Why Pivot?

SpiderWebComm said:
Pete, I'm dead serious about what I posted to PJ. All you have to do is get on the plane and play. No nerves, no concern for anything. Just play.
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My man, that guy ain't gonna' do nothing.
He's just like every four-flushing pool room detective you've ever seen.
All show and no dough....wouldn't get up and bet that water was wet.
Know-it-alls have always been that way. They woof, bark, make absurd propositions and then they fold like a cheap suit when someone calls their hand.
(another computer pool expert shot down) *Lowenstein carves another notch in the handle of his pool stick*:wink:
Keep an eye out for any other chump who wants to bet that I'm not better than 1 out of 8 on spot shots from behind the line. We can make some money..$$.
You know that old saying about getting the women....."Just keep on asking, some good looking girl out there somewhere will be crazy enough to take you up on it."
Life goes on.
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Low500 said:
Keep an eye out for any other chump who wants to bet that I'm not better than 1 out of 8 on spot shots from behind the line.
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Again, nobody has said you couldn't. You simply didn't understand what you read (apparently still don't).

pj
chgo
 
Patrick Johnson said:
Again, nobody has said you couldn't. You simply didn't understand what you read (apparently still don't).

pj
chgo
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How on God’s good blue Simonis covered Earth would anyone be able to prove what *anyone* claimed to be seeing/using to shoot/aim?!

I could say I was seeing unicorns and turquoise colored leprechauns to show me the angles, lol.

Lou Figueroa
pay up, suckar
 
lfigueroa said:
How on God’s good blue Simonis covered Earth would anyone be able to prove what *anyone* claimed to be seeing/using to shoot/aim?!

I could say I was seeing unicorns and turquoise colored leprechauns to show me the angles, lol.

Lou Figueroa
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At least it would be more descriptive and definitive than what you do say. Typically players will say what they use, but not all the time. More so with some pros because they don't want to be bothered.
 
lfigueroa said:
How on God’s good blue Simonis covered Earth would anyone be able to prove what *anyone* claimed to be seeing/using to shoot/aim?!

I could say I was seeing unicorns and turquoise colored leprechauns to show me the angles, lol.

Lou Figueroa
pay up, suckar
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That's only one of the problems with this "bet". As usual, it has nothing to do with demonstrating the truth of anything - just the usual dick-swinging "who plays better" challenge about nothing, because that's all they understand. If they were arguing with Einstein about Relativity they'd challenge him to an arm wrestling match.

pj
chgo
 
lfigueroa said:
It’s just his PSR.

He switches hands to chalk and then swings the cue back to his grip hand as part of how he descends and gets into final shooting position. There is no pivot and even if there were, as with many players, it’s just a part of their PSR.

Some of you guys should take up reading tea leaves or lamb entrails, lol.

Lou Figueroa
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Watch Efren pivot.
https://youtu.be/8DYDMMw5TtE?t=2
 
For all the "Panty wearing" truth bettors who want something proven on the table,
I'm just posting a friendly reminder that Stan has offered to take ANYONE up on that type of bet in Kentucky.

I can't remember his odds but he's willing to payout $25,000 if he doesn't prove CTE is what it's supposed to be and taught against either $10,000 or maybe it was only $1,000.

Now THAT is an incentive! No takers so far. What "truth bettor" big mouth will take the challenge first? That kind of payout will buy a lifetime worth of panties!
 
SpiderWebComm said:
For all the "Panty wearing" truth bettors who want something proven on the table,
I'm just posting a friendly reminder that Stan has offered to take ANYONE up on that type of bet in Kentucky.

I can't remember his odds but he's willing to payout $25,000 if he doesn't prove CTE is what it's supposed to be and taught against either $10,000 or maybe it was only $1,000.

Now THAT is an incentive! No takers so far. What "truth bettor" big mouth will take the challenge first? That kind of payout will buy a lifetime worth of panties!
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lol Thanks for the perfect example.

Nobody will ever take that bet because Stan, like you and Low500, doesn't have any idea what's needed to prove anything (or even what needs to be proved) - nobody believes there will ever be agreement on who won the bet.

Just more irrelevant bluster.

pj
chgo
 
JoeyInCali said:
Watch Efren pivot.
https://youtu.be/8DYDMMw5TtE?t=2
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Don't see it. What I do see is a typical, loose and side swooping, Philippino style stroke. The slight sideward waver in the back stroke and then again in the forward stroke is not what I'd call a pivot. It's more of an artistic stroke flaw, when compared to what is considered a traditional standard pendulum stroke.
 
Patrick Johnson said:
lol Thanks for the perfect example.

Nobody will ever take that bet because Stan, like you and Low500, doesn't have any idea what's needed to prove anything (or even what needs to be proved)

Only YOU in your infinite wisdom can do that.

