Why do we kill our own sport

[trob]

Why do we continue to allow people like pocket point destroy the game by belittling everyone who plays it? He's not the only on on here that does it. In this tough economy and with pool at a low playing the game in any form is a good thing to continue the growth of the game. I don't like apa or tap. Handicap leagues just aren't for me for various reasons but there's a lot of people playing in those leagues!! If it gets the average guy putting a cue stick in his hand and buying cues or anything related to supporting the game we love so what! Let them be happy doing it. I play leagues and tournaments and see the positives and negatives of both.

If there playing the game it's good for the game...no matter what form of play they take part in!

 

[bender_lu]

i cant imagine playing on a 7" table, i think the smallest i saw in a normal bar here is 8".
why do we kill our own sport, well

"If you want to be recogniced as a sport, start behaving like sportsmen"

and now watch the behaviour of a lot of players.....

 

[trob]

True to an extent.

I care about this game a great deal. Our sport is being raped by the leagues. Mainly BCA and APA. I know that house leagues can be operated in a way that is good for pool.

Playing on a bar box, even a diamond 7' table is not playing pool. These tables belong in a bar, where people want an activity to do while they are drinking. These people are not playing pool, even though they are utilizing pool cues and miniature pool tables.

So for 25 years I haven't been playing pool lol you crack me up.

You d not care about this game because every post you make is made to belittle and anger everyone on the forum. I'm not sure if your just a kid or a dim wit but either way you don't seem to u derstand how to post an opinion with immediately angering 3/4 of the people who read and there for not getting goo responses. People already have there guard up.

For example another thread you posted you said if you played pool 7 days a week you would only play 42 games a week and with the way you worded your posts you came off as saying if you play leagues you suck and so does everyone else. Your initial thought of the post wasn't bad. It was how you worded it! How bought saying playing nothing but league pool in my opinion isn't going to make you a better player in the long run. I can see why someone might enjoy going out to play in one or two a week but playing 4 games a night is detrimental to your game.

A post like that will get an honest discussion because your not offending everyone right off the bat.

Btw I wish I could play on 9 footers. But as in most areas it seems....all our pool halls are shut down. The only 9 footers left our at the clubs. I do play in a straight pool league at one. I guess that counts as playing pool

 

[leehayes]

I am sure of this. Without leagues such as the BCA, APA and TAP the sport of pool would be dead. I love playing pool. In fact I play in league 3 nights a week. Play on my home table or out another 2 to 3 nights a week. Play in tournaments and every thing else I can.

I am intrigued by the game. I'm not the greatest player but I am decent, an APA 7 and last I knew a BCA 9. Over the last 8 years I have spent probably between 15 and 20 thousand dollars on pool related items, entry fees etc. This doesn't include my league fees. If it were not for an APA pool league I would not be playing at all and all of that money would have been spent on something else.

I know many players who would have never played pool if it weren't for someone coaxing them into joining a team.

So, if you want to totally kill the sport of pool, get rid of the leagues. And if you want to make sure there are just less people playing? Just keep telling everyone you know that leagues are a waste of time.

Then one day you can really wonder why all of the pool halls have closed.

 

[Neil]

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[cuesblues]

True to an extent.

I care about this game a great deal. Our sport is being raped by the leagues. Mainly BCA and APA. I know that house leagues can be operated in a way that is good for pool.

Playing on a bar box, even a diamond 7' table is not playing pool. These tables belong in a bar, where people want an activity to do while they are drinking. These people are not playing pool, even though they are utilizing pool cues and miniature pool tables.

I don't believe that you care about pool or AZ Billiards.
There is something missing from all of the ridiculous comments that you are not disclosing, but if I met you in person I could figure it out very quickly.
Get past this obsession with the leagues, and stop trying to be the forum clown.
You contradict yourself every time you post this useless drivel.
If you love the game then play wherever the action is...bar box, 5 x 10, any game, any rules, like SVB.

Now that you can't play leagues in your area be careful because regardless of the size of their tables, room owners don't want people with your attitude around.
It's bad for business unless you are racking up big bar tabs, and I highly doubt that.
The room owners I know would listen to about 2-minutes of this crap and tell you to get the **** out.

 

[macguy]

True to an extent.

I care about this game a great deal. Our sport is being raped by the leagues. Mainly BCA and APA. I know that house leagues can be operated in a way that is good for pool.

Playing on a bar box, even a diamond 7' table is not playing pool. These tables belong in a bar, where people want an activity to do while they are drinking. These people are not playing pool, even though they are utilizing pool cues and miniature pool tables.

