Why would anyone do business with Bebot Bautista Cues?

So should World Class Cue provide me with a $2000+ cue to make up for the one Tommy Stanfill stole from me? He was working with them and on their behalf....

Doesn't seem to me that it was their fault as they never even saw e cue.

tap tap tap.
 
yeah but hondas don't rip off their customers by taking deposits and not delivering a product...

They also don't warp when they arrive from another country.

People pay for reputation, quality, consistency and playability. I've seen a few cues from the Philippines..with horrible construction. Cloudy finish, raised ringwork and uneven points. That was enough for me.

I would rather get a high quality sneaky pete from the U.S. or Mezz rather than try to save a few $$ by purchasing a cue made in the Philippines.

So many great cuemakers in the U.S. it's not even an option anymore to look over seas.


i personally refuse to pay for a name. some of these cue makers prices are outrageous!!! plain jane cue 1000 to 2000 dollars sneaky pete 600 get real... many people buy fancy named cues to show off or for collecting i buy for playabilty and if i can kind find a cue that plays just as good for a fraction of the price then call me an american.. i dont care where they come from!!! some of these guys wouldnt dream of buying a cue from a another country but drive a around in a honda
 
yeah but hondas don't rip off their customers by taking deposits and not delivering a product...

They also don't warp when they arrive from another country.

People pay for reputation, quality, consistency and playability. I've seen a few cues from the Philippines..with horrible construction. Cloudy finish, raised ringwork and uneven points. That was enough for me.

I would rather get a high quality sneaky pete from the U.S. or Mezz rather than try to save a few $$ by purchasing a cue made in the Philippines.

So many great cuemakers in the U.S. it's not even an option anymore to look over seas.

I have also seen a few cues from Philippines without those problems.
There are US cues being sold on AZ right now with warped shafts and butts.
Another thread was talking about Mezz cues warping.
I recently saw a cue done by a US cuemaker who sells his stuff on AZ and this new cue will need to be refinished.
I bought a cue here from a US craftsman that I had to send back because the finish was worse than any of my Filipino cues.
Imagine that……….. :)
 
how about making one, just one cue and sending it out to an az member to show you are making progress instead of keeping asking for time with no results.

definitely will be doing that sir,.. i am making a promise simply because, thats all i can do for now until we start making progress of there cues, wip pics of progresses will be posted for each of them,.. building/preparing cues isnt easy, it takes time,..
 
definitely will be doing that sir,.. i am making a promise simply because, thats all i can do for now until we start making progress of there cues, wip pics of progresses will be posted for each of them,.. building/preparing cues isnt easy, it takes time,..

Hey Merv--

Most top cue makers in the US can put out a quality cue within 90 days. How long do you expect it to take to make good on everyone's order?
 
Hey Merv--

Most top cue makers in the US can put out a quality cue within 90 days. How long do you expect it to take to make good on everyone's order?

maybe before end of next month, one or two people involve will be recieving a cue from their respective mailing addresses sir,.. :smile:
 
maybe before end of next month, one or two people involve will be recieving a cue from their respective mailing addresses sir,.. :smile:

Sounds like great timing to post the "Doing the best I can for those ripped off by the_general Les Lacson thread."

You could post up AZ names and rough date.

like

AZB#1 - December (always give yourself a bit of room on estimated dates)
AZ#2 - January

. . .and so on.

Then pics of anything partially or fully assembled which you want to share, plus of course pics of cues ready to ship.
 
You know, honestly this has been going on for much too long now.
Pop in once in a while with reassurances (maybe blind promises) to buy themselves a bit more time. Eventually, enuff time will pass that the buyers will get tired of being stressed out over this and forget about it.

Les can't refund because his daughter is enrolled in a private school.
These 2 clowns are making their problems, your problems.

Its not right. Mervin, your father and yourself owe these people more than a couple of posts once in a while, stroking their fur and hoping that will buy you some more time.

Well guess what? These people have been much too patient for too long.
Its time to step up to the plate and start showing some pictures of cues and the estimated time of finish date.

This thread will not disappear and the longer it goes on, the more people that will shy away from sending you money.

Why you are still allowed to sell your cues in the Sale section is beyond me. All I can tell you is the longer you allow this to continue without making it right, the less chances you are going to have at making a decent living from the advertising you get on AZ.
 
i dont want it anymore!!!!

i ordered a bebot cue long long time ago from les and have paid in full.
after numerous of promises i still havent seen any sign that my cue is being built.

at this point, i dont want that cue anymore. i have considered given money to somebody who need it.

les, please keep your promises and my money for yourself,
marvin, please dont bother to make me the cue.

best regards

Joko

ps: i bought divney cue and very satisfied with it.
 
i ordered a bebot cue long long time ago from les and have paid in full.
after numerous of promises i still havent seen any sign that my cue is being built.

at this point, i dont want that cue anymore. i have considered given money to somebody who need it.

les, please keep your promises and my money for yourself,
marvin, please dont bother to make me the cue.

best regards

Joko

ps: i bought divney cue and very satisfied with it.


This is sad! Who is this guy Les Lacson? And where does he live? Is he in the PI? I bought a Bautista cue from a friend the last time I was there. It's a beauty, the best cue I've found so far over there.
 
This is sad! Who is this guy Les Lacson? And where does he live? Is he in the PI? I bought a Bautista cue from a friend the last time I was there. It's a beauty, the best cue I've found so far over there.

sad indeed, we all still wait to get something. Les took the orders for bebot before they stoped working with each other. He lives in manila too. I sure believe its the best cue you found over there jay, thats why we all odered one too.....
 
This is sad! Who is this guy Les Lacson? And where does he live? Is he in the PI? I bought a Bautista cue from a friend the last time I was there. It's a beauty, the best cue I've found so far over there.

you are right sir. this is really sad.
my plan was to bought a bebot cue and ask bebot(through les) to write down my daughter's name on the cue. it was for her first birthday. and the cue was never delivered.

now my daughter is almost two years old. :happydance:
 
I just sent Les a private message on Facebook offering to help out by carrying cues back to the states at my expense and shipping them to the customers. I'm not optimistic but who knows??? I will be there from Nov. 17-30.

Does anyone have contact numbers for Les or Bautista?
 
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I just sent Les a private message on Facebook offering to help out by carrying cues back to the states at my expense and shipping them to the customers. I'm not optimistic but who knows??? I will be there from Nov. 17-30.

Does anyone have contact numbers for Les or Ray Bautista?

Hey Jay

Why do you need their contacts? Do you need something from them?
 
I bought a Bautista cue from a friend the last time I was there. It's a beauty, the best cue I've found so far over there.

Gladbyou like it Jay, we should pool again, BTW, its a TONY Bautista cue you have over here, :):):):smile::smile::smile:
 
Gladbyou like it Jay, we should pool again, BTW, its a TONY Bautista cue you have over here, :):):):smile::smile::smile:

Is this the cue maker in question? I'm just trying to help these guys get their cues that they ordered and paid for. Can you help me accomplish that Joyren? Do you know Les?
 
I knew this guy, well let me talk to him, the last i heard he ask a different cue maker to make cues, but heard it didnt pass some customers

Well the cue maker Tony Bautista is not in question here Jay
 
write down my daughter's name on the cue. it was for her first birthday. and the cue was never delivered.

now my daughter is almost two years old.

Very sad...I feel for you sir. My son is 3 & I recently made him a rather sporty little cue. I'll spread a little good Karma your way....pm sent.:smile:
 
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