- nobody believes there will ever be agreement on who won the bet.

If it's on video it can be. I know where you can pick up five votes right off the bat.

Just more irrelevant bluster.

Just more whining and back peddling from a known panty wearer.

pj
chgo
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I'm sure Stan would be more than willing to come to terms on the ground rules. Do you have the balls (ooops, wrong anatomy for you) to negotiate the rules?

Lets see, you don't have the cajones to go up against an older man than you on the table and don't want to consider the bet Stan put out or set the ground rules.

I think you need to post some more colorful, dazzling, graphics with CB, OB and lines through them to a pocket so your crowd of admirers can get wowed. Don't forget to add some math and algebra. (like any of that crap matters)
 
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BC21 said:
Don't see it. What I do see is a typical, loose and side swooping, Philippino style stroke. The slight sideward waver in the back stroke and then again in the forward stroke is not what I'd call a pivot. It's more of an artistic stroke flaw, when compared to what is considered a traditional standard pendulum stroke.
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He also let's the cue slip.
 
JoeyInCali said:
He also let's the cue slip.
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I noticed that. Very loose, flamboyant stroke, like a painter just nonchalantly brushing away on his next masterpiece like it's nothing. I think Bustamante's stroke is my favorite though.
 
JoeyInCali said:
Watch Efren pivot.
https://youtu.be/8DYDMMw5TtE?t=2
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Them Filipinos and the Asians everywhere got some type of secret weapon in making them balls and they're collectively not about to let us gringo Americans know what it is either.
I don't blame 'em one bit.
They know how to stick together. They're great for the game as players and as gentlemen and ladies...(Earl take note, my man)
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SpiderWebComm said:
For all the "Panty wearing" truth bettors who want something proven on the table,
I'm just posting a friendly reminder that Stan has offered to take ANYONE up on that type of bet in Kentucky.

I can't remember his odds but he's willing to payout $25,000 if he doesn't prove CTE is what it's supposed to be and taught against either $10,000 or maybe it was only $1,000.

Now THAT is an incentive! No takers so far. What "truth bettor" big mouth will take the challenge first? That kind of payout will buy a lifetime worth of panties!
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Spider - can you point me to Stan's standing offer? I once (actually several times) offered a $40,000 wager that he couldn't demonstrate how to achieve two shot angles from the same perception. This would be proving what Stan referred to as "the mystery that was never supposed to be." As a side note, he never took me up on the wager, which would have bankrolled his book, and has since said on youtube that the new book would NOT explain how that works.

So you're good with the history searches. Where exactly might I find Stan's offer?

TIA.
 
Low500 said:
Them Filipinos and the Asians everywhere got some type of secret weapon in making them balls and they're collectively not about to let us gringo Americans know what it is either.
I don't blame 'em one bit.
They know how to stick together. They're great for the game as players and as gentlemen and ladies...(Earl take note, my man)
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Yeah, it's called playing pool before you can walk and living in a pool hall your entire life. That's the secret. Pool is the national pastime in the PI and it is ubiquitous. It's putting in the table time, HAMB.
 
Dan White said:
Spider - can you point me to Stan's standing offer? I once (actually several times) offered a $40,000 wager that he couldn't demonstrate how to achieve two shot angles from the same perception. This would be proving what Stan referred to as "the mystery that was never supposed to be." As a side note, he never took me up on the wager, which would have bankrolled his book, and has since said on youtube that the new book would NOT explain how that works.

So you're good with the history searches. Where exactly might I find Stan's offer?

TIA.
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I honestly don't know. Nor can I remember how long ago it was. It's just vaguely in my memory bank. At the time, I could have been on a "vacation" (if you know what I mean) and grazed a few threads or posts while out.
 
Low500 said:
Them Filipinos and the Asians everywhere got some type of secret weapon in making them balls and they're collectively not about to let us gringo Americans know what it is either.
I don't blame 'em one bit.
They know how to stick together. They're great for the game as players and as gentlemen and ladies...(Earl take note, my man)
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There is no secret.
 
Patrick Johnson said:
Classy as usual.

pj
chgo
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Who started it, Mr. NO CLASS?

Pat Johnson posted:

That's only one of the problems with this "bet". As usual, it has nothing to do with demonstrating the truth of anything - just the usual dick-swinging "who plays better" challenge about nothing, because that's all they understand. If they were arguing with Einstein about Relativity they'd challenge him to an arm wrestling match.

pj
chgo


Spin it and twist it. Use the distraction technique. Change the subject. Place blame on someone else to get the focus off you.

You're a pro at it. You're also a pro at backpedalling faster than Lance Armstrong could pedal forward.

Are you ready and willing to take the bet with Low500 or Stan? If not, you know what you can do and where you can go. (more places than one)
 
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