Why you collect cues?
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I agree and do the same thing myself. I just cut a very old veneered butterfly and will try and post pics later if I ever get it finished
.The cue in your top pic looks like BR to me.
Personal disorder
I definitely don't collect for investment purposes. It is extremely hard to build a collection thinking that every piece will be worth more than you paid for it. If you factor in other simple investments you would be a hard pressed to think that collecting cues/knives/bourbon/wine/cars etc would work out.
Which leads me to believe I along with others have a disorder for liking fine things and wanting them to the point we acquire more than one (do you really need 3 Ferrari's as an example).
Now with all that said, I think if you are enjoying what you are buying and doing your homework you will end up with a few pieces within your general collection that will compensate for all your irrational purchases... At least that is what I tell myself after I buy another cue.
I definitely don't collect for investment purposes. It is extremely hard to build a collection thinking that every piece will be worth more than you paid for it. If you factor in other simple investments you would be a hard pressed to think that collecting cues/knives/bourbon/wine/cars etc would work out.
Which leads me to believe I along with others have a disorder for liking fine things and wanting them to the point we acquire more than one (do you really need 3 Ferrari's as an example).
Now with all that said, I think if you are enjoying what you are buying and doing your homework you will end up with a few pieces within your general collection that will compensate for all your irrational purchases... At least that is what I tell myself after I buy another cue.
I collect pool cue because it is part of whom I am..........my youth, my past, my present and my future.
I want something that is unique and original, something I had a say in designing and something that
no on else owns.......it is mine.....one of a kind.......and these cues will pass along to my kids (four).
A lot of my cues are signed & dated......I ask the cue-maker to use dates coincidental with the completion
date but the dates are ones I supply if it coincides with my kids birthday, etc. It adds a little more sentimentality
and uniqueness...... I try to brand my cues using my initials on the cue butt.
When I am dead, these cues will survive me. When my children pass along, these cues should survive
them........grandchildren I have never seen and are yet to be born will hold these same cues and ask
about these cues. I have a 1946 Winchester 94.....how many people fired that rifle? How many deer
taken? What;s the history behind that rifle? 70 years and it works perfectly........my cues will hopefully
become a reminder about me.......I lived and died and these were my pool cues.......it matters to me.
Matt B.
I want something that is unique and original, something I had a say in designing and something that
no on else owns.......it is mine.....one of a kind.......and these cues will pass along to my kids (four).
A lot of my cues are signed & dated......I ask the cue-maker to use dates coincidental with the completion
date but the dates are ones I supply if it coincides with my kids birthday, etc. It adds a little more sentimentality
and uniqueness...... I try to brand my cues using my initials on the cue butt.
When I am dead, these cues will survive me. When my children pass along, these cues should survive
them........grandchildren I have never seen and are yet to be born will hold these same cues and ask
about these cues. I have a 1946 Winchester 94.....how many people fired that rifle? How many deer
taken? What;s the history behind that rifle? 70 years and it works perfectly........my cues will hopefully
become a reminder about me.......I lived and died and these were my pool cues.......it matters to me.
Matt B.
asiasdad
Banned
I have not yet run my course. However in what I learned I am now working towards
my lifetime keeper collection of 12 cues by 12 different makers. I have already
named this developing collection my dirty dozen.
I have met some great people doing this over the years, and I believe many would
agree the hunt is as exciting as the acquisition.
This too....
and a hell of a lot cheaper than cocaine, unless you're making it
in the jungle
I agree and do the same thing myself. I just cut a very old veneered butterfly and will try and post pics later if I ever get it finished
The cue in your top pic looks like BR to me.
Yeah that BRW is fantastic.
Picked up this for a great price a few weeks back. Restoring it now. Gonna be a knockout.
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" I am now working towards my lifetime keeper collection of 12 cues by 12 different makers."
So Asiasdad.....whom are the cue-makers in your dirty dozen? How many have you scored yet?
So Asiasdad.....whom are the cue-makers in your dirty dozen? How many have you scored yet?
