Why doesn't the IPT talk more about what cues players are using

Bishop

Bishop

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I know it their job to discuss the games at hand but it would be nice to know what these guys are playing with. I know these days everything is money related and sponser related but surely they can find a blurb or two about the equipment. I think most viewer would like the info. I find myself always looking at the cues these guys are playing with and left wondering.

Plus is it just me or did Mike Sigel look like he has tourette's Syndrome.
 
Maybe since most of the players aren't paid to endorse the cues (and neither is the IPT) they don't give as much attention as we would like. Even in Golf you don't hear commentators talk about the type of clubs or even the company player's are sponsored by. Logos do all the talking I guess.
 
I'm sure thats the reason but I think they are missing a nice key point of discussion by at least not mentioning it. A player profile breakdown or something would be helpful. I guess like everything else in this world money talks.
 
Bishop said:
I know it their job to discuss the games at hand but it would be nice to know what these guys are playing with.
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Do a search. There's a thread here in the archives on which rackmsuckr did a LOT of work finding out what cues the IPT players will be using.

It's likely in the IPT Forum.
 
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Yeah, but an in depth listing, including maintenance would be excellent. Maybe a format of the most asked questions could be put together, like taper, tip size, tip hardness preferred, etc. etc. along with comments.

Something like that would probably appeal to many readers, I wonder if each player would take the time to fill out something like that?
 
Here... I'll save ya the trouble of doing the search...

