rossaroni said:
If I'm not mistaken 30's is as high as they get...and anyone claiming to break like that is probably lying to you. At least that's my understanding...
who has the hardest break?
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If I'm not mistaken 30's is as high as they get...and anyone claiming to break like that is probably lying to you. At least that's my understanding...
Those claims
of in the 40's were corrected to be in Kilometers per hour, not miles per hour.
George Breedlove has the hardest witnessed recorded break on record at
a little over 38 MPH, and said he wouldn't do it again for fear of dislocating or tearing something in his shoulder. The other two breaks he did were in the 33 MPH range.
seymore15074 said:
of in the 40's were corrected to be in Kilometers per hour, not miles per hour.
George Breedlove has the hardest witnessed recorded break on record at
a little over 38 MPH, and said he wouldn't do it again for fear of dislocating or tearing something in his shoulder. The other two breaks he did were in the 33 MPH range.
On the Run said:
I know this guy. He is tall and hits them hard, but not as hard as Nevel.
His name is Derek I am going to mispell his last name, but it is Lenard.
If he is a shortstop then holy SHI* he is a strong one.
His little buddy with the clean cut look black hair is probably better than him.
> George does indeed light them up,as does Danny. George DOES have a serious problem hitting them at more than 80%. I went to one of my first tournaments and saw George completely dislocate his LEFT shoulder,breaking right-handed,and had to stop in the finals and have it pulled back into place. Buddy Hall offered to forfeit in the finals rather than watch George go thru that,George refused,and lost anyway. I asked him if that was a problem,and he said it just does it occasionally,and the weird thing was,it happened the first time in a gambling game. George broke,and it popped,and naturally he dropped to the floor. His opponent's backer thought it was a move,and was said to have followed George to the hospital to make sure. He came back in the poolroom later with his arm in a sling. He said it happens every time he hits the balls with everything he has. He sure hits 'em sporty at 80% though. Tommy D.
The first time Jerry Slivka was in Hagerstown for a tournament a few years back he played a match clear in the back of the room (10,000 square foor building) and it was EASY to tell his break from anyone else in the room. Like a shotgun going off. He was in Hagerstown this past weekend for the Tiger Tour and while he still hits'em hard he seems to have taken a little off of it.
bar box breaker
Just this past weekend I saw Josh Brothers explode into a rack on the barbox making SIX BALLS!! He was playing Mike Davis who just conceded the rack as the 3 remaing balls sat perfectly. AMAZING
Just this past weekend I saw Josh Brothers explode into a rack on the barbox making SIX BALLS!! He was playing Mike Davis who just conceded the rack as the 3 remaing balls sat perfectly. AMAZING
seymore15074 said:
I, for one, have always found it hard to believe those speed guns they use to measure the break. I mean if you watch how fast that cue ball is traveling and think of a car going 30 mph. I wonder if we are really getting an accurate reading.
Before those guns came out, if I had to guess, I would have said a hard break shot is traveling over 70 mph. Pitchers throw in the 90's, Tennis players serve over 130 and golf balls can go over 170 off the clubhead. 30 mph always seemed slow to me by comparison.
jay helfert said:
No way. A pool player can't get the same full-body torque that a pitcher does. A tennis player or a golfer gets similar torque, but they hit the ball with an extended lever (longer than just a human arm), so they can generate even more power than a baseball pitcher. It makes sense that 30 mph is about as fast as one can get with a pool stroke.
jay helfert said:
I used to think exactly the same way too, until I realized that getting hit by a car going 30 mph can kill you, lol. Think of it this way, when a car passes a light pole and it's going 30mph, the time it takes for the front end to the back end of the car to pass the pole is pretty darn fast.
cuetechasaurus said:
You are right. 30 mph is about 45 feet per second, so if the cue ball is traveling 4.5 - 5 feet before hitting the rack, the time elapsed is about a tenth of a second. That's pretty quick.
On the other hand, even if you hit it that fast, without solid contact with the object ball and control of the CB after contact, the fast break is pretty useless.
Has Colin Colenso ever been clocked? He seems to have that power break down pretty well and I find it difficult to distinguish the sound of the cue hitting the CB from the CB hitting the front ball. I've seen lots of videos but none of them have compared to the videos of Colin. I'm sure if someone of a bigger stature mastered his technique they could manage a couple more MPH but he seems to have it on lockdown at the moment.
tsw_521 said:
Your probably right. It just seems like they are generating more speed. By the way, a cue stick is also a type of "extended lever".
Hierovision, that avatar you are using just cracks me up. I have seen it now a few times in your posts and I always laugh.
On the subject of the break, I have to give the nod to David Howard. The first big tournament I ever went to was when me and John Ditoro rode up to CM Lee's place in Seminole, Florida. When we arrived, the room was packed and looking around I couldnt find anywhere to sit that was close to the tables. Then I saw this really good spot that was right at the foot of one of the tables on one side of the room. So I hustle over there and plop myself down, only to discover why no one is sitting there. This was the table David Howard was playing a match. I am sitting there, kinda off to the side of the table just a bit and the first game Howard wins he goes to break and SMMMMAAAASHHHH, the pack explodes. I honestly was scared shitless that the cueball was going to come flying off and smash into my head. It was so loud and so impressive how hard he hit that rack. I still remember sitting there and trying not to shark David Howard when he was breaking. Its not like I could sit there with my hands up across my face, curled up into a fetal position, so I just sat there petrified whenever he broke. Its not even like he was coming close to going off the table, it was just that the sheer velocity of how hard he was breaking made that seat a scary place to sit. I finally had to get up and move and sweated the tournament from much further away.
On the subject of the break, I have to give the nod to David Howard. The first big tournament I ever went to was when me and John Ditoro rode up to CM Lee's place in Seminole, Florida. When we arrived, the room was packed and looking around I couldnt find anywhere to sit that was close to the tables. Then I saw this really good spot that was right at the foot of one of the tables on one side of the room. So I hustle over there and plop myself down, only to discover why no one is sitting there. This was the table David Howard was playing a match. I am sitting there, kinda off to the side of the table just a bit and the first game Howard wins he goes to break and SMMMMAAAASHHHH, the pack explodes. I honestly was scared shitless that the cueball was going to come flying off and smash into my head. It was so loud and so impressive how hard he hit that rack. I still remember sitting there and trying not to shark David Howard when he was breaking. Its not like I could sit there with my hands up across my face, curled up into a fetal position, so I just sat there petrified whenever he broke. Its not even like he was coming close to going off the table, it was just that the sheer velocity of how hard he was breaking made that seat a scary place to sit. I finally had to get up and move and sweated the tournament from much further away.
jay helfert said:
All of those numbers sound as if they make perfect sense to me... The longer golf club hits the ball the fastest, and so on down... Think of how huge of a circle the club makes in a swing. The tenis players makes a slightly smaller circle, the pitchers arm makes a smaller circle, etc... Pool players don't get this kind of movement to get up to speed.
edit, it's already been said..
