Why the new 1 pocket rule of ball made on break, re-rack at Derby City?

markjames said:
Ok but something is tilted. The table the rack the camera my screen or my eyes. And rodney made him rerack once. Something was tilted both times. I think. But that’s why i posted this.
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Racks sometimes get tilted.

Might be so the breaker reduces the chances of the CB scratching. Or the racker just sees the balls wrong and has a visual bias that leads them to rack tilted. It helps to have a spotting line drawn from the spot or the rack outlined.

In any case the opponent always has the right to point out any irregularities and ask for a re-rack.

Lou Figueroa
 
gregcantrall said:
I think the BCAPL eight ball break rule would work more fairly.

I would prefer that the breaker have the option to spot the made ball up and relinquish the table as is.The option would give him a slight reward for making a ball in his pocket.
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Not sure how having to spot the ball is any kind of a reward.

It might end up being bankable or create a dead combo to his opponent's pocket.

Lou Figueroa
 
Patrick Johnson said:
Why not just rule that the inning is over after the break no matter what happens?

pj
chgo
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I dunno.

Maybe because there's already a fix and there's no need to further muddle things up. Also, your solution is somewhat unholy in that it violates a basic tenant of pool -- namely, you make a ball you keep shooting.

Lou Figueroa
 
Bob Jewett said:
Or, "breaker sits down". Seems reasonable to me.
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I don't think so.

There's something about this that I believe just would not sit well with most 1pocket players. And like I said, there's already a solution that has become pretty widely adopted. I don't think its the greatest of ideas to keep messing with the rules.

Lou Figueroa
 
cookie man said:
Hard to be real sure but it does appear to be a line on the table. If it's actually a racking line then it does appear to be a tilted rack. Again really hard to tell.
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The line is for spotting balls. Middle ball on bottom rail should be on that line.
 
Corey's 8-Ball Break

lfigueroa said:
lol, if you advertise that you think you can do that, like CD, and use a blast them open 8ball break playing 1pocket, for money, I have no doubt you will immediately have tons of action available.

Interestingly, not even CD uses that break playing 1pocket.

Lou Figueroa
just sayin'
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It's worth noting that the break shown in the video is on a 7 foot diamond table. For whatever reason, it doesn't seem to work on a 9 footer. Corey used that same break against Justin B when they played in SC.
 
lfigueroa said:
Why would a player give up the table?

Lou Figueroa
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If I make a beautiful break with the balls favorable to me and accidentally pocket a ball, it is not to my advantage to rerack and do it again. The second break could leave a less advantageous lay out.

Either way the breaker is giving up the table. The option to just spot the pocketed ball or rerack and break again is dependent on the rules not allowing a ball made on the break.
 
gregcantrall said:
If I make a beautiful break with the balls favorable to me and accidentally pocket a ball, it is not to my advantage to rerack and do it again. The second break could leave a less advantageous lay out.

Either way the breaker is giving up the table. The option to just spot the pocketed ball or rerack and break again is dependent on the rules not allowing a ball made on the break.
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OK.

But as I've said, we already have a solution that, over the years has seen relatively wide adoption by players. Why muddle things up with another rule change?

Lou Figueroa
 
alstl said:
The line is for spotting balls. Middle ball on bottom rail should be on that line.
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And you can use that line to align the rack when racking also. Where I used to play a lot of one pocket, each table had a rack with a line drawn on the center of the "back" of the rack. You simply line that up with the line on the cloth. Voila, consistently lined up racks...
 
lfigueroa said:
OK.

But as I've said, we already have a solution that, over the years has seen relatively wide adoption by players. Why muddle things up with another rule change?

Lou Figueroa
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Only if it was an improvement. Rule changes come about to improve the game. Some changes are more widely applauded than others. I would wager that all have ruffled feathers.:shrug:
 
Diamond had a notch

8cree said:
And you can use that line to align the rack when racking also. Where I used to play a lot of one pocket, each table had a rack with a line drawn on the center of the "back" of the rack. You simply line that up with the line on the cloth. Voila, consistently lined up racks...
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The wooden Diamond racks I used to play with had a small notch center rear looked like made with a bandsaw. Put that notch on the spotting line for balls and no way for a rack to be twisted if the front is on the dot.

Seems like it is more popular to put gaps between balls than to twist the rack. I think Joe Tucker still has the best info on both cheating the rack and catching cheaters. Unfortunately saying how to catch them is also saying how to cheat.

Hu
 
So then it is also said to the breaker-
In the “breaker sits down” rule-
That you are a cheater.
 
8cree said:
And you can use that line to align the rack when racking also. Where I used to play a lot of one pocket, each table had a rack with a line drawn on the center of the "back" of the rack. You simply line that up with the line on the cloth. Voila, consistently lined up racks...
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Correct and clearly the 8 ball is to the left of the line. Rack was twisted. Rodney was right although the time to say something was probably before the break.

https://youtu.be/WTgopqgEXx4?t=5039
 
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