1/Acosta, Roland- Widowmaker, original shaft
2/Adkins, Dee- Nova, OB-1
3/Alcaide, David- Buffalo, Smart Shaft
4/Alvarez, Frank- Predator, Predator Z
5/Appleton, Darren- Predator, Predator Z
6/Archer, Johnny- Scorpion, original shaft
7/Bartram, Chris- Custom cue, predator shaft
8/Basavich, Daniel- Pechauer, Predator 314
9/Beaufils, Yannick- ................................
10/Breedlove, George- Rick Howard, original shaft
11/Brienza, Paul- Judd Fuller, original shaft
12/Broadhurst, Jackie- ................................
13/Bryant, Charles- Olivier cue, X-shaft
14/Bustamante, Francisco- Bear, Predator(?)
15/Butera, Lou- ................................
16/Butera, Sal- Mali, X-shaft
17/Calderon, Jerry- Buffalo, original shaft
18/Carter, Linda- Viking, original shaft
19/Carvajal, Alejandro- ................................
20/Catledge, Wayne- Nitti, Predator 314
21/Cernero, Michael- Mike Bender, original shaft
22/Chamat, Marcus- Predator, Predator 314
23/Chenman, Lee- Predator, Predator 314
24/Chohan, Tony- Bobby Hunter, unspecified shaft
25/Colenso, Colin- Jian Ying, original shaft
26/Corr, Karen- Custom, unspecified shaft
27/Crane, Wade- Schon, original shaft
28/Czetli, Aaron- Jacoby, unspecified shaft
29/Daulton, Shannon- Schon, original shaft
30/Davenport, Kim- Gus Szamboti, original shaft
31/Davis, Mike- Eddie Anderson, Predator 314
32/Deuel, Corey- Woodpecker, Predator 314
33/Di Liberto, Dann- ................................
34/Di Toro, John- Pechauer, unspecified shaft
35/Dodson, Robin- Casanova, original shaft
36/Dominguez, Ernesto- Tad, original shaft
37/Eberle, Max- Schon, Predator 314
38/Eckert, Ralph- Arthur, original shaft
39/ Edey, Tyler- Predator, Predator 314
40/Ellerby, Sarah- Lucasi, Smart Shaft
41/Facquet, Vincent- Thierry Chevron, original shaft
42/Feijen, Niels- Longoni, Predator 314
43/Fisher, Allison- Cuetec, original shaft
44/Fisher, Kelly- Fury, Predator 314
45/Földes, Vilmos - ....................................
46/Frank, Troy- Mike Guluassy, X shaft
47/Franken, Aaron- Dishaw, original shaft
48/Friend, Bernie- Mali, regular shaft (Capone Jr.)
49/Fusco, Jimmy- ................................
50/Fusco, Pete- ................................
51/Gay, Leil- Cognoscenti, original shaft
52/Goh, Tuan Kiat- Meucci, Predator 314
53/Gonzalez, Rafael- Predator, Predator 314
54/Groce, Brian- Madison Bob, original shaft
55/Gulyassy, Mike- Gulyassy, X shaft
56/Hann, Quinten- ................................
57/Harrison, Philip- ................................
58/Hatch, Dennis- Schon cue, predator shaft
59/Hill, Mick- Custom, Predator Z
60/Hofstatter, Gerda- Predator, Predator Z
61/Hohmann, Thorsten- Lucasi, Smart shaft
62/Holtz, Patrick- Falcon, Predator 314
63/Hopkins, Allen- Prather, original shaft
64/Hundal, Raj- Bear, Predator 314
65/Hunter, Bobby- Bobby Hunter, original shaft
66/Immonen, Mika- Mezz, Hybrid Pro
67/Incardona, William- Cognoscenti, regular shaft
68/Jahnke, Bernd- ................................
69/Jakulj, Zlatko- Ivan H Cue, original shaft
70/Jones, Loree Jon- Meucci, original shaft
71/Jones, Jeremy- Schuler, original shaft
72/Jones, Sammy- Meucci, original shaft
73/Jones, Tammy- Mike Stacy, Fusion shaft
74/Juva, Markus- Edwin Reyes, Edwin shaft
75/Keller, Ryan- Schon, regular shaft(Pettit)
76/Kelly, Ed- ................................
77/Kennedy, Thomas- SouthWest, original shaft
78/Kenniston, Mary- ................................
79/Kiamco, Warren- Predator, Predator 314
80/Klasovic, Andreja- Bear
81/Kutcher, John- Southwest, original shaft
82/Laurance, Ewa- Bob Hunter, original shaft
83/LeBron, Mike- ................................
84/Lely, Alex- Predator, Predator Z
85/Leonardo, Gunnar- ................................
86/Lohtander, Marko- Mezz, Predator 314
87/Macias, John- ................................
88/Manabu, Mori- Lambros, original shaft
89/Manalo, Marlon- Paul Drexler, Predator 314
90/Martin, Ray- ................................
91/Massey, Mike- Schuler, original shaft
92/Mathews, Grady- Scruggs, original shaft
93/McCready, Keith- Jack Madden, original shaft
94/Mckenna, Robert- ................................
95/Miller, Jason- Dufferin, regular shaft by Schon
96/Minici, Joe- ................................
97/Montal, Edwin- Schon Cue, Tiger "X" Shaft
98/Morris, Carl- ................................
99/Morris, Rodney- Szamboti, original shaft
100/Murphy, Austin- Fury, original shaft
101/Ouahbi, Amine- Thierry Chevron, original shaft
102/Orcollo, Dennis- Mezz, hybrid pro
103/Ortmann, Oliver- Kruger, original shaft
104/O'Sullivan, Ronnie- Parris Cue, Predator Z
105/Owen, Gabe- Troy Downey, original shaft
106/Pagulayan- Alex- Schon, Predator 314
107/Parica, Jose- Judd Fuller, Tiger X
108/Peach, Daryl- Viking, Predator 314
109/Petroni, Fabio- Cognoscenti, unspecified shaft
110/Potier, Paul- Deroo, Deroo shaft
111/Putnam, Shawn- Josey, Tiger X
112/Putnik, Ivica- Bear cue, original shaft
113/Raney, Jim- ................................
114/Raybone, Neil- ................................
115/Reljic, David- ................................
116/Rempe, Jim- Meucci, Meucci shaft
117/Reyes, Efren- Judd, original shaft
118/Roberts, James- ................................
119/Robles, Tony- Predator, Predator 314
120/Runnels, Ike- Darrin Hill
121/Sakai, Miyuki- Gina, Predator 314
122/Saleh, Brian- Dale Perry, Predator Z
123/Salvas, Luc- Schon, original shaft
124/San Souci, George- SouthWest,Predator 314
125/Santl, Stefan- Jacoby, original shaft
126/Schmidt, John- Bobby Hunter, regular shaft custom
127/Schwartz, Larry- Cognoscenti, original shaft
128/Sigel, Mike- Mike Sigel, original shaft
129/Souquet, Ralf- Joss, Predator 314
130/Stalev, Evgeny- Pyramid
131/Storm, Tom- ................................
132/Strickland, Earl- Cuetec, regular shaft
133/Thornfeldt, Helena- Judd, regular shaft
134/Tourangeau, Stan- Predator, Predator 314
135/Townsend, Scotty- ................................
136/Travers, Laurent- Thierry Chevron, regular shaft
137/Van Boening, Shane- Joss, OB-1
138/Van den Berg, Nick- Musashi, Musashi shaft
139/Varner, Nick- Nick Varner, original shaft
140/Vickery, Howard- ................................
141/Watson, Gerry- ................................
142/Webb, Monica- Judd, original shaft
143/West, Dallas- ................................
144/Wetch, Jimmy- ................................
145/Wheeler, Adam- Sigel Custom, original shaft
146/White, Jimmy- John Parris, original shaft
147/Williams, Charlie- Predator, Predator Z
148/Wims, John- ................................
149/Younger, Johl- unspecified snooker cue, original shaft
150/Zimmerman, Michael-Roger Pettit, Dave Jones, original shaft

