Why is it harder to jump balls on some tables?

ARROWCRUSHER

ARROWCRUSHER

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I have been just getting my jump down and iv'e found on some tables i can't jump the same as i can on others. Well what i mean is i play on a 9ft. Gold crown and have no problems jumping but when i play on a bar box tables at the place i play league i cant jump for sh-t.... I dont know what the problem is i heard it may be because of the cloth, then i heard different type of slate. Let me know what you think or you opinions , thanks <,<ed
 
The only real variable would be the cloth (i think). Unless you are playing on a surface other than slate. I forgot, maybe the balls too could have something to do with it.

Happens to my friend all the time when he is showing off he great jumping ability.
 
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ARROWCRUSHER said:
I have been just getting my jump down and iv'e found on some tables i can't jump the same as i can on others. Well what i mean is i play on a 9ft. Gold crown and have no problems jumping but when i play on a bar box tables at the place i play league i cant jump for sh-t.... I dont know what the problem is i heard it may be because of the cloth, then i heard different type of slate. Let me know what you think or you opinions , thanks <,<ed
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A lot of times bartable cue balls are heavier then 9-foot cue balls. That alone will make it much more difficult to jump.

BVal
 
ARROWCRUSHER said:
I have been just getting my jump down and iv'e found on some tables i can't jump the same as i can on others. Well what i mean is i play on a 9ft. Gold crown and have no problems jumping but when i play on a bar box tables at the place i play league i cant jump for sh-t.... I dont know what the problem is i heard it may be because of the cloth, then i heard different type of slate. Let me know what you think or you opinions , thanks <,<ed
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Real fast cloth makes it tough. The ball just skids along. If you are not on a rug, it's 3x as hard.
 
Thats what i was thinking about the cloth cause we open the tables and use a red circle cue ball , someone said the cloth may be thicker..
 
believe it or not, the thickness of the slate plays a part as well. it is usually a little easier to jump on tables that have a thicker slate.
 
could be too on short rail jumps taht you might try to "baby" it like I used to do. I was worried I would Jump it too far and be off the bar tables. just a thought
 
A lot of bar tables have cloth that has a backer to make it more durable and less likely to rip when drunks drag their cue across the felt. This makes it harder to jump because you have much more cushion before you get to the slate.
 
Nostroke said:
Real fast cloth makes it tough. The ball just skids along. If you are not on a rug, it's 3x as hard.
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I'm far from a good jumper, but when I had my super fast cloth put on I got worse...a lot worse. In the morning when humidity is on the high side I can jump fair. In the afternoon in the heat and low humidity I can't get as much loft/jump. So I would agree with Nostroke here. Johnnyt
 
ARROWCRUSHER said:
I have been just getting my jump down and iv'e found on some tables i can't jump the same as i can on others. Well what i mean is i play on a 9ft. Gold crown and have no problems jumping but when i play on a bar box tables at the place i play league i cant jump for sh-t.... I dont know what the problem is i heard it may be because of the cloth, then i heard different type of slate. Let me know what you think or you opinions , thanks <,<ed
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Some of the barbox cueballs play much differently than cb used on 9 footers. The older barbox cb are harder to draw and jump. Table height can be an issue when jumpming too. If the table is higher than normal, jumping will be difficult, unless you are 7 foot tall. :eek:
 
Majic said:
Some of the barbox cueballs play much differently than cb used on 9 footers. The older barbox cb are harder to draw and jump. Table height can be an issue when jumpming too. If the table is higher than normal, jumping will be difficult, unless you are 7 foot tall. :eek:
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He said they use a red dot on the BB's he plays on. But I agree that a tall person has an easier time jumping. I proved it to myself...all 5' 6" of me. I got a 5" piece of wood and stood on it. What difference, I thought I was SVB for a minute...then I had to break...back to normal. Johnnyt
 
I guess my pool room is different. You get the balls for the tables at the counter. no balls in the tables. so you would play with the same Cue ball on any table. did not know the balls were different at other houses.
 
The next time you are going to play on those BB's bring a little 2" square piece of pool cloth to put under the QB. If you can jump better...there is your answer. Johnnyt
 
Hey johnny, thanks i was thinking about trying that also . Lol .i to am vertically challenged i am only 5'8" so i have a liitle problem at my friends house seems his table is higher then other cause he had it set up that way cause he is 6'7" and has a bad back, i will try that thanks << ed
 
Craig was right! The thicker the slate the easier to jump.

thicker the slate the easier to jump plus scuff your tip.

craig

Seems this Craig knows his stuff! All else remaining equal, the thicker the slate the easier to jump. Thickness of slate is main factor even when all else fails to remain equal.
for a better game,
Eddie Robin
 
Here Here, jeez this isn't rocket science. Most bar boxes have 3/4" slate. Most pool tables have 1" or thicker slates. The 3/4" has more give, its the give that makes jumping more difficult. All else being equal slate and bracing are the major factors.

Rod
 
> A LOT of the bar tables in my area have been switched to some kind of fast,unnapped,unbacked cloth in the last few years.

This,added to the possibility of a recent switch to maybe a 3/4 slate in bar tables,and the local vendors putting out those really cheap cue balls with the green Aramith logo make it pretty rough to jump a ball in the bars without great technique AND a jump cue.

The old school "shiny" Valley and Dynamo cue balls were never a problem to jump,especially when combined with nappy cloth,which almost always has the rubber backing.

The dull "slug" balls and the really old oversize balls have never been much of a factor locally.

The 8 footers at the only pool room in town have 1" slate,Red Circles,and the old,rubber backed slow cloth. In there,leaving me behind a full ball with more than a 6" gap means I'M NOT HOOKED,even without a jump cue. Jumping with my playing cue in there is EASY for me,using my jump cue is stealing. Tommy D.
 
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