which are the most famous and largest cue brand in the US?

zooropa17 said:
how many brands does the owner of the 5280,action,scorpian have?can you list them out?what do you mean they are no longer made?
I think you are asking these questions in the wrong place. I doubt that the people here have any information on sales figures. If you really need this info, go to the BCA trade show in June in Vegas. Count the number of booths each of the cue companies has.

Dufferin is out of business, I believe, and Cuetec was mentioned earlier.
 
rackem said:
Dufferin was purchased by Cue and Case, Lucasi/Players. The equipment was shipped to China. Dufferins are now imported not out of business.

Does that mean they are made out of BamBoo instead of that awesome maple they used to use? :D
 
Bob Jewett said:
If you mean brands that the top 1% of pool players have heard of, you will get a different answer. I'd guess Cuetec is right up there due to their sponsorship of top pro players and their marketing. If you mean brands that are very highly regarded by that top 1%, you will get a different answer again. I think most of the people on this forum are in that top 1% or even 0.1%.

CueTec is not an American brand. Merely distributed in US by Imperial/JS Sales.
 
zooropa17 said:
which are the most famous and also sold many?mostly imported cues or the us made cue?can you list some brand and the approx :cool: quantity also?

McDermott, Viking, Schon, Meucci, Predator........................Tiger (soon to be) ;) .

Sorry, forgot about Joss.
 
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PROG8R said:
Does that mean they are made out of BamBoo instead of that awesome maple they used to use? :D
Have you even seen a bamboo made cue from China?this is a good idea,its elasticity will be better than the awsome maple.i think the brand should be named Panda:p
 
zooropa17 said:
which are the most famous and also sold many?mostly imported cues or the us made cue?can you list some brand and the approx :cool: quantity also?

Joss seems to be the only cue people around here have heard of that they'd cosider nice. everytime i pull out my gilbert i get some guy saying is that a joss. (oh yeah and they like to pronounce it Josh)
 
poolplayer2093 said:
Joss seems to be the only cue people around here have heard of that they'd cosider nice. everytime i pull out my gilbert i get some guy saying is that a joss. (oh yeah and they like to pronounce it Josh)

I met a guy one night, who asked me if my Dishaw was a Meucci.
 
I was talking to a guy the other night - he was playing with a Meucci and he kept telling me he wanted to get a Josh (Joss) or a Shawn (Schon). I was having to much fun listening to him talk to correct him. :)

BVal
 
Hard to tell what is what anymore

There are several companies in China that make so many cues under so many different names that is is difficult to determine who is who anymore. I would bet the number one seller of cues in America is a company no one has ever heard of. Like Shanghai Sporting Group. They will make 40 different brands of cues giving people the impression that 40 different companies are making them. In terms of genuine American made cues it would have to be a contest between Viking and McDermott. I would assume VIking because of their following here in the midwest....but you never know untill you see their numbers. Dufferin cues look like they are being made at the same factory as Lucasi. Probably just use different designs and put a different logo on them.
 
We have ten zillion dufferins locally too. Lucasi sounds so much fancier and nicer, I can't believe they even come from the same factory :P

We have "player" and "competition" noname-sounding brands all over as well.
 
CreeDo said:
We have ten zillion dufferins locally too. Lucasi sounds so much fancier and nicer, I can't believe they even come from the same factory :P

We have "player" and "competition" noname-sounding brands all over as well.
Fancier and nicer :D That's funny. The guy that owns Cue and Case the importer of Lucasi, Player, Rage and now Dufferin his last name is Lucas.
 
what a funny talk,i had thought the Lucasi came from the maker of Star wars,George Lucas.before i saw the cues,i think the ideas of designs are from the outside space of the Earth.or from the Mars:D
 
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Bob Jewett said:
I think you are asking these questions in the wrong place. I doubt that the people here have any information on sales figures. If you really need this info, go to the BCA trade show in June in Vegas. Count the number of booths each of the cue companies has.

Dufferin is out of business, I believe, and Cuetec was mentioned earlier.

The number of booths is not indicative of the sales a company has. Anyone who has access to enough money can buy booths. And anyone with money to burn can go broke on temporary real estate.

The number of booths a company has is generally a indicator of what they are trying to project.

While there are a few people here who do have some information on sales it isn't really prudent or relevant to discuss it here.

A good inidcator of sales however is to dig into the import figures at the US Customs website. There is a lot of interesting information that can be gleaned by looking at import/export figures.

As for which cues are most popular - Of the traditionally constructed cues Players/Lucasi are the most popular among the imports in the $80-$200 price range. This is because they have been the most successful at building brick and mortar dealerships around the country. Of the fiberglass/carbon fiber cues Cuetec is the most popular in the $100-200 price range. This is because they have been the most successful at attaining brand recognition among beginning pool players and also because they have a loyal network of dealers as Cue and Case does.

Of the American brands - Viking and Meucci are probably still the most recognizable and asked for. Viking because they manage to stay visible. Meucci because they were so very popular throughout the 80's and early 90's that they have retained a certain brand awareness that older players are passing to younger players.

For sales I would guess that Viking and McDermott are the top two US brands in the $150-$500 range.

For the $500 and up crowd - that belongs to Schon and Joss as the two most recognizable brands. For the $1000 plus it is widely diversified among the many, many, many, many small to midsized cuemakers in the USA.

Just my opinion though.

Lastly, if you do go to the BCA show all you will see is booths. People are not there. The BCA has lost all of it's value to exhibitors and visitors alike. So you will see a lot of empty booths and very few exhibitions and very little that is truly new and innovative. If you want to tie booth size to sales then the 50 booth mega-supplier block last year is the largest company in the billiard industry. And their most prominent item was..........

A bad copy of the BCA Rules and Records Book. There's a little twist of irony for you.
 
John Barton said:
A good inidcator of sales however is to dig into the import figures at the US Customs website. There is a lot of interesting information that can be gleaned by looking at import/export figures.
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good idea,i will look for informations there,just because a lot customers will say they are very big until i found they only sell on ebay.i will resend you one good cue for us market because i just finished most of my samples to customers,over 60pcs,last one was really poor.i only have an embony and birdeye maple cues now,but they are for my personal use.;)
 
I think

John's is pretty close to true. If you remember, the Men's tour was sponsored by Viking clear up until late 80's I believe, and advertised
as the world's most popular cue. Then McDermott took over sponsoring
the tour, and it became the most widely used cue.

Lots of Meucci's around late 60's, 70's, early 80's.

I really don't know when Joss started making lower end cues, all the ones
I saw back in the old days were $1,200 up. Lucasi's really started becoming quite popular in the 90's. (Buddy Hall endorsement)

For house cues, no one beat Dufferin's for a long time, then Valley started with some pretty good ones. I remember $100 Dufferin SP's around.
 
Well I don't have as much inside info as some but if you just look at ebay, there are more Mcdermott cues listed there than any other, also, if I go to most any cue dealer in my state, WA, I see more choices for a new Mcdermott cue than any other, and a lot of new players go with a mcdermott, they are inexpensive and for the most part play good. And then I see these, meucci-viking-joss-schon as far as quantity in that order
 
Of course Fury, Blaze and Sterling are the truly most popular brands on teh market! At least with the people who own them. And yes I sell these brands in case it's not obvious.

Seriously though, whoever can get on the shelves sells the most and it's the same for bread and cues. Retailers could care less what cues they sell as long as they can make a reasonable profit.

Right now, it's Lucasi/Players who has the most shelf space. In a few years it will be Fury/Blaze/Sterling as more players see the quality we offer and begin to demand it from their local stores.
 
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