I don't remember us playing, but I'll take your word for it.
Who is responsible for money owed?
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Well of course, how would you remember something that happened in the mid '80s.
The Last time I saw you was at the Reno Sands tournament.
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My visits to the various many bar hotels was not for the gourmet food. Scooby snacks comes to mind. No telling what was in them!
How ever any who visited the Trinity County jail in the '60s did get awesome food. The jailers partook of the free food and wherever my grandmother was cooking, got the county contract for the food. Andy of Mayberry was Trinity County.
tomatoshooter
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Damn right. I'm not a big gambler but I take gambling debt seriously. Borrow $50 for half a tank of gas? I might "forget". Lose a penny on a game? You owe me, dammit! You can't be getting sloppy when money comes and goes that quickly.
I only read post 1.
The winning player has to eat his loss (of not getting paid). That's the way the rolls go. Or, he can punch the opponent, and still won't get paid anyway. That's about it.
The winning player has to eat his loss (of not getting paid). That's the way the rolls go. Or, he can punch the opponent, and still won't get paid anyway. That's about it.
Trinity County is like a one horse town, not much there but one small town.
Drive through the place several times thinking who would want to live here.
People tired of rat race,or those born, there having zero desire to leave.
Too small for me, but it not bad place, had good bakery with good coffee.
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The guy that made the game.
I had to eat something on the other side. A player asked me to back him giving a guy he played often, and had burned up, by giving him more weight. It seemed like about a fair game now and I was bored , so I gambled on it. He beats the guy and comes back and says he won't pay. My mistake was not telling the guy I was backing him and making the bet myself. Then he is not stiffing this pool player, he is stiffing me.
I can't believe I didn't think of that, but in my defense , I never backed anyone but myself, then I knew if the money was lost , the guy tried as hard as he could to win!
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Punching someone out is often a losing proposition for a variety of reasons.
But, when I was in that kind of situation a long time ago I was a tiny 13 year old kid and a big guy stiffed me dared me to try and collect. When he walked away I told the other people that watched, my winnings were now theirs if they wanted to try and collect. They were older criminally insane juvenile delinquents that liked to mug people. They followed him and saw him walking down the road. Drove past him, flung the passenger side door open and flattened him. Took his wallet and all he had (which was way more than he owed me) along with giving him a few extra lumps for good measure. Never knew what hit him and we never saw him again. Sounded like he easily could have wound up with spinal and/or brain damage. Karma is a biotch.
The pool room I played in didn't mind gamboling, they just didn't want people to exchange $ out in the open since it was illegal at the time. From then on I insisted that we discretely put the money in a pocket after each game instead. Looser palms the money and leaves it in a pocket when they take the balls out and rack for a new game.
Posting the $ is the best way to go unless it violates house rules against gamboling out in the open.
You know, the really sad part of this generation is that they even have to ask this stupid question that has such an obvious answer, We're all going to burn in hell.
True story: Tulsa legend 'Fat Randy' Wallace was at a big bar-box tourn. in a big Texas bootscootin' cowboy joint. Place was huge so what he does is get two local rubes who knew him by name only to stake the same set. Once this was done FR conspired with a good Texas player to dump both these cowboys. Well, in the middle of the first set cowboy 'A' and cowboy 'B' somehow get wind of this elaborate charade. Now its ON and Randy and his co-conspirator somehow get out of this joint alive. Sorry to hi-jack but this thread made me think of Randy and his crazy schemes.
Biloxi Boy
Man With A Golden Arm
All of this goes to the issues of integrity, trust, reputation, etc. It seems that truth and honesty are worth less and less every day. One can break his back teaching children the proper way to conduct themselves, but if their peer group embraces different values, you have fought a losing battle. When I was a kid, cheats and liars had no place in the world I inhabited -- not because I said it was so but because everyone did. Today, flash and trash and getting over are far more important than living honestly.
Over a forty year period, I watched a group of Vietnamese "boat people" come to Biloxi and rebuild their lives. They brought with them a very strong set of values and were truly cut from the "my word is my bond" bolt of cloth. However, they quickly learned, most the hard way, that there was no substitute for a written contract.
Over a forty year period, I watched a group of Vietnamese "boat people" come to Biloxi and rebuild their lives. They brought with them a very strong set of values and were truly cut from the "my word is my bond" bolt of cloth. However, they quickly learned, most the hard way, that there was no substitute for a written contract.
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My memory must be fading I had one other rule.
"I don't make gambles, I make customers."
I never tried to break anyone, ever. I just get my occasional deposit to the bank and make sure it irritates
the customer into coming back next week. This went on for years, it was side money. I had a job.
"I don't make gambles, I make customers."
I never tried to break anyone, ever. I just get my occasional deposit to the bank and make sure it irritates
the customer into coming back next week. This went on for years, it was side money. I had a job.
When you can beat someone for a solid amount of money and go to dinner with them and THEY buy you dinner-you have really laid it down real good.
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Fatboy<——likes free dinners
That is funny. I agree. That's when you've really got em! What a great feeling to be admired! lol
Agreed. The troublemakers were known back in the day because they usually had a reputation among the locals. You had to bump shoulders with them from time to time when you were out and about, and it behooved you to be respectful and not to trust them.
I was a few years ahead of you and remember the invasion of the "boat people". Heard about lots of clashes of culture but never saw any of it myself because I went off to college in 1968 and never looked back.
After I left I did hear a story from my mom that some kid took off his belt and put it around our dog's neck and walked her back to the kid's house a couple of blocks away. My father saw it and followed the kid to his house and retrieved our dog before she was eaten.
The kid admitted that they planned to eat our dog because it was running around loose (in our yard) and it was their way. I imagine it didn't sit too well with the neighbors when they were informed as to why a lot of their pets had gone missing since the family moved in.
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Exactly
I have known a handful of lowlifes that would dump their backer, never heard of dumping two at once for the same bet!
I had a few guys come to me wanting to dump their backer on fifty-fifty shares. My response was always "Why? I am going to kick your ass and take it all." That was always the way it went with these guys that weren't secure enough in their own skills to take the deal with their backer.
Hu
As everybody else has said, whoever made the bet is responsible for it, and in this case it was the player who made the bet. Nobody else vouched for that bet to the winning player, including any backers. Whatever agreement the losing player may have had between he and his backer is just that, between he and his backer, but the losing player here is responsible for paying the loss in full as he is the one that made and vouched for the bet to the winner.
Assume for two grand you could go to small claims court, and get judgement if you win case. Again collecting judgement is tought road but possible,