How did you happen to even end up on a bar league in the first place? Were all these revelations recently formed? I like bar tables but not leagues. I love 9-ball on the bar box, but I am also a 100 ball runner on the big table. I can appreciate what each has to offer. I also like all games from 14-1 to one pocket to three cushion billiards (high run 13) and play all games with reasonable skills. I don't understand your dislike for pool except in the most narrow forms. You know you are not a player I don't believe just one of those guys that hang around and what bikers refer to as "posers" a pretend player, players don't talk like you. You have made enough posts for a profile of you to have formed. In a post not long ago you say you haven't played enough 14-1 to even know the rules yet you have an opinion on everything. What actually is you playing background?

 

[Rich R.]

True to an extent.

I care about this game a great deal. Our sport is being raped by the leagues. Mainly BCA and APA. I know that house leagues can be operated in a way that is good for pool.

You have it all wrong. The leagues, mainly the BCA and APA, are keeping poolrooms open. It is guaranteed business every week for a room. When the leagues dry up so will the game of pool.
In house leagues can also do well and create business in a room. I play in one myself. However, you need a room owner or someone else in the room to organize and run the league. There are a lot of people, like you, who like to ***** but you don't step up and do the job.

Playing on a bar box, even a diamond 7' table is not playing pool. These tables belong in a bar, where people want an activity to do while they are drinking. These people are not playing pool, even though they are utilizing pool cues and miniature pool tables.

Who says you have to play on a bar box just because you're in a league?
You may have to play on bar boxes when you go to higher level playoffs but you don't have to play on them on a weekly basis. I've been playing in the APA for over 10 years, in 3 different locations. Everyone of my leagues has been in-house, not travel leagues, and I have always played on 9' gold crowns and diamond pros. You just have to be a little picky about where you play and support the places that provide the best equipment.

 

[Bamacues]

True to an extent.

I care about this game a great deal. Our sport is being raped by the leagues. Mainly BCA and APA. I know that house leagues can be operated in a way that is good for pool.

Playing on a bar box, even a diamond 7' table is not playing pool. These tables belong in a bar, where people want an activity to do while they are drinking. These people are not playing pool, even though they are utilizing pool cues and miniature pool tables.

Maybe it is not what you like, but it is playing pool. Just because people don't share your interests and beliefs doesn't mean a damned thing.

You just want attention.

The leagues are fantastic for folks...all of them. The weak players, the strong players, the room owners and the league operators. The fact that the leagues continue to grow in a bad economy is proof of that.

I grew up as a snooker player on a big table. I prefer playing on a 9' able, but a 7' able brings its own particular skill set into play. It is unfortunate hatyou can't play on them as well, but this the way it is.

As for in house leagues, they have their own problems. We have APA 82 league teams at the pool room, and 1 in-house league....only one of those league nights is played on 7' tables, the rest are on 9' tables. The APA leagues bring in 648 players and the in-house league brings in 20...every week. Which one helps pay the rent the most?

If you had a better idea or the skill set to put in into play, well, I guess we would all be playing in the PocketPoint or maybe the "Pocket-pool" league.

Joe

 

[RBC]

True to an extent.

I care about this game a great deal. Our sport is being raped by the leagues. Mainly BCA and APA. I know that house leagues can be operated in a way that is good for pool.

Playing on a bar box, even a diamond 7' table is not playing pool. These tables belong in a bar, where people want an activity to do while they are drinking. These people are not playing pool, even though they are utilizing pool cues and miniature pool tables.

So just how is the BCA raping pool?

You don't have any idea what you're talking about. Pool leagues like the BCA and the APA are the only thing that really works in pool these days.

Here is an open invitation. If you would like to come to the Dallas area, I would be happy to talk with you in person. Maybe you could explain your views a little more in depth, and I could do the same. We could even play some 8 ball on both 7's and 9's. I'm game! If you can't come to Dallas, we could meet when I'm out. I go to the bigger pool events around the country, so PM me and let me know if you are near, or could go to one. I'd love to sit down with you and talk about it.

 

[Pushout]

PP is entitled to his opinion but I have him on ignore and have almost from the time he showed up here. I used to believe in the game a lot more than I do now. I agree somewhat with the idea that leagues are keeping the game alive but the behavior of the participants is one of the big things that keeps me from wanting to be in a league, ever again. I haven't played in a league in a long, long time. League play is/never was a "night out for fun" for me. The leagues I played in were run in a commercial billiard room where it was illegal to sell alcohol. I've never played in a bar league and probably never will. We played pool, "no bar, no pinball, just pool". It was fun, bar leagues are not fun for me, I don't drink and haven't in over thirty years now. I have no problem with others drinking but when people get intoxicated and mix pool with the drinking it ain't fun anymore. Fights and drunken behavior are not for me, thank you.