Original/regular shaft: 61(51.69%)

Predator 314: 26(22.03%)

Predator Z: 8 (6.77%)

Unspecified shaft: 7(5.93%)

Tiger X shaft: 6 (5.08%)

OB-1: 3(2.54%)

Universal Smart shaft: 3 (2.54%)

Hybride shaft: 1 (0.8%)

Edwin shaft:1 (0.8%)

Deroo shaft:1 (0.8%)

Fushion shaft:1 (0.8%)

Musashi shaft:1 (0.8%)

Total; 118
 
As noted, player equipment choices are nearly never mentioned in golf. Do you want to know what kind of glove a baseball player uses in the field or what brand of tennis racket the top players use? Most fans don't believe that the equipment much matters. Those who telelcast sporting events realize this, and spare the fans from analysis of the equipment choices of the professionals.

Let's add to this that serious players are not the target market of the IPT, and nobody other than a serious player cares a lick about the equipment.

The average fan of pool is familiar with two types of cues: one piece and two piece. In addition, the average fan of pool is aware of two kinds of tips: glue on and screw on.
 
Thats why I suggested just a blurb or short convo for those that are interested. We don't need a thirty minute segment on it but I'd like to have some info.
 
The IPT Focus is to to Promote cue for Maker, Dealers, etc. Think they would be willing to talk all about cues if the MONEY was Right....IMO
 
sjm said:
As noted, player equipment choices are nearly never mentioned in golf. Do you want to know what kind of glove a baseball player uses in the field or what brand of tennis racket the top players use? Most fans don't believe that the equipment much matters. Those who telelcast sporting events realize this, and spare the fans from analysis of the equipment choices of the professionals.

Let's add to this that serious players are not the target market of the IPT, and nobody other than a serious player cares a lick about the equipment.

The average fan of pool is familiar with two types of cues: one piece and two piece. In addition, the average fan of pool is aware of two kinds of tips: glue on and screw on.
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I think as they say in the Supreme Court I'm going to have to concur in part and dissent in part here. I agree absolutely with your statement that the people that the IPT is trying to appeal to don't give a rats behind what equipment the players are using because the information would be meaningless to them. Heck, I like to think I follow pool quite closely, but when I hear about certain shafts or certain custom cuemakers it doesn't mean a helluva lot to me. So I think this is probably the primary reason. However, I have to disagree on the point that people don't care much what equipment golfers are using. Infact, I think people care so much about what clubs the pros are using they overlook what equipment they should be buying to best fit their game. Most golfers (even average or below average ones) are equipment obsessed. Now you may not hear Johnny Miller talking about equipment that they guys are using, but it does happen a fair amount of the time especially when the player has made an equipment chage of some sort. Also, many times golf publications will dedicate great portions of their magazines and sometimes entire issues to equipment related stories.
 
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I think

that a 'Behind the scenes' look of the tour and upcoming tournament, say 2-4 days prior to tournament time, with an overview, talks with some tour members, equipment picks of the pros, background on some 'hot' tour members, and things of this nature would be very interesting for all the
league and serious players out there watching and waiting for the tournament.

Just a special 1 hour segment, I think, would help garner support for the tournament and tour. Actually, I think it should be before every IPT
tournament.
 
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