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Why do top pool players play cards?
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Oops, forgot to make myself clear. I meant to say:
Still glad to provide expert imput any time,
pj
chgo
Patrick Johnson said:
I've said this for a long time.....most people who gamble on pool aren't necessarily the best players, but they are true gamblers. Yes, there are exceptions to this rule, but over the years, I've seen it many times. It doesn't matter to them if they are hitting a cue ball into a rack of balls or drawing cards off a deck, it's the gambling kick that's encouraging them to partake.
I have a little different slant on this.
I think it is because it is easy....Not in the sense that the game itself is easy, but the action is easy to get in (and out) real easy.
Pool
First you go on the road or to a local room looking for action...First you have to find the action..and dodge the nits or psycos....Then (if you do find action) your almost seemingly obligated to keep playing while this fish trys to win his money back...and this usually turns into a give me this spot or that spot until they can find the right spot.....all kinds of drama...
Poker.
Its really as simple as turning on your computer... However...just for the sake of human contact...you do go to the casino...Around here they are going 24/7 (pool rooms are not) and you can "always" get a game...You can play small 3/6 if you like or you can play 20/40 or 5-150 if you are looking to make a big score...No negotiating no "changing the game"...No Drama.....The best part is that if by chance you sit down and go on an immediate rush and find your stack tripled in less than an hour....You can rack up and walk away...There is no (unwritten) obligation for you to sit there another 4 hours while they others try and pick off your stack.
It is just too easy...
Interesting....I have heard peopl say that they play pool for money to earn enough for a buy in at the poker game...
Actually I have done that myself MANY times....I have gone to play in some weeknight event just to snap off enough money to get me a buy in at the casino......If I didn't win at pool I am out $20 or so...and I didn't go to the casino........I have lost count of how many times I have won $50 to $120 in some weeknight tournament and then go to the casio at 1:30am or the next day amd turned it into $300- $700...(actually 21K one time).......Then the wife took half...
Eh...those days are over....Damn I wish I was a C rated player again.....
I think it is because it is easy....Not in the sense that the game itself is easy, but the action is easy to get in (and out) real easy.
Pool
First you go on the road or to a local room looking for action...First you have to find the action..and dodge the nits or psycos....Then (if you do find action) your almost seemingly obligated to keep playing while this fish trys to win his money back...and this usually turns into a give me this spot or that spot until they can find the right spot.....all kinds of drama...
Poker.
Its really as simple as turning on your computer... However...just for the sake of human contact...you do go to the casino...Around here they are going 24/7 (pool rooms are not) and you can "always" get a game...You can play small 3/6 if you like or you can play 20/40 or 5-150 if you are looking to make a big score...No negotiating no "changing the game"...No Drama.....The best part is that if by chance you sit down and go on an immediate rush and find your stack tripled in less than an hour....You can rack up and walk away...There is no (unwritten) obligation for you to sit there another 4 hours while they others try and pick off your stack.
It is just too easy...
Interesting....I have heard peopl say that they play pool for money to earn enough for a buy in at the poker game...
Actually I have done that myself MANY times....I have gone to play in some weeknight event just to snap off enough money to get me a buy in at the casino......If I didn't win at pool I am out $20 or so...and I didn't go to the casino........I have lost count of how many times I have won $50 to $120 in some weeknight tournament and then go to the casio at 1:30am or the next day amd turned it into $300- $700...(actually 21K one time).......Then the wife took half...
Eh...those days are over....Damn I wish I was a C rated player again.....
Poker
Poker believe it or not is honestly a game of skill. Yes you need good cards to win but good poker players can win with any two cards if they really know how to play. I am referring specifically to texas holdem. If you play limit texas holdem like 3-6 you have to play solid starting cards period in order to really win and fold when they do not fit with the board because many 3-6 limit players will call with a crappy hand hoping to suck out and many will call to the river because you can not bet HIGH enough to get them out.
No limit on the other hand is a completely diff game a real seasoned player can play a wide variety of hands and win because he knows when to Bet, how much to bet, when to fold ect... especially when you have the choice to go all in at times or make large bets. Not many are willing to risk all there money or large chuncks of their money on a long shot in poker and the ones who are willing are the ones you want to play with you.
Poker always has action and requires great skill and patience along with the ability to read people in order to be successful over the long haul.
Pool sucks for making big scores or good money on a regular basis because everone NOW days especially, are very smart and tight with their doe, unless they have or think they have the nuts.
So if you are a good pool player and a good poker player, poker will win in the long run becasue of the action and money to be made. I have taken 100 dollars to a no limit game more times than I can remember and have turned it in to 2-3 thousand dollars in a matter of 24 hours, try that in pool.
So it should be obvious why poker is loved by many pool players. But make sure you do not have leaks in your bankroll, like the occasional trip to the strip club, playing roulette, blackjack, video poker, slots, drugs, alcohol. The casinos have all sucker games except for poker and are the bread and butter for the casinos.
You should look at the known statistics for winners out of 100 that walk into a casino, its somewhere around 1-3 percent that walk out with more than they came in with
Unless they are good poker players where you are pitted against others and not neccessarily against the casino.
Poker believe it or not is honestly a game of skill. Yes you need good cards to win but good poker players can win with any two cards if they really know how to play. I am referring specifically to texas holdem. If you play limit texas holdem like 3-6 you have to play solid starting cards period in order to really win and fold when they do not fit with the board because many 3-6 limit players will call with a crappy hand hoping to suck out and many will call to the river because you can not bet HIGH enough to get them out.
