i agree,this is how these wars start.Icon of Sin said:
Why was my thread deleted?
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I did not read matts original (now deleted) thread, but I saw this one :
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=50597
Dave, sitting here saying "hmmmmmm"
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=50597
Dave, sitting here saying "hmmmmmm"
Rich R. wrote:
> Mr. Wilson has not shown any interest in sharing
> information between the major internet pool forums.
It's funny -- I'm on three different Porsche forums where members (and even the moderators) regularly post links to other forums whenever something informative is posted there.
Perhaps sports car forums are different from billiards forums..?
Flex wrote:
> IMHO, AZ is far and away the best forum, no doubt about it
Oh yea -- I'll second that. In fact, AzB is the only billiards forum I'm a member of.
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> Mr. Wilson has not shown any interest in sharing
> information between the major internet pool forums.
It's funny -- I'm on three different Porsche forums where members (and even the moderators) regularly post links to other forums whenever something informative is posted there.
Perhaps sports car forums are different from billiards forums..?
Flex wrote:
> IMHO, AZ is far and away the best forum, no doubt about it
Oh yea -- I'll second that. In fact, AzB is the only billiards forum I'm a member of.
-- peer
pharaoh68
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Flex said:
That may be your opinion now but wait and see. So many of us long time members like it here on AZ but have grown tired of the changes that we've seen over the years. Thus, many of us look elsewhere. In time, you'll see that a lot of AZ's oldest and most respected members are frequenting these other forums.
Reminds me of when I once played a tournament out in the country on a lonely stretch of highway. Inside they had a sign that read something like this:APA7 said:Seems like the attitude round here is that it's my way or tha highway. U can take it or go somewhere else
Brian
"If you don't like our rules you have two choices: Hwy 52 east or Hwy 52 west."
We played by their rules and my son took 2nd and I took 3rd place behind the winner Doug Young (aka Waco Kid) and still made a nice chunk of change. Maybe if people would just play by the rules here they would get more benefits by staying than leaving also.
Chris
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Peer said:
you probably cant compare the two situations. the difference is on that forum you probably don't see members being told to go to another site because of a conflict that had happend within that site. because of that, it most likely wouldn't lead too a forum "revolt" like state, like on this site, possibly telling people to go to another site because of the friction caused or the actions of the moderators because of it. everyone has to realize we members don't own this site. we use it for it's benefits. if we decide to "test" the limits of those benefits, which by the way, are decided by the owners and moderators of the site, we may have to suffer consequences. it's that simple. if people feel this forum is not giving them what they need, then they need to move on on and find another place to converse, share ideas, product, strategies and knowledge. after all that's what a forum is supposed to be about right?
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DaveK said:
......Because until you posted, I was unaware of it.
Not a new position for me. I've always been clear on this point.
Just ask and someone will be sure to complain about having a link removed.
Matt's post was no different. Just anouncing jimbo was given a soapbox of his own.
Context matters for a lot too.
I've seen the forum, courtesy of the removed link and wasn't surprised in the least. To the contrary, I would have been surprised if Myself and this forum were not the main topic.
NYC cue dude
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In light of the recent events, posting Jimbo's new forum arena, isn't as innocent as your post here intimates, Matt.
I agree with Wilson, why should he allow you to direct his customers to what will most definetely be a RIVAL site, where probably it's main topics arent centered around pool, but rather what is wrong with az billiards, and mr. wilson in particular.
No, i dont think it was "innocent" at all.
Also, someone stated that he expects az's oldest and most repected posters to explore other billiards forums because of the recent changes.
I'd like to say, imo, that there isn't necessarily a corelation between being an oler member here and being respected. I think that is part of the problem around here. Just because someone signed up just a couple of years ago, doesnt mean that you are not subject to the same rules as a newbie. Furthermore, an older "member" date certainly doesnt mean you are any more repsected than someone who signed up yesterday.
rg
I agree with Wilson, why should he allow you to direct his customers to what will most definetely be a RIVAL site, where probably it's main topics arent centered around pool, but rather what is wrong with az billiards, and mr. wilson in particular.
No, i dont think it was "innocent" at all.
Also, someone stated that he expects az's oldest and most repected posters to explore other billiards forums because of the recent changes.
I'd like to say, imo, that there isn't necessarily a corelation between being an oler member here and being respected. I think that is part of the problem around here. Just because someone signed up just a couple of years ago, doesnt mean that you are not subject to the same rules as a newbie. Furthermore, an older "member" date certainly doesnt mean you are any more repsected than someone who signed up yesterday.
rg
I plan on posting in both forums for awhile and don't feel any need to choose one over the other. It's nice to communicate with others I've missed, in some cases for years, because they've been banned here.
I have a lot of friends here on A-Z too. I wish everyone would just relax and enjoy themselves.
Chris
Ps. The cue section, where many of us normally post, is sadly uneventful now.
I have a lot of friends here on A-Z too. I wish everyone would just relax and enjoy themselves.
Chris
Ps. The cue section, where many of us normally post, is sadly uneventful now.
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NYC cue dude said:
I won't post a link, since that is not allowed, but it's easy enough to find. Lots of pool discussions and no mention of Mr. Wilson.
Dave is having to deal with a large base of participants in a highly visible forum - that means a lot of drama-lovers and trolls wandering in and out. Tough job. It also means a lot of very knowledgeable pool enthusiasts who get frustrated with these knob-heads and end up either leaving or getting run off. Don't begrudge them an attempt to find a place where they can talk pool.
NYC cue dude said:
Mr. RG,
Of course, there isn't necessarily a correlation as you stated. Respect is something earned and given, in my opinion. Some of those "old" posters have earned the respect due to the level of participation, insight, experience and knowledge they bring to the forum and share with rest of us by posting on the board.
Somewhere else, you posted stating that less than 1% of the 8000+members openly supported Jimbo. While I don't want to start another Jimbo related topic, please consider who is represented in 1%. They are amongrespected cue makers, people in the industry and prominent posters. I'd like to think their contribution to this board is a part of the reason for 8k members registered on this forum. I'd hate to think that their contribution/support for this forum is missing or reduced by recent events. Just a food for thoughts.
NYC cue dude said:
If you venture over there, you'll find no thread topics concerning AZ banishments or the monitor at AZ. It's of little interest.
What you'll find is a great bunch of folks enjoying the freedom to discuss their pool interests and not spending all their time editing posts and looking over their shoulder. A place where you can speak your mind.
Barry
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