Who is known to make the most forward balanced cue "butt"??

[jrctherake]

I'm curious, who makes forward balanced cue "butt"?

It can be production or full custom.

Most of the shafts I use are 3.5 oz to 3.8 oz. They are carbon fiber shafts.

Before going to carbon fiber I was use to shafts that weighed 4.3ish to 4.6ish range.

With the lighter carbon shafts the cues' balance just doesn't suit me feel wise.

Thanks!

 

[alphadog]

Anyone who offers a ebony or rosewood nose and stainless steel , or Ivory joint.

 

[Patrick Johnson]

With the lighter carbon shafts the cues' balance just doesn't suit me feel wise.

With the lighter shaft too are you sure it's the balance and not the overall lightness? Have you compared its actual balance point with non-CF cues?

pj
chgo

 

[Bishop]

With the lighter shaft too are you sure it's the balance and not the overall lightness? Have you compared its actual balance point with non-CF cues?

pj
chgo

This is a good point. There’s a lot of factors to consider.

I put together a few cues that were forward playing or weighted more north than you typically find with a cue that has a significant weight bolt.

For me personally, to achieve a forward playing cue, I prefer a heavier cue with no weight bolt. Something stabilized and/or cored.

If I’m shooting for 19.5-20.5 or so ounces I’d rather remove material in the butt than start with a lighter cue that I need to add a bolt to while trying to compensate for that forward feel by matching up a heavier shaft.

 

[crazy8legs]

I have a Pechauer Rogue CF shaft. It comes in at 4.2 oz. That would probably work. What's the joint type you're using?

Also I think it was previously mentioned, but if your going to play with a lighter CF shaft, you would need to go with a steel jointed cue, or at least something with a heavier steel pin.

 

[ShootingArts]

I'm curious, who makes forward balanced cue "butt"?

It can be production or full custom.

Most of the shafts I use are 3.5 oz to 3.8 oz. They are carbon fiber shafts.

Before going to carbon fiber I was use to shafts that weighed 4.3ish to 4.6ish range.

With the lighter carbon shafts the cues' balance just doesn't suit me feel wise.

Thanks!

It is easy to install a second weight bolt behind the pin of your cue butt or have someone make a heavier collar if you are already playing with a stainless one.

Assuming you still have your old wooden shafts measure the balance point with the one of them you like best and ask a cue builder to match that balance point. Weight front and rear in the cue butt can be juggled to get the feel you want.

Hu

 

[ideologist]

I'm curious, who makes forward balanced cue "butt"?

It can be production or full custom.

Most of the shafts I use are 3.5 oz to 3.8 oz. They are carbon fiber shafts.

Before going to carbon fiber I was use to shafts that weighed 4.3ish to 4.6ish range.

With the lighter carbon shafts the cues' balance just doesn't suit me feel wise.

Thanks!

Brass pin, brass joint, heavy forearm (brass is heavier than steel).

Anyone can make that.

 

[RandyinHawaii]

I had a Longoni Luna Nera (CF,) 29 inch shaft, that weighed 4.4 oz.

 

[Quesports]

You might consider a Cognoscenti. The one Joe made for me was a solid ebony forearm so you could always call and inquire from him directly..

 

[ideologist]

You might consider a Cognoscenti. The one Joe made for me was a solid ebony forearm so you could always call and inquire from him directly..

G10 pins are pretty light, though

 

[crazy8legs]

Brass pin, brass joint, heavy forearm (brass is heavier than steel).

Anyone can make that.

Thanks for the info. I didn't know that brass was heavier.

So what about a brass insert for the CF shaft then? (I know my OB shafts for my Pechauers all have them and they come in around 4.3)

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[ideologist]

Thanks for the info. I didn't know that brass was heavier.

So what about a brass insert for the CF shaft then? (I know my OB shafts for my Pechauers all have them and they come in around 4.3)

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Well, brass is heavier than aluminum or plastic. It's a fairly small piece though, so it's not going to add a ton of weight. Some cuemakers can slug an extra ounce into a shaft that way, but overall a typical insert adds .5oz or less. The weight is at the joint so it doesn't change the deflection at all.

 

[NoDirtyHippies]

Can't remember the guys name but he was using the 3/8x16 weight bolt as his joint pin.. Think he was making cues in Seattle

 

[BrianaBrown13]

The two makers I associate forward balance with are Bill Stroud, Joss West and Tascarella. Had a conversation with Rodney Morris in 2015 about his Tascarella, he talked about the forward balance helping keep the tip stable through impact. I've heard the same from players playing with ebony noosed Southwest's.

 

[mikemosconi]

If you can find a Troy Downey cue from his Gabe Owen series that he made many years ago- a lot of them had an ebony nose and larger radial pin- they are definitely forward balanced and play fantastic- I think the best forward balanced cue that I ever played and others would agree. You would be very happy with one of these cues if you can find one for sale.

 

[R2PQZ]

Can't remember the guys name but he was using the 3/8x16 weight bolt as his joint pin.. Think he was making cues in Seattle

Ernie Omori

 

[Patrick Johnson]

...forward balance helping keep the tip stable through impact.

I think the physical effect of a cue's balance on the tip's stability through impact must be next to none - but of course how it feels is important too.

pj
chgo

 

[NoDirtyHippies]

Ernie Omori

Thank you! It was driving me nuts that I couldn’t remember his name..

 

[Nyquil]

I'm curious, who makes forward balanced cue "butt"?

It can be production or full custom.

Most of the shafts I use are 3.5 oz to 3.8 oz. They are carbon fiber shafts.

Before going to carbon fiber I was use to shafts that weighed 4.3ish to 4.6ish range.

With the lighter carbon shafts the cues' balance just doesn't suit me feel wise.

Thanks!

May wanna try out a mezz with their SWS weight system. You can adjust the weight of the SWS shafts with different bolts. I just have a standard sigma shaft with an EC9 butt. It is a very balanced cue.

 

[S.Vaskovskyi]

I might have something interesting for you. You could remember me from some discussions here ...about cf shafts for example.
Cue-building came out my hobby recently. So as I'm used to learn by doing I started with the cues for myself experimenting. Being tall my needs and preferences when it comes to cues are far from standart. At the moment I have 4 cues built for myself. All are 62" (31"+31"). So all the butts are 31" long.
All of them are pretty special for certain reasons for me.
If not the circumstances and the situation in my country I would never thought about letting go any of them...but after russian invasion there are more important things at the moment.
So one of the butts could be interesting for you. It is the lightest out of them. Slightly above 14 oz. It was an interesting project. The main goal was to get it light weighted and forward balanced. It was a success first of all due to the construction used. The woods and the materials are exceptional.
The balance of the butt itself is 14,17" (14,05 oz) together with my 3,95 oz shaft it makes the balance 20.5" (18 oz).
So as the pin is light G10. The weight and balance can be easily modified. If I change the pin to the brass one I can get it at around 15,3 oz and pretty forward balanced.
The weight is natural so as all of my cues. It's built to except the rear extension with 3/8-10 modified pin. The extension could be built for it. Due to my height I just didn't need it much.
By making and using the short light weighted rear extension the length could be added if you like and it won't change the balance much.
Now I'll let some pictures talk and if you'll be interested then I can show some more pictures of the process to see the construction idea and other details in PM.
I know you love pool and playing strong so I know this special for me butt could find very skillful hands. I hope your back feels better and you're enjoying the game.

Happy easter!