Who's Who?

Steve, I think I've played you in a tournament before. Didn't you play at the Bicycle Club a couple of years ago in a UPA event? This is one reason it's nice to know who you're talking to. You can sometimes relate on a different level. I understand if people feel that they're compromising their own identity, though.

Danny
 
Danny Kuykendal said:
Steve, I think I've played you in a tournament before. Didn't you play at the Bicycle Club a couple of years ago in a UPA event? This is one reason it's nice to know who you're talking to. You can sometimes relate on a different level. I understand if people feel that they're compromising their own identity, though.

Danny
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I believe you're thinking of Steve Lillis. Here's a head shot for the wanted posters.

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I will say my name is Chuck and from the Cleveland area. :)

I was a moderator for a very popular PC gaming forum and it was more of a family/first name atmosphere. Still had to watch each other as PC gamers are natural hacks. :P

Give it some time here and you will see how friendly and supportive everyone is. Lots of great people and good information, even if you don't get name, rank and state info. :P lol

ez
 
Danny Kuykendal said:
I'm a little concerned at the fact that I don't know who I'm talking to on this forum. [...]
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Here's what I had to say on the issue two years ago

And by the way, I still think this anonymity crap is a big impediment to this forum improving. Also I've been to Danny's pool room (Danny K's) in Orange CO, CA. Nice place. I recommend people check it out.

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I think you invented the internet Smorg.

I've met and played pool with you, with Bob jewett, with Fred cornerman Agnir, with John onepocketchump barton-collins, with Murray Tucker, with Deno Andrews, with Steve Ellis who posts under some name I don't remember, with Joey Aguzin, and with many others who used to post to RSB.

In the old days you and JimboCT (who I've also donated to) were the outliers, the ones who posted under fake names. Pretty much everyone else used their real names. IMO, this forum can only get so good as long as you're having a discussion with rackdude or hustler42 or whatever. I know that when I'm thinking about taking time to respond carefully to something or try to engage in a discussion that takes some effort, I'm reluctant to do it if I don't even know who I'm responding to, if contributers are not going to own up to and stand by what they say.

Anonymous contributors, like people willing to flip the bird to someone driving by at 60 mph, are the biggest impediment to this board improving, imo.

I started a thread last week, "What's with the fake names?" There were many, many responses. I saw lots of paranoia, and I saw lots of people comfortably wrapped in their cloak af anoniminty. But I saw no reasonable arguments for doing it.

Come on, the new year is coming. Before others can take you seriously, you should choose to be something other than a cyber crank caller.

If you owe child support and are hiding, or if you have pool discussion banned as a condition of your parole, then I understand. Otherwise, git with the program and put the weight of your SELF behind what you say.

mike page
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Mike, well said. I think it's nice to engage someone in a discussion whom you know a little. Even if it's a first name only. I know a lot of people in the billiard business. I was a player in the 70s and in the eighties I ran a billiard supply and now a pool room.

One of the guys has a Keith McCready picture below his name. Is that Keith? If I knew I could respond to who it is.

Danny
 
Who the person is saying something should not make it important or worthy, it is the content of what is said that makes it important.

To suggest that anything said under the cloak of anonymity is an "impediment fo the forum improving" is ridiculous. There are thousands of members and thousands of posts every few days by people who don't use their name. Only a very small fraction of posts are by people who's screen name matches their real name.

If you were to condense out only those posts (and only those non-anonymous members), you would have a very lonely and superficial site. Nothing would destroy the forum quicker than that.

This forum, like the 10,000 other forums across the internet, is doing just fine with its level of anonymity.


mikepage said:
Here's what I had to say on the issue two years ago

And by the way, I still think this anonymity crap is a big impediment to this forum improving. Also I've been to Danny's pool room (Danny K's) in Orange CO, CA. Nice place. I recommend people check it out.

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I think you invented the internet Smorg.

I've met and played pool with you, with Bob jewett, with Fred cornerman Agnir, with John onepocketchump barton-collins, with Murray Tucker, with Deno Andrews, with Steve Ellis who posts under some name I don't remember, with Joey Aguzin, and with many others who used to post to RSB.

In the old days you and JimboCT (who I've also donated to) were the outliers, the ones who posted under fake names. Pretty much everyone else used their real names. IMO, this forum can only get so good as long as you're having a discussion with rackdude or hustler42 or whatever. I know that when I'm thinking about taking time to respond carefully to something or try to engage in a discussion that takes some effort, I'm reluctant to do it if I don't even know who I'm responding to, if contributers are not going to own up to and stand by what they say.

