Which rules don't you like?
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The rule I like least is that a one pocket player can pocket his opponent's game winnng ball and scratch but the ball pocketed into opponent's pocket doesn't count as a point for opponent. This leads to some truly bizarre strategy, including a shot I've seen a few times in which a player intentionally pockets opponent's game ball while sending the cue ball off the table.
I like that rule!sjm said:
Actually, the only rules I don't like are the APA 8-Ball rule mentioned above.
As for the one foul rule in 9-ball, I always figure it's just a game. The way it was before, that was just a different game. You're free to play any game you want. That game isn't as popular now, though. You may not find anyone to play.
I hate "3 fouls is loss of game" in 9-ball, Texas Express rules. Your opponent is already rewarded with ball-in-hand after each foul, and that should be enough.
sjm said:
I don't mind that rule at all, and in fact I don't dislike any of the rules. What bothers me the most are the variations of the rules in different regions, and the lack of acceptance for standardized rules. I have seen this result in some huge arguements over large amounts of money. As an example, what happens in low count handicapped 1-pocket game when both players winning balls are made during the same shot? While I know the "official" rule according to the BCA and WPBA, (shooter wins), depending on where you are, the rules could be way different. I have seen it played as a tie, shooter wins, shooter loses, and even as the first ball pocketed is the winning ball. Or what happens if in a 1-pocket game a player scratches and does not have any balls to spot, and all of the balls are in the kitchen? While this is a rare situation, the answer will vary wildly in different locations. Some places will allow the intentional push shot making the opponents game winning ball and spotting it, in order to leave the cueball low, and other places won't. I know that the rules should be agreed upon at the start of a match, but this is impractical for some of the more rare situations that come up in games like 1-pocket, and if everyone could just agree on standardized rules, these conflicts could be avoided.
I like returns for 14.1, but definitely prefer buckets for one-pocket.
Pushout said:
I have one philosophy--------I don't care what rules we play by as long as EVERYONE is playing by the SAME rules.
If I'm playing 9 ball with someone new, before the coin flip, I'll say "Texas Express, three foul rule in effect, right?"
During a match, nothing gets me upset like someone who plays and doesn't know or pleads ignorance about the rules or some joker who pulls a rule out that no one on the planet has ever heard of.
If I'm playing 9 ball with someone new, before the coin flip, I'll say "Texas Express, three foul rule in effect, right?"
During a match, nothing gets me upset like someone who plays and doesn't know or pleads ignorance about the rules or some joker who pulls a rule out that no one on the planet has ever heard of.
chefjeff said:
While the exact shot must be called, the bank must also be "clean", ie no caroms, kicks, or combos are allowed. It could cause some problems if combos and caroms were involved, but as it is, it is pretty obvious if a shot is good or not. This isn't to say that there couldn't be arguments, but in my experience, banks is one of the more straight forward games as far as the rules go.
While I don't know why this rule is in place for sure, I would assume that it is there to make it more of a game of skill, so that someone is not able to win by shitting in balls.
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I wish you had to call your pocket in 9 ball. It would make it a more skillfull game. Its really tuff too if you are spotting someone the 8, for instance, and they are just slamming balls around trying to "roll the cheese". Thats just not pool in my opinion...its BINGO!
Southpaw
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i never really played by the 3-foul rule in 9-ball. too many people try and use it to win games and thats just anoying. but as far as retarded rules, i think APA takes the cake with not allowing the use of different cues, ie: no seperate break cue, or jump cue. the cue you use to break is the cue you must use to finish out the game, and thats just silly.
Most rules are fine by me in all the games. I would really like to change nine ball by adding a rule.
If you hook yourself, no jump cue allowed. You can't get out of jail free. I think it's fair that if you are hooked by your opponent you can then use a jump cue, because it's his fault you can jump.
Now, if you call jump shot next before you hook yourself. Then someone could plan to use their jump cue and this should be permitted.
I do think it's fair at any time for someone to jump with the cue they have in their hands.
If you hook yourself, no jump cue allowed. You can't get out of jail free. I think it's fair that if you are hooked by your opponent you can then use a jump cue, because it's his fault you can jump.
Now, if you call jump shot next before you hook yourself. Then someone could plan to use their jump cue and this should be permitted.
I do think it's fair at any time for someone to jump with the cue they have in their hands.
Cel Phones.
Since so many cel phones have annoying rings or loud music coming out I think if your phone goes off during a match you forfeit that game. People are starting to call each other during play just to shark each other. Its way past annoying. Put your phones on vibrate people!
Since so many cel phones have annoying rings or loud music coming out I think if your phone goes off during a match you forfeit that game. People are starting to call each other during play just to shark each other. Its way past annoying. Put your phones on vibrate people!
desert1pocket said:
I've played other games with this "rule" and it caused nothing but trouble. Now maybe bankers are experienced enough that they know when a tick or hit or combo happens, but I'm guessing that a fast, hard bank could go in and none would see all of the details of the shot.
Do you have to call the number of rails if it rattles a pocket for example? Or if it touches the side of the pocket as it goes in? If not, why not? Aren;'t those banks, too? See, it's getting complicated. I don't see why this rule is in place as it just adds to the potential for trouble.
Jeff Livingston
chefjeff said:
I can't understand how it would be hard to tell if a bank was clean or not. If the pocketed ball is the only ball that moves, it was a clean shot. If there is a carom or combo involved, another ball will move, and there will be the sound of the aditional contact as well. If you can't tell the difference between a clean bank and a bank combo, you must not be in the same room that the game is happening in. And no, a ball touching the sides of the pocket on its way in isn't a bank, and therefore does not have be called. I also don't understand why you think the rule adds potential for trouble. IMO it does just the opposite.
No, not exactly. The player only has to call the cushions the object ball will hit. He doesn't have to mention any "small" cushion hits right by the pocket, since they are not counted as banks. Also, he doesn't have to call any kisses, combinations, caroms or rails struck first by the cue ball, since all of those are absolutely forbidden by the rules.chefjeff said:
About the only situation that might be problematic is if the object ball is close to a cushion or other ball, and it's not clear whether the cue ball struck the object ball first (which is required for the bank to count).
BCA rules states you respot the 8.Vinnie said:
"You're on two fouls" rule is dumb too imo. So many players become deaf all of sudden after their second foul.