Will a real cue maker step forward?

JoeyInCali said:
Dear gawd.
Those are resin impregnated wood cues.:rolleyes: :eek:
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They look like someone loved their joint protectors and made a cue to match. :rolleyes: :D

Just call Josey and order an 18oz sp with brass Radial and "Timeless" timber shaft. The shaft wood is petrified under water so it has that ULTRA dense, heavy feeling you are looking for...just order it purpleheart and no weight bolt...you'll be all set.;)
 
Cornerman said:
Can you give us more information on Sceptre Cues? You and Laura have mentioned them several times before, and I can find nothing on them.

Can the guy who made Sceptre Cues make your cue for you?

Fred
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His name is Russ Willobie (spelling last name ?), and he sold the business, unfortunately for me since I used to be the east coast dealer. He used to live in California.

I am going to the US Open Fred on Thurs, Friday, Sat, and Sunday. If you are going to be there, I will let you try my cue and you can kick my ass at eight ball :D .

Thanks for the advice on the Layanti being front weighted. It was 20.5" front weighted, and I am finding out that 19" is considered front weighted, correct?

WW
 
whitewolf said:
Thanks for the advice on the Layanti being front weighted. It was 20.5" front weighted, and I am finding out that 19" is considered front weighted, correct?

WW
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I consider 19" front weighted, but others might not. Personally, I can't play with a cue for too long if it's balanced 19" or greater. My forearm starts to hurt. I suppose my mechanics have simply been set over the years to the 18-18.5" balance pt. that I'm used to.

Fred
 
Cornerman said:
I consider 19" front weighted, but others might not. Personally, I can't play with a cue for too long if it's balanced 19" or greater. My forearm starts to hurt. I suppose my mechanics have simply been set over the years to the 18-18.5" balance pt. that I'm used to.

Fred
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As it should.
 
buget?

whitewolf said:
Actually, my wife discussed this with Tim Scruggs, lighter woods in the rear of the cue, but the results couldn't be guaranteed.

Thanks for your responses everyone - I have to read the rest of them now.
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you have not answered my ? yet. what is your buget and what style cue are you looking for? floating point or traditional point.
 
Speaking of mearheads

whitewolf said:
As far as disrespecting one of the greatest cue makers ever, let me just say that I first of all called Rick (the son) on the phone to verify that is could be done. I then emailed him my specs, just so that he could verify. Then I drove down there and showed him my cues with the 21.3" balance points. He even measured them. I, still being somewhat doubtful, asked how he would do this. He showed me the bolt that holds the two butt pieces together and said that he would just move it closer to the joint. I even told him not to bother making the cue if he couldn't come anywhere close to my specifications. We shook hands.

When I got the cue, it was only 19" balanced forward. I sent the cue back and lost my deposit, with no offer to do it right. I have nothing against Rick as I think he is a nice guy. Maybe I should have dealt with his father. And just maybe this is why Phillipi cues are loosing value.

Disrespect??!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am simply saying that he really botched up the job and didn't offer me a chance to fix the problem. Took my money and ran.

I guess all you wanted to do was to popoff today like a REAL MEATHEAD. At least you might try being a little more respectful yourself.
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I knew you were a troll from the first instant.

FWIW, some instruction is reading is in order for you
You said Timmy Scruggs COULDN'T do it
not only is Timmy one of the best cuemakers to ever live, he is as
nice a guy as you will ever find

Back when we were all trying to play nice, the msg 'between the lines'
was that with your snotty, spoiled brat attitude, we wouldn't
touch a project for you with a 10 foot pole

now you come off with the info you have 2 cues already
even you should understand, a well made cue will last a lifetime and
more if you take proper care of it

all you ever wanted to do was talk about your cues

ther is a lesson here you would do well to learn

Dale<who knows a troll when he sees one>
 
pdcue said:
I knew you were a troll from the first instant.

FWIW, some instruction is reading is in order for you
You said Timmy Scruggs COULDN'T do it
not only is Timmy one of the best cuemakers to ever live, he is as
nice a guy as you will ever find

Back when we were all trying to play nice, the msg 'between the lines'
was that with your snotty, spoiled brat attitude, we wouldn't
touch a project for you with a 10 foot pole

now you come off with the info you have 2 cues already
even you should understand, a well made cue will last a lifetime and
more if you take proper care of it

all you ever wanted to do was talk about your cues

ther is a lesson here you would do well to learn

Dale<who knows a troll when he sees one>
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Agree with Dale here;Tim has the ability and know-how to build ANYTHING he chooses and there isnt a nicer guy uot there.Mike Sellers
 
Real cuemaker????

