137238 British players who are struggling with American English instead of using a pivot
why are the british the best in the world?
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Ron Swanson
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At snooker they are better but I've seen streams of English 8 ball cash games I could have won.
Their high level snooker pros are great players - at snooker. I suspect I could walk into a pool hall in England and have a better chance to win a game of 10 ball on an American pool table than in the Philippines.
Their high level snooker pros are great players - at snooker. I suspect I could walk into a pool hall in England and have a better chance to win a game of 10 ball on an American pool table than in the Philippines.
Their pretty bad at it, naturally.
Rempe decimated their English 8 ball hero Joe Barbara for the World Title in the 80's, basically playing the game for a laugh.
Without Rempe's influence, English 8 ball would still be stuck in the 1920s.
...you're wrong? Is that it?
Link?
The Philippines has a 100 million people. You don't think at least 40% play the country's second most popular sport on regular basis?
So many games...
There are many different kinds of games involving a round ball and a pool cue. Snooker and English 8 ball are a couple. The Brits may be the best at it because they have and still play it the most.
The Brits have great pool players and love snooker and English 8 Ball, the Pinoy's love their Rotation game and 9 Ball and the U.S. players love 8,9 and 10 Ball with a cult following of One Pocket. A couple of games does not mean one nation is better then the other.
Americans are not Brits and most of us like being the way we are. Most of us like the foot loose and fancy free attitude of our pool halls. Our attitude towards pool is fine and if most of the U.S. isn't interested in pool, I'm ok with that. We have a different mentality and are not second class to any nation. Some thing we have proven since our beginning.
If American players dedicated 10 years to Snooker they would excel as would the Pinoy and Taiwanese players.
Why is it so many foreign players relocate to the U.S.? Unlike the Brits and parts of Canada and Aussie land, we got over bowing to a Queen a long time ago and are the better for it, some never will.
Happy 4th of July!!!
There are many different kinds of games involving a round ball and a pool cue. Snooker and English 8 ball are a couple. The Brits may be the best at it because they have and still play it the most.
The Brits have great pool players and love snooker and English 8 Ball, the Pinoy's love their Rotation game and 9 Ball and the U.S. players love 8,9 and 10 Ball with a cult following of One Pocket. A couple of games does not mean one nation is better then the other.
Americans are not Brits and most of us like being the way we are. Most of us like the foot loose and fancy free attitude of our pool halls. Our attitude towards pool is fine and if most of the U.S. isn't interested in pool, I'm ok with that. We have a different mentality and are not second class to any nation. Some thing we have proven since our beginning.
If American players dedicated 10 years to Snooker they would excel as would the Pinoy and Taiwanese players.
Why is it so many foreign players relocate to the U.S.? Unlike the Brits and parts of Canada and Aussie land, we got over bowing to a Queen a long time ago and are the better for it, some never will.
Happy 4th of July!!!
Ron Swanson
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Ah, so you're just making it up as you go along.
Quelle surprise.
Quit trolling my thread.Ron Swanson
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I'm sure believing all that is of great comfort to you.
Ah, so you're just making it up as you go along.
Quelle surprise.
So are you with quoting that China has 30 million snooker players.
Is there where you quote the TV ratings at me (I know where you got the data, so don't bother). Since when does watching (a national hero) translate to participation?
400 million Chinese used to watch Yao. Doesn't mean they all play basketball.
Ron Swanson
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That is because the number of people who play american pool seriously is next to zero in the uk. There are probably fewer than 100 who even know what 10 ball is.
As for E8B, if you've never played it before you're going to be made to look very stupid very quickly. It is deceptively difficult. SVB was losing to those guys on streams when he had a go last year.
Ron Swanson
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The figure was quoted on the bbc as being 30m active players.
Now, next? Make it good cos you're boring me.
Web search brings up zilch.
I don't doubt it, though, with China's population numbers. Pool is also popular over there. You do realize their women pool players are stars, right?
But I also don't doubt that at least 20 million play pool actively in the Philippines.
Ron Swanson
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I do. 1 in 4 active players is stupidly optimistic. Get some official figures.
Impossible to find.
I don't get the point you were trying to make citing China's numbers anyhow? Is that supposed to prove snooker is a more global cue sport or something?
Here's the official US figures:
http://www.doubledonut.com/2006/08/14/top-25-most-popular-sportsrecreational-activities-in-the-us
35 million active pool players.
UK:
http://www.sportengland.org/research/who-plays-sport/by-sport/
Ain't see snewka there.