No limit on the other hand is a completely diff game a real seasoned player can play a wide variety of hands and win because he knows when to Bet, how much to bet, when to fold ect... especially when you have the choice to go all in at times or make large bets. Not many are willing to risk all there money or large chuncks of their money on a long shot in poker and the ones who are willing are the ones you want to play with you.
Poker always has action and requires great skill and patience along with the ability to read people in order to be successful over the long haul.
Pool sucks for making big scores or good money on a regular basis because everone NOW days especially, are very smart and tight with their doe, unless they have or think they have the nuts.
So if you are a good pool player and a good poker player, poker will win in the long run becasue of the action and money to be made. I have taken 100 dollars to a no limit game more times than I can remember and have turned it in to 2-3 thousand dollars in a matter of 24 hours, try that in pool.
So it should be obvious why poker is loved by many pool players. But make sure you do not have leaks in your bankroll, like the occasional trip to the strip club, playing roulette, blackjack, video poker, slots, drugs, alcohol. The casinos have all sucker games except for poker and are the bread and butter for the casinos.
You should look at the known statistics for winners out of 100 that walk into a casino, its somewhere around 1-3 percent that walk out with more than they came in with
Unless they are good poker players where you are pitted against others and not neccessarily against the casino.
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For the same reason poker pro's play poker... Money.
I would also be willing to bet that Fats never beat ANY seious poker player for any serious amount of money. If you call beating them in a hand, maybe, but over the course of a night Fats would have gone broke several times over.
I would also be willing to bet that Fats never beat ANY seious poker player for any serious amount of money. If you call beating them in a hand, maybe, but over the course of a night Fats would have gone broke several times over.
Dakota Cues said:
I'm not so sure about that. People talk junk about how Fatty couldn't play, but no one that I know of ever disputed that he was a REAL smart dude. It would not surprise me at all to find out he played very good poker. He had the tools. He was a good oddsmaker, and he was very observant.
Russ
Russ Chewning said:
Real smart or not, he would have gotten eaten alive at a table of pros. What tools do you mean he had? A big mouth? The ability to bluff? Both of those would have cost him a bundle in ANY game with halfways decent players.
I'm not saying he was a total fish, but let's face it, if he was as good a card player as you seem to think, why didn't he play cards instead of pool, seeing how the money in poker is roughly 10-100 TIMES what a pool player would see?
Easy money on the poker that playing pool...playing pool you have to pay hourly rate for table.....in poker just sits and play....i can bet $100 in one hand for just a minute and wins it in one flip of a card..in pool you can win $100 but you have to run 9 or 10 balls but it will be race to 5 or 9 lol..just my 02 cents
like ppl said already here..its the money...more money in poker than in pool..actually as im typing here, im playin poker online!!! not that im greqat at it but i have a better chance of makin a decent score here than playin a set of pool..(well, in my hometown anyways)
Its true there is more money in cards,but pool players always find a way to lose,if its not poker its keno,slots,horses,sports.Losers lose,the real winners in life have jobs or businesses,families and responsibilities,the kind of guys that these smarts call suckers.
It would be hard to pick a gambler who died anything but broke.Fats,Titanic you name them.The average pool player either has to borrow,beg,steal or dump to make a living,and the same is true for most poker players.
It would be hard to pick a gambler who died anything but broke.Fats,Titanic you name them.The average pool player either has to borrow,beg,steal or dump to make a living,and the same is true for most poker players.
The Beginner said:
In poker, if you play at a casino or online (and often in a lot of serious underground home games) you have to pay a rake, which generally costs a player two to three times as much as an hour of pool would cost.
However, despite that, there's still significantly more potential profit in poker.
Fatboy said:Tails?
Hehehe, can we run it twice?? better make it 3 times so we're sure there's a winner.....
Back in the 1970's, I asked a guy who was a top pool player, why he was betting his money on the horse races when he played at such a high level at pool. His answer went something like this: I've been all over the country gambling at pool, and it gets old when you go in a place and they tell you, "Yeah they were playing for $100 a game just last night." And when I finallly do get good action, I won $5000 down in Florida, a guy stuck a gun down my throat, and I game him all his money back and told him if that's not enough, I got some hid in the car.
Take that as you like, but the short of it is, it was and still is tough to make a dollar playing pool on the road. Most players are gamblers, and will gamble at other things. Some just for the action, others because they believe they have a slight edge in the game.
Take that as you like, but the short of it is, it was and still is tough to make a dollar playing pool on the road. Most players are gamblers, and will gamble at other things. Some just for the action, others because they believe they have a slight edge in the game.
Lets face it, Pool to most great pool players is like work, its hard to do all day, its for the most part boring to them and they have been doing it forever. Poker is quick and fun, until you start doing it all day everyday, then it would be like work also, then you would have to bet on the horses or out at the golf course ect...., its just something different to gamble at.
Now, if pool players, pool companies(tables, cues, cases, ect...) and tv would get serious about putting on a good show the "top" players would be to busy getting from one tournament to the next(like GOLFERS) making money to bother playing much cards.
Now, if pool players, pool companies(tables, cues, cases, ect...) and tv would get serious about putting on a good show the "top" players would be to busy getting from one tournament to the next(like GOLFERS) making money to bother playing much cards.