Who made it? Old Jim Rempe Cue Engraved Butt Cap

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JIMMY L

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Cue is now listed for sale on AZ here is a link to the thread > http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?p=5826852#post5826852


Please see post #20 from "Don aka Sure Man Cues"for more info about how this cue. It was part of a custom built batch from Dan Janes of Joss for King James Rempe.... can't ship until after 7/5/16 as I'm in hospital until then.

I'm just bought this Jim Rempe cue and I'm just trying to find out any info I can on it. I have talked with some friends and emailed a few cue builders(thank you for taking the time to reply)

I'm not really looking to sell it as I love a simple birdeyes maple cue.

I feel it may have been built by Adams but it has a unique script engraved at the bottom "Jim Rempe" so I'm just not sure. I have seen other Adam's cues like this style and with the rings above & below the wrap but not the same logo. I found this one on the net.

http://www.frontrange4x4.com/forums/showthread.php?16295-Some-good-wood(work)

Cue has a 5/16-14 short joint pin, thick joint rings, Ivory ferrule & delrin butt cap with unique Jim Rempe engraved signature. The cue butt is 28.5" & the shaft is 29.5"

I feel it is a cue King James had a custom shop run a small batch on and he would sell when on the road or it may have been a prototype made to send to Adams to copy.

Here is my short list:

Adams Custom Prototype
Early Tim Scruggs or built in his shop at some point
Custom batch by Bob Meucci
Bill McDaniel very early
Richard Black - confirmed as not his


Thank you for any info you may have, Jimmy L

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If my memory is correct, Adam / Helmstetter made those Rempe signature cues, including his own in the late 70s to about mid 80s.

All the best,
WW
 
True, most Adam (not Adams) with brass insert pin were 18 thread, but not all. Their "Balabushka" series, for example was 5/16 by 14.

But if this cue was say, late 70s vintage, there is another possibility. Dan Janes could have made the cue, as at that time, Jim Rempe and Mike Sigel were doing some exhibition matches together, and Sigel actually worked at the Joss shop at that time with Janes. So it could have been Dan, as it would have been convenient for Jim, living in Scranton, PA, and Dan building cues in Towson, Md. From many discussions with Tim Scruggs that I had in the old days, Jim Rempe was a frequent visitor to their first shop on Mylander Lane in Towson, so it makes some sense.

Two things though, are not consistent with a Janes cue at that time. One, this would be the only cue I'd be aware of that had Bushka rings made by Dan, but it's still possible he could have. Two, the brass joint insert, when used by Dan, usually didn't show any maple; the brass insert was up against the bottom of the joint collar with no wood exposed. Exposing a bit of maple at the bottom in those years was more characteristic of Tim Scruggs, as I have examples of both from that period.

Those specs on the sticker are somewhat of a clue. 21 ounces, 13 1/4 mm shaft? My God, that's a piece of lumber. Probably a product of the 70s. And putting a sticker on the buttplate is a strange thing, if from Dan or Tim. But again, could have been part of a very limited run of cues for Jim Rempe.

One thing for sure, the cue would not be a product of the late 80s. Jim had moved to representing Meucci at that time, playing with the famous Crown cue.

Very interesting indeed.

All the best,
WW
 
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Not all Adam cues were 18 pin, though AFAIK their Rempe cues were indeed 18 pin ( have several).

Evidence: Their Balabushka cues. And there were more.


I know I have seen these cues before, but I don't remember where. At the moment, I am thinking Adam. That very thick wall stainless collar is very Adam. Could be wrong though....


Not likely a Janes cue, as I believe was said.


EDIT: That Rempe signature looks like the one Adam used as well. These old "signature" cues very often didn't replicate a genuine signature at all. There are many examples of this. I do not know if the Adam line used a replicated genuine signature.



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Chopdoc, have I mentioned that it's good to have you back here? I've been tired of carrying the sagacity load for the mid 70s to the mid 80s. :-)

All the best,
WW
 
WildWing said:
Chopdoc, have I mentioned that it's good to have you back here? I've been tired of carrying the sagacity load for the mid 70s to the mid 80s. :-)

All the best,
WW
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LOL!

Yeah, thanks. :smile:


Real curious about this cue. I know I have seen these before. Just can't place it....

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Who made it?

at a team tournament, this past weekend, I picked up a very similar engraved Jim Rempe cue. 58", 5/16x14 steel joint w/ thick silver joint ring. 4pt birdseye w/ very thick ebony veneer, [sharp points] looks like Cortlin linen [green speck], maple butt w/ 2 black, maple, black rings 1 1/2" apart centered in maple butt. Jim Rempe signature engraved in delrin butt plate. [not like Adams line, that was 5/16x18 thread w/ a decal of Rempe shooting on butt plate. also has normal rubber bumper size, such as Joss, Scruggs, Joss West etc, etc. Adams used a smaller bumper w/ metric threaded weight bolt for holding bumper. looks to be all original. not sure who made it, but its very cool indeed. Don Sherman aka Sure Man Cues. just got home this afternoon & found this post. signature the same in delrin, not like cream colored material used in Adams butt caps. i'll try & post some pics tomorrow.
 
Thank you to all who have replied to this thread. Does anyone have contact info for Jim Rempe? Email would be great. Please PM if you have it. Thank you, Jimmy
 
I have a feeling Jayman will know this one.


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Adams used a smaller bumper w/ metric threaded weight bolt for holding bumper
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Adam used at least three different push in bumpers and at least two different screw on bumpers that I am immediately aware of. I am betting that there were more too.



FYI: Some old catalogs on the Adam web site- http://adam-japan.com/adam-japan-pamphlet




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A pic of the weight bolt taken out of the cue would be interesting. The early McD's had that head on them. Maybe someone tried to add some weight to the cue.
 
Rockin' Robin said:
A pic of the weight bolt taken out of the cue would be interesting. The early McD's had that head on them. Maybe someone tried to add some weight to the cue.
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I thought about that weight bolt, it does look like the McDermott D series, for example. But the head of that wouldn't fit the recessed drill area for the bolts used by Joss and Scruggs, for example. They used the larger ones with the more slanted heads, so I can't imagine the square McDermott bolt fitting very well. This is a tough one, indeed.
 
If you are interested in trading it out for something else let me know!

My first real cue was an Adam JR-9. I'm almost positive, and all evidence seems to lean this way, that it's an early Adam prototype JR series.
 
I feel that Jim Rempe may have had some small batches of cues made up to sell and at some point took it to the next level and started working with Adam cues. They may have used the designs from the cues he had made up.

I would like to get his email or phone number and go right to the source. It is a very interesting cue and I know it's not worth much but I'm more interested in the history of it. I have seem many Rempe cues but not with the engraved butt cap.
 
Who made it? Old Jim Rempe Cue EEngraved Butt Cap

Jimmy, good news, its not a Adams, I just picked one up w/ same engraved butt cap. 14 pin, not 18, thick silver ring. mine sharp points w/ double rings in butt, w/ Cortlin linen. I sent pictures to Danny Janes [Joss Cues] he said "so many years ago he made 15 to possibly 20 for his friend, in hopes he could sell a few Joss cues for him. he said Rempe sold 400 in a month [true story] Danny said at the time, I couldn't make 400 cues in a year. he sent him to McDermott, but wasn't satisfied w/ the workmanship. Danny then put him in contact w/ Dick Helmstetter, Adam Cues, Japan, who made the production Jim Rempe line of cues. you got a keeper. don aka Sure Man Cues
 

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