the cb in the direction you have decided on. Or, another way to look at it is when you get down on the shot you don't necessarily decide if it looks right. You only have a conscious decision about it if it DOESN'T look right because if you've done everything properly up to now you should already be in the right position. In that scenario, all the decisions are subconscious because the whole procedure from first looking at the shot to executing it are done without needing to think about it. Only when you've done something wrong does the image of an incorrect alignment pop out at you and tap you on the shoulder, waking up your conscious thought that you've done something wrong.

Sounds like your a ball to ball aimer which is a method of aimng. The more you do it the faster it becomes like any other system. See it shoot it isnt the bases of your first move. Also feel plays the a big part of every method..and thats not nothng new. Some say I aim by feel....really...we all do.

 

[8pack]

lol. Funniest post of the day, so far. You give the knuckle heads 8 hours over night after 10:30 pm to answer a question that you certainly already know the answer to and then complain about it. I posted my reply while you were posting yours.

But you guys live on here.

 

[Dan White]

Sounds like your a ball to ball aimer which is a method of aimng. The more you do it the faster it becomes like any other system. See it shoot it isnt the bases of your first move. Also feel plays the a big part of every method..and thats not nothng new. Some say I aim by feel....really...we all do.

My method is to stand in the spot where the relationship between the cb/ob/pocket "looks right." I'd say it is ghost ball, but knowing where to put the ghost ball is the part we are talking about. I don't actually imagine a ghost ball and try to replace it with the cue ball.

I think whether you call that aiming or playing by feel, or just "knowing" the shot is just semantics. I wouldn't kill me to say that everyone aims but I think it would be overkill to say everyone has an aiming "system."

 

[SpiderWebComm]

I think the HAMB method does require aiming, but it is done subconsciously. "Aiming" at that point is almost a matter or semantics.

I think what happens is that you look at the relationship between the cb and ob and the pocket. This positions you for the shot. When you get down on the shot you evaluate whether that cb/ob/pocket relationship looks correct. If so, then you execute the shot, sending the cb in the direction you have decided on. Or, another way to look at it is when you get down on the shot you don't necessarily decide if it looks right. You only have a conscious decision about it if it DOESN'T look right because if you've done everything properly up to now you should already be in the right position. In that scenario, all the decisions are subconscious because the whole procedure from first looking at the shot to executing it are done without needing to think about it. Only when you've done something wrong does the image of an incorrect alignment pop out at you and tap you on the shoulder, waking up your conscious thought that you've done something wrong.

I've done all of the above years ago. You don't even have to try to aim the more you drink because it is definitely subconscious and close to unconscious around 1 or 2am especially when the eyes start getting cross eyed.

If one has been playing for many years and hit their million balls, you'll outlast and beat the majority of pool players you come up against using that method. You don't want to do it against a really good player though.

Here's the problem I've had which nobody talks about but it occurs. The eyes don't see the same way every day and the brain doesn't work the way it should.

The eyes could be tired, they could be lazy, you might have your mind on work, something you have to do, being pissed because you and the girl friend or wife did battle with each other and you keep replaying it over and over like a broken record, a whole host of things.

At times I've gotten on the table even feeling great, nothing on the mind and started hitting balls around like a hack who plays once a week every two months.

Speed is off and the balls are being blasted too hard, the stroke is crooked. OBs miss the pocket by one or two balls with long shots and you can't see anything that looks right whether it's by feel OR with multi contact points or fractions to home in sharply.

That's what I don't want to have happen. Surely you've gone through this also.

 

[Dan White]

I've done all of the above years ago. You don't even have to try to aim the more you drink because it is definitely subconscious and close to unconscious around 1 or 2am especially when the eyes start getting cross eyed.

If one has been playing for many years and hit their million balls, you'll outlast and beat the majority of pool players you come up against using that method. You don't want to do it against a really good player though.

Here's the problem I've had which nobody talks about but it occurs. The eyes don't see the same way every day and the brain doesn't work the way it should.

The eyes could be tired, they could be lazy, you might have your mind on work, something you have to do, being pissed because you and the girl friend or wife did battle with each other and you keep replaying it over and over like a broken record, a whole host of things.

At times I've gotten on the table even feeling great, nothing on the mind and started hitting balls around like a hack who plays once a week every two months.

Speed is off and the balls are being blasted too hard, the stroke is crooked. OBs miss the pocket by one or two balls with long shots and you can't see anything that looks right whether it's by feel OR with multi contact points or fractions to home in sharply.

That's what I don't want to have happen. Surely you've gone through this also.

Everyone has good days and bad days but the difference between us is I believe the majority of those fluctuations in play are caused by stroke errors more than aiming errors. Nervousness in a pressure situation clearly impacts the stroke mechanics more than the aim. If you are nervous and miss a straight in shot it isn't because you couldn't see that the correct aim was a full ball hit.

What you are getting at without saying it is that CTE eliminates the problem of having your eyes not seeing right from day to day. That's why you said, "That's what I don't want to have happen." The problem with your logic is that if the eyes won't let you see what you normally do with ghost ball aiming, they won't let you see your two lines properly using CTE, either.