 

[CocoboloCowboy]

True to an extent.

I care about this game a great deal. Our sport is being raped by the leagues. Mainly BCA and APA. I know that house leagues can be operated in a way that is good for pool.

Playing on a bar box, even a diamond 7' table is not playing pool. These tables belong in a bar, where people want an activity to do while they are drinking. These people are not playing pool, even though they are utilizing pool cues and miniature pool tables.

Wake up most Pool in 2011 is played on Bar Boxes, NO BIG TABLES.

 

[Sam Waltz]

Whatchu talkin' 'bout Willis?

True to an extent.

I care about this game a great deal. Our sport is being raped by the leagues. Mainly BCA and APA. I know that house leagues can be operated in a way that is good for pool.

Playing on a bar box, even a diamond 7' table is not playing pool. These tables belong in a bar, where people want an activity to do while they are drinking. These people are not playing pool, even though they are utilizing pool cues and miniature pool tables.

Your like a stream of sewage...744 posts of CRAP! All I read now is bla, bla, bla-bla, bla, blah, blipity blah, blupity blopity blah bla from you!

You have now been added to the never ending list of crybaby attention whores sponsored by Kleenex! And here I am givin' ya your fix! Oh well, grab some of your tissues and cry me a river sweetheart, I've got a never ending supply of happy pills!

Where can I get one of those, "I'm a TROLL" T-Shirts man? :thumbup:

PS

 

[corpse]

True to an extent.

I care about this game a great deal. Our sport is being raped by the leagues. Mainly BCA and APA. I know that house leagues can be operated in a way that is good for pool.

Playing on a bar box, even a diamond 7' table is not playing pool. These tables belong in a bar, where people want an activity to do while they are drinking. These people are not playing pool, even though they are utilizing pool cues and miniature pool tables.

Ok we get it you don,t like bar tables or leagues, now please get out of your moms basement and get some sunshine.

 

[brandoncook26]

The solution is easy. No one respond to pocket point's threads. If no one posts in them they will run down the list very quickly and die. If he starts bumping his own threads to keep them up front we can report him to the mod.

I am in favor of free speech, but he is simply trying to encite people's emotions. He isn't added constructively to the conversation. When he begins to do that, we can again respond. It is a very simple solution.

How many threads has he started in the past few days about barbox 8 ball, 10+?

 

[Scaramouche]

Actually, PP is doing a market survey.

If you guys would simply agree with him, he will pour his money into opening a room with 12 ft snooker tables, 9 ft diamonds, and no leagues or other fixtures he may detest.

We can all cheer as he goes broke.

 

[cbi1000]

True to an extent.

I care about this game a great deal. Our sport is being raped by the leagues. Mainly BCA and APA. I know that house leagues can be operated in a way that is good for pool.

Playing on a bar box, even a diamond 7' table is not playing pool. These tables belong in a bar, where people want an activity to do while they are drinking. These people are not playing pool, even though they are utilizing pool cues and miniature pool tables.

Whatever, now i understand what the OP'er was talking about.

 

[snapem]

Leagues

The only thing i don't like about the APA is the sandbagging if your 7 or 6 play at your skill level. too many people are to stay low for vegas or for whatever the reason is.. But that is the rules and every player wants that little advantage Imo

 

[ironman]

True to an extent.

I care about this game a great deal. Our sport is being raped by the leagues. Mainly BCA and APA. I know that house leagues can be operated in a way that is good for pool.

Playing on a bar box, even a diamond 7' table is not playing pool. These tables belong in a bar, where people want an activity to do while they are drinking. These people are not playing pool, even though they are utilizing pool cues and miniature pool tables.

True to an extent! I don't like leagues either and feel they just offer promoting mediocrity and offer little more to the game. There are though some promoters who work their butts off to do a good job.

Some hav choices though and skill levels. Some really love the game and could care less about the money involved. I could care less about anything but the money when I play, but just look out in Vegas every year and I am far outnumberd.
I guess I hae decided I am for anything which promotes large crowds of people and vendors who need to mak a living in a very overly saturated market. After all the vendors are the main reason the BCA puts on this event each year. It is not for the love of the game or the players!

 

[cbi1000]

To you, and everyone else that thinks that a 7' table is not a real pool table or is a kids toy- how many racks have you run on one???? From my experience, almost everyone that complains about bar boxes being too easy can't string racks on one. They feel like they should be able to, but can't, so they go to a little larger table for an excuse for their misses.

I agree 100%. I have taken plenty of cash from people who think 7' tables are too easy.