I have a friend and we shared our passion in cues. we are from Vietnam and most cues are out of reach. but we both buy cues for playability, to try out cues, and when we see that we have too many for our playing needs, we realize that we all love the cues too much to sell.
another reason is that if we sell to ppl here in Vietnam, we want to make sure the buyer wont **** the cue up by not taking good care, or sanding the shafts down etc. we had one invaluable lesson when sold a cue (that my friend loved) to a pro player that we both respect, but then with the pressure of winning and money, he could not wait to adapt to the cue but chose to altered some specs (change wrap, sand shaft down). the cue was no longer how it once was. so we decided not to sell cues to those who wont take good care.
now ppl are calling us cue hoarders
another reason is that if we sell to ppl here in Vietnam, we want to make sure the buyer wont **** the cue up by not taking good care, or sanding the shafts down etc. we had one invaluable lesson when sold a cue (that my friend loved) to a pro player that we both respect, but then with the pressure of winning and money, he could not wait to adapt to the cue but chose to altered some specs (change wrap, sand shaft down). the cue was no longer how it once was. so we decided not to sell cues to those who wont take good care.
now ppl are calling us cue hoarders
Just for fun. At one time 2 cues were too many. Cues are artistic. I have them on a wall rack. They quickly become a collection. I rarely use them as I like to play with the same cue for consistence. One or two are un-chalked. I'm not addicted or obsessed. I can stop buying at any time.....as long I do not see any really nice bumper-less sneakies. Especially in PurpleHeart with BEM.
I love my Doc Frye cue..... It's my frog cue...it's staying around till I croak......
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Why? Hard question for me. Complicated.
I am not really a collector I think, I am a gatherer of knowledge and history. I love true custom cues but I only have a couple or three. Then I have a number of old production cues, 1970's and older. Everything from Adam, to Rich, to Sampaio, Brunswick, and Katz...all the way up to an ivory joint 100 year old Brunswick. Then there are the dirty little secrets...the Ugly Betty cues...the Cobras and Mizeraks. LOL! Yeah. And finally I have a number that are "rescue" cues. They need work. They wait. They need a refinish or a joint pin or a shaft or a wrap or in some cases probably a funeral fire.
I really want old cues from big name makers and truly rare or valuable cues. I dream of it. I have had the money and failed to ever pull the trigger. I don't know why I am afraid to. Instead I bought a lot of "junk".
I also want to have a cue made. I have a double butterfly I want converted. Even talked to a HOF cue maker. Have not pulled the trigger. I also want to have a four point made "from scratch" in an old school style. But again, have not pulled the trigger. There is a fear in me of pulling the trigger and I don't know why.
I don't know why I gather. Just fun? No, it's more than that.
I am a history buff, information junkie, obsessive student of everything, and I have a very strange mind. I have synesthesia so I think of and remember things differently than most folks. The best way to describe it is that I see things in colorful abstract pictures and timelines but in a strange 3D way where I can zoom in and out on everything and everything is categorized. For some reason old cues fit into this well and are really fun to play with in my mind. I can remember things in the smallest detail and connect things together in spooky ways that others will not see, so I can group cues together in my mind by very minor features and details, which makes me pretty decent at identifying obscure cues, even cheap Taiwan ones because they are etched in my mind just as much as any others. I don't do it on purpose, it's the way my mind works.
I guess I only really want or need one or two that are great players. The rest are conversation pieces, historical pieces, novelty pieces, matters of intellectual stimulation. My players are my block letter JOSS and my 1981 Huebler. Damn hard to beat either one of those with more money or technology actually. I even traded a beautiful Predator for an old 70's McDermott (perfect condition) and It's George case. Why? The Predator was not interesting and there was no magic in it, functionally it couldn't do anything better than my JOSS just different. I am sure the other party in that trade thinks he got the better deal, but I know otherwise. There is magic in the McDermott and it has an original brown McDermott bumper.
So, why gather cues? For me personally, I think it's a sign of a personality defect. But I do love cues.
I estimate I have about 85 cues.
And then there are the cases.....:grin:
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I am not really a collector I think, I am a gatherer of knowledge and history. I love true custom cues but I only have a couple or three. Then I have a number of old production cues, 1970's and older. Everything from Adam, to Rich, to Sampaio, Brunswick, and Katz...all the way up to an ivory joint 100 year old Brunswick. Then there are the dirty little secrets...the Ugly Betty cues...the Cobras and Mizeraks. LOL! Yeah. And finally I have a number that are "rescue" cues. They need work. They wait. They need a refinish or a joint pin or a shaft or a wrap or in some cases probably a funeral fire.
I really want old cues from big name makers and truly rare or valuable cues. I dream of it. I have had the money and failed to ever pull the trigger. I don't know why I am afraid to. Instead I bought a lot of "junk".