Anonymous contributors, like people willing to flip the bird to someone driving by at 60 mph, are the biggest impediment to this board improving, imo.

I started a thread last week, "What's with the fake names?" There were many, many responses. I saw lots of paranoia, and I saw lots of people comfortably wrapped in their cloak af anoniminty. But I saw no reasonable arguments for doing it.

Come on, the new year is coming. Before others can take you seriously, you should choose to be something other than a cyber crank caller.

If you owe child support and are hiding, or if you have pool discussion banned as a condition of your parole, then I understand. Otherwise, git with the program and put the weight of your SELF behind what you say.

mike page
fargo
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p.s. The avatar is not me.
 
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Hey Danny, how's it going.


my name's Sundown Wessels, but I need to put my last name with a first name like Sundown, do I? see you around Danny.
 
mikepage said:
...and I saw lots of people comfortably wrapped in their cloak af anoniminty. But I saw no reasonable arguments for doing it.
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What would be the reasonable arguments for these people not to remain anonymous?

For people like myself, who aren't regulars in the pool industry/community, there really aren't any added advantages. Just risks.

BTW, I was kidding with my previous post. My first name is Joe. Why exactly would anyone want/need my last name?
 
Danny Kuykendal said:
I'm a little concerned at the fact that I don't know who I'm talking to on this forum. Danny K
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DK,
Well, don't get totally discouraged; AZB is still a GREAT place to make contacts. Come down to the DCC AZB room; and you will have the opportunity to meet a large number of AZB'ers - names are put to faces; in person it is a bit easier to judge whom you should trust. I am now familiar with a bunch of previously anonymous AZB'ers; but I respect their preference to remain anonymous on the internet. There are tons of trolls that make brief appearances here before they flit off and leave the serious pool players alone.
 
Sundown! good to hear from you. Going great at DKS. Are you still recovering tables? I know I saw you at Danny K's a while back, but forgot the content of the conversation.

By the way, what's wrong with wanting to know whom you're speaking with. Is it such a big deal to give out your first name?

Danny
 
Scott Lee said:
I don't want to be Jay...I want to be Fatboy! :D...well, at least live in his house! Primo digs my friend! :D

Scott Lee
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you can be me today.....all i need is the address where I can start sending the bills to......then poof.....your me. FYI it gets a bit pricey and isnt an nice as it appears to be. honestly I'm happier in my 2000 sqft house in LA. But for business etc. I have to have the "image" and it works so thus the Vegas house and I stole it too.

I went out to play last night and Jay dosent have to like it playing 8 ball, for what ever reason its my strongest game now and I hardly play it, I tried to play 1 pocket and I still dont have enough gray hair to bother with that game I was getting 9-6 from a guy I beat playing 8 ball and was even with in 9 ball(I should have won the 9 ball game but I gave him a few games) man my 1P game sucks.


welcome to the forum Danny K hang out for a while, perhaps you'll become a degenerate poster like Jay, myself and my other friends here who I dont know......figure that out. birds of a feather, dosent matter internet relationships can be close ones with strangers with common interests-unlike anywhere else.
 
Danny,

yeah, still recovering tables. If you need anything give me a call. I also have a little store in Santa Ana. I have some Diamond tables on the showroom, with some Imperials and imports. I don't what the big deal is about first names. But for guys like us that are in the Industry, especially you being a top player, its no big deal.

keep up the good work at Danny K's and the food is great. How's Richard?

-Sundown
 
Hi, I'm James!

Danny, I like the analogy to the driver who tailgates you in traffic then flips you off while flying around you. Or when someone merges and refuses to make eye contact and then guns it in front of you. Is this how these people act on foot? If they see a non-existant opening in a line at the grocery store, do they look away, throw their cart in front of you and then refuse to acknowledge your existance? Usually not...

I agree that these actions (in traffic) are due almost solely to the feeling of anonymity and power from being in the car.

As for the forum, I can see both sides. Unfortunately it's free and public so there isn't much you can do about it.

I think the best idea I've personally seen as a user/moderator/administrator of many forums in the past comes from one in particular.

When you register, you are required to put a real first and last name as well as an existing email account. Registration through email is required to prove it is valid. You have the option of making your last name hidden to other users, but you are required to have "First Name Last Initial" in your signature. I really see NO downside at all to a format like this. The moderators have your first/last/IP which is plenty if they ever needed it for anything important, and other users have some sort of a name to put to a face.

It won't ever happen, but we can dream!

-James Michelinie
address, email, phone number, SS#, left testicle all available upon request. PM for details.
 
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