So, 35 million>30 million.
So pool remains the more global game until you can find some "official" participation numbers for other countries.
British are like candies,very sweet and tasteful
Why do the British do so well at pool at the moment? Well, some mongoloid thought it would be a good idea to make pools cushions faster, the cloth faster and the pockets smaller. As a result you don't need much of a stroke, and the precise snooker style is better suited than the traditional pool style. I've said it many times, I wish you Americans could get some snooker tables over there and play it til you got it out of your system. Maybe then you'd stop trying to transform pool into snooker.
If you really wanted to advance the sport you should use the old style 10 footers, with traditional cloths, normal speed rails and 4,5 inch pockets. I think that would be the perfect setup to make pool an unique and recognizable sport. If that is impossible stay with the 9 footers, but keep the rest the same. Not this insane speed rails and deep shelf rattle pocket nonsense. I think the actual death of pool happened when Brunswick pulled out...but that's just an opinion.
Then some even bigger idiot though it would be great if you played only on barboxes, but of course bar boxes with super fast cushions, cloths and small pockets...sigh. Punting contests...That will help pool for sure.
When will the tables be small and fast enough, I wonder? I posted a video of a guy with a barbox with ice for a playing surface (I thought it was an awesome idea as a fun project) I guess that will be the next evolution of pool in the US? Maybe the rails should be like a flipper machine as well?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAQrdOCi4MI
If you really wanted to advance the sport you should use the old style 10 footers, with traditional cloths, normal speed rails and 4,5 inch pockets. I think that would be the perfect setup to make pool an unique and recognizable sport. If that is impossible stay with the 9 footers, but keep the rest the same. Not this insane speed rails and deep shelf rattle pocket nonsense. I think the actual death of pool happened when Brunswick pulled out...but that's just an opinion.Then some even bigger idiot though it would be great if you played only on barboxes, but of course bar boxes with super fast cushions, cloths and small pockets...sigh
. Punting contests...That will help pool for sure.When will the tables be small and fast enough, I wonder? I posted a video of a guy with a barbox with ice for a playing surface (I thought it was an awesome idea as a fun project) I guess that will be the next evolution of pool in the US? Maybe the rails should be like a flipper machine as well?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAQrdOCi4MI
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Why do the British do so well at pool at the moment? Well, some mongoloid thought it would be a good idea to make pools cushions faster, the cloth faster and the pockets smaller. As a result you don't need much of a stroke, and the precise snooker style is better suited than the traditional pool style. I've said it many times, I wish you Americans could get some snooker tables over there and play it til you got it out of your system. Maybe then you'd stop trying to transform pool into snooker.
Then some even bigger idiot though it would be great if you played only on barboxes, but of course bar boxes with super fast cushions, cloths and small pockets...sigh
When will the tables be small and fast enough, I wonder? I posted a video of a guy with a barbox with ice for a playing surface (I thought it was an awesome idea as a fun project) I guess that will be the next evolution of pool in the US? Maybe the rails should be like a flipper machine as well?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAQrdOCi4MI
We've disagreed earlier in the thread, but you are 100% right here.
Modern conditions and equipment don't require stroke + accuracy anymore. Just accuracy.
They really aren't, though.
I'd still put the Filipinos and Taiwanese ahead (Ko is probably the most naturally gifted stroker since Earl). All they really have is Appleton. And snooker, they basically play against themselves.
They ain't good at 3 cushion, like your Scandinavian brothers (Blomdahl is just as good, if not better, than Ronnie at his particular game than Ronnie is at his. And Ceuelmans is from Mars. Out of this world.). Ain't good at Kaisa. Russian Pyramid. Banks. One pocket. The list goes on.
If this game reverted to thick cloth...I'd have to quit.
It's not just having to slug ball like a Neanderthal, it reduces the choices for even the
best players....therefore lowering the standards of the game.
The snooker world finally snapped to this, the faster cloth is one of the reasons for more
centuries....along with the natural growth of prowess by the players.
A lot of AZers like to hear the stories of the famous Rack in Detroit....at it's peak when
Gil Elias owned it, the cloth on all tables was FASTER than Simonis 760.
Many good rooms had fast cloth, the shoddiest rooms used cheap heavy cloth.
Many of the tournaments were subject to what the sponsors allowed for, so many were
played on cheap heavy cloth also.
What the hell is there to be nostalgic about?... It was like putting on an unmoved green.