I also want to have a cue made. I have a double butterfly I want converted. Even talked to a HOF cue maker. Have not pulled the trigger. I also want to have a four point made "from scratch" in an old school style. But again, have not pulled the trigger. There is a fear in me of pulling the trigger and I don't know why.
I don't know why I gather. Just fun? No, it's more than that.
I am a history buff, information junkie, obsessive student of everything, and I have a very strange mind. I have synesthesia so I think of and remember things differently than most folks. The best way to describe it is that I see things in colorful abstract pictures and timelines but in a strange 3D way where I can zoom in and out on everything and everything is categorized. For some reason old cues fit into this well and are really fun to play with in my mind. I can remember things in the smallest detail and connect things together in spooky ways that others will not see, so I can group cues together in my mind by very minor features and details, which makes me pretty decent at identifying obscure cues, even cheap Taiwan ones because they are etched in my mind just as much as any others. I don't do it on purpose, it's the way my mind works.
I guess I only really want or need one or two that are great players. The rest are conversation pieces, historical pieces, novelty pieces, matters of intellectual stimulation. My players are my block letter JOSS and my 1981 Huebler. Damn hard to beat either one of those with more money or technology actually. I even traded a beautiful Predator for an old 70's McDermott (perfect condition) and It's George case. Why? The Predator was not interesting and there was no magic in it, functionally it couldn't do anything better than my JOSS just different. I am sure the other party in that trade thinks he got the better deal, but I know otherwise. There is magic in the McDermott and it has an original brown McDermott bumper.
So, why gather cues? For me personally, I think it's a sign of a personality defect. But I do love cues.
I estimate I have about 85 cues.
And then there are the cases.....:grin:
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Cues
Playing Pool in the 60's I was always attracted to 2-piece cues and bought and sold several times not to make money but for the thrill of having a new cue.
In my mid 40's I got back into Pool and bought a new 6 point Boar from Tony. I knew nothing about cue collecting or cues for that matter but I knew this cue was special. The more I knew Tony the more I liked him and Black Boars. I found myself at Tournaments spending more time in the hallways with the cue vendors then watching the tournaments. I met many many people who felt the same way and soon I had friends from all over the country that I would see several times a year at different events like the SBE , Derby City and the US Open.
When I see a cue or own a cue it always reminds me of a cue maker or current or past friend. Cues are and always will be a big part of my life.
Playing Pool in the 60's I was always attracted to 2-piece cues and bought and sold several times not to make money but for the thrill of having a new cue.
In my mid 40's I got back into Pool and bought a new 6 point Boar from Tony. I knew nothing about cue collecting or cues for that matter but I knew this cue was special. The more I knew Tony the more I liked him and Black Boars. I found myself at Tournaments spending more time in the hallways with the cue vendors then watching the tournaments. I met many many people who felt the same way and soon I had friends from all over the country that I would see several times a year at different events like the SBE , Derby City and the US Open.
When I see a cue or own a cue it always reminds me of a cue maker or current or past friend. Cues are and always will be a big part of my life.
Collecting cues...
As others have mentioned, I like the art aspect, a "Craftsman's touch" if you will.
I also appreciate the historical aspects of pool cues. (They are much like cars or guitars) in the sense that the older cues are usually the "Classics" that allow people to remissness about a time when the world was a simpler machine. Computers didn't build as much back then, hands did. And when those hands created something with the absolute best of their ability, its something to be celebrated.
I can spend all day in a room full of cues & never hit a single ball... BUT that's the beauty of this type of art, its also functional, and allows us to enjoy a "FEEL" to it!
I'm hooked 4 life...
As others have mentioned, I like the art aspect, a "Craftsman's touch" if you will.
I also appreciate the historical aspects of pool cues. (They are much like cars or guitars) in the sense that the older cues are usually the "Classics" that allow people to remissness about a time when the world was a simpler machine. Computers didn't build as much back then, hands did. And when those hands created something with the absolute best of their ability, its something to be celebrated.
I can spend all day in a room full of cues & never hit a single ball... BUT that's the beauty of this type of art, its also functional, and allows us to enjoy a "FEEL" to it!
I'm hooked 4 life...
I dont they collect me
I don't collect cues they seem to collect me and then Im stuck with them. I don't enjoy trading or selling things that generally go down in value.
I don't collect cues they seem to collect me and then Im stuck with them. I don't enjoy trading or selling things that generally go down in value.