But there are certainly some guys who are specialists on the bar boxes. That must be a sight to behold, a monster like svb or baraks working one over. I hope I neve get it the way of them freight trains.
why a 9' table
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here's a 9 ft'r
he could shoot with Earl's long cue.
here's a 9 ft'r
That's Alec Baldwin on the left.
The equipment you play on is not what makes your game better, it's the countless hours you put in behind the cue ball that does that....no matter what table you practice on
True, but if you only practice on the same equipment that you compete on, that's gonna help tremendously. So, if you only play 7 footers everywhere else, then it would be smart money to practice only on a 7 foot as well....
To a great extent I agree, balls in the way are not near the problem on a 9ft compared to a 7ft, which requires more cue ball control to get around the table without knocking balls into other clusters that have to be broke out too.
This point has been argued before in relation to Mosconi's 526, and the general consensus is that running balls in 14.1 is more difficult on a 9 foot table than on an 8 footer, which is what the 526 was played on.
Why don't the professional players play the world championships on 7 foot tables if they are truly the best test of skill with controlling the cue ball, working clusters etc.?
I don't see the Snooker Championships being held on a bar box either. I believe they use an even bigger table 6'x12'.
The point of the mud ball is a valid one and that was a big game changer for those who had never encountered it before. Is it still used a lot in the bar box games of today?
Because on the 9ft, there may be less clusters, but more difficult to break out as well, plus the long shots, and the draw needed to get some places is not possible for "most" amatuers"....
A barbox is not more difficult, just has a set of unique problems, and that is less space in which to move the cueball around without bumping into something....
And the "mudball" is long gone, because if they are using Diamond tables more and more, and even the Valleys have switched to regular cue ball now.....i'm sure they're are mudballs still out there, and they do suck, no question about that....
The equipment you play on is not what makes your game better, it's the countless hours you put in behind the cue ball that does that....no matter what table you practice on
nailed it.. Bar Box is just a toy though, 9 footers will put some hair on your chest
That table also had 5 1/2" corners and 6" side pockets...on a 9ft today, with them same spec's, I think the record would have fallen a long time ago. Reguarless of that, once again my point is....any pool table size will still offer the practice table to improve one's game overall, be it a 9ft, 8ft or 7ft, don't matter.
RKC do you ever come to Louisiana, I would like for you to redo my table sometime next year?
Originally posted by RealKingCobra:
My point was that you can shove a pool table into a corner, leaving only 2 sides available to shoot from...and still get better and better with practice, reguardless of what size the table is, if you're working to control your stroke and cue ball control, banks, combo's and so on....[/QUOTE]
Amen!
My point was that you can shove a pool table into a corner, leaving only 2 sides available to shoot from...and still get better and better with practice, reguardless of what size the table is, if you're working to control your stroke and cue ball control, banks, combo's and so on....[/QUOTE]
Amen!
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Now that I have thought about it, I would never go back to a barbox. I will upgrade to a Diamond 9.
This is exactly what I've done.
Yes, Louisiana is on my list for late Jan/Feb....need help getting that Diamond? I can pick one up in Vegas on my way from Washington State. I'm finishing up things here, running down to CA next week, coming back for Christmas with my kids, then heading to CO and TX, LA, MS right after the first of the year.
8ft Tables in Poolrooms?
It is still rare to find 8ft tables in poolrooms still. Yet the majority of home pool tables sold are 8ft tables. People shoot pool at home and think they're pretty good and then go to a bar and find themselves in an altogether different playing table. I think many poolrooms would benefit by having one or two 8fts (with same styling as others). Whoever is working could send the casual crowd towards the smaller tables, and they may feel more comfortable playing on. Maybe they would play a little more and ease into the larger tables as they progress.
For us, the pool "cult-type" players that stay in poolrooms, we can't imagine pool without something to challenge us (or at least we would like to think this). Now, we have two rooms within 3 miles. One has AMF (Brunswick spec-era) 9fts and the other has house style Gandys with buckets. Both have places have good business, but the one with Gandys is full every night. Other than maybe the beer being a little cheaper, I don't see much difference in the two places.
It is still rare to find 8ft tables in poolrooms still. Yet the majority of home pool tables sold are 8ft tables. People shoot pool at home and think they're pretty good and then go to a bar and find themselves in an altogether different playing table. I think many poolrooms would benefit by having one or two 8fts (with same styling as others). Whoever is working could send the casual crowd towards the smaller tables, and they may feel more comfortable playing on. Maybe they would play a little more and ease into the larger tables as they progress.
For us, the pool "cult-type" players that stay in poolrooms, we can't imagine pool without something to challenge us (or at least we would like to think this). Now, we have two rooms within 3 miles. One has AMF (Brunswick spec-era) 9fts and the other has house style Gandys with buckets. Both have places have good business, but the one with Gandys is full every night. Other than maybe the beer being a little cheaper, I don't see much difference in the two places.
A bar a half a block from my house has two 9-footers, and three 8-footers...all coin op.
Not great shape, but decent enough. (The balls are terrible, heh heh.)
Funny, on the busy bar nights, I can get on the 9's easily, while the 8's are busy. Good by me
I would agree with this is most cases. However I don't think the reverse is true. When playing 8 ball on a bar table you must have good control of the cue ball or you will get yourself in trouble easily. The bar table is crowded. Little room to maneuver. The 8 ball bible is a good book to explain this.
I play mostly on bar tables, but practice on 9 foot tables.