WW,I dont know you from a turnip and i am sure you probably are a fine player,HOWEVER to ask for a REAL CUEMAKER to step forward and then immediately lump Tim Scruggs in a group of subpar cuemakers tells me you either put very little forethought into your post or are completely uninformed.I think you would find very little disagreement anywhere in the pool world that Tim is one of the very top and most capable cuemakers alive and also one of the nicest guys you could want to have any dealings of any sort with.Mike Sellers
 
whitewolf said:
His name is Russ Willobie (spelling last name ?), and he sold the business, unfortunately for me since I used to be the east coast dealer. He used to live in California.

I am going to the US Open Fred on Thurs, Friday, Sat, and Sunday. If you are going to be there, I will let you try my cue and you can kick my ass at eight ball :D .

Thanks for the advice on the Layanti being front weighted. It was 20.5" front weighted, and I am finding out that 19" is considered front weighted, correct?

WW
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Hi,

Although I personally would find anything more than 19" from the butt a bit too forward, but I have to say everyone is different and every cue is built differently. So, I need to try the cue in order to know if it works for me. There are general parameters one uses to judge the "hit" of a cue; however, there are always exceptions.

I tried a breaking cues made with dymond woods, the butt was build in a different shape and was very slim. I personally was not crazy about that but I would not call that bad. The idea is original and the design is bold. Obviously, someone out there loves the hit.

I would love to try your cue if you are going to be in the US Open. I like forward balance, and I have never felt good with any cue with a shaft under 3.8 oz. Having said that, a cue is an assembly of many parts, so it is impossible to generalize a cue based on only one aspect.

Also, there are many different styles of play,and some people have a different way of applying their muscle while they stroke the ball. I believe it is impossible to dismiss a balance point before actually seeing the player plays and trying the cue that he likes.

Richard
 
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From info gathered from a number of sources I have this to recommend. What WhiteWolf should try is a 57", 18 oz. and 18in balance point with a quick release 12" butt extension and a shooting glove.
 
bandido said:
From info gathered from a number of sources I have this to recommend. What WhiteWolf should try is a 57", 18 oz. and 18in balance point with a quick release 12" butt extension and a shooting glove.
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That may or may not bring closure to his quest for balance (with his cue), but perhaps first he should try exercising some manners! This forum is "Ask The Cuemaker", not belittle him!!! Yeah, I got suckered in right at first as well, but I guarantee it won't happen again with him.

In a post not long ago, the question was asked why more cuemakers didn't post here. After reading this thread, does anyone still wonder why?
 
I hear you. I think she was trying too hard to catch our attention and sort of challenge the board.

From what I gather, her dilemma is her height. Yes HER. She wanted a long cue to be able to reach shots but when shooting at normal stance the butt weight that extends rear of her stroking arm pulls the front end of her stick UP. That is the reason for wanting a very front weighted cue and that too is the reason for my recommendation.
 
You Lost All Credibility Here WW!

Scruggs can't do it, Phillipi failed miserably on my special request. Ted Harris didn't respond to my email. Blackheart doesn't do this, nor does anyone else as I have hinted on the forums a few times. Is there a reputable cue maker who can do this?

You have just managed to slam two of the most respected cuemakers out there and two of the better new cuemakers (under 20 years) out there. Tim is one of the best and Ricky is the nicest cuemaker on the planet. They both do remarkable work. You say that you know both of them, I say you don't! If you really did, you wouldn't talk about them in a public forum like this. You need to go find a newbie who doesn't know any better or else go buy the metal tape!:rolleyes:
Purdman:cool:
 
bandido said:
I hear you. I think she was trying too hard to catch our attention and sort of challenge the board.

From what I gather, her dilemma is her height. Yes HER. She wanted a long cue to be able to reach shots but when shooting at normal stance the butt weight that extends rear of her stroking arm pulls the front end of her stick UP. That is the reason for wanting a very front weighted cue and that too is the reason for my recommendation.
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Her, Him, doesn't matter! Manners are manners! Taking a swipe at tradesmen like that is not acceptable from either gender. And personally, some of what was said in following posts I simply do not believe!

Many will remember, it wasn't that long ago that cuemakers would not share any information. Of course now we have the internet. What a blessing in so many ways, yet, what a pain in the tail in others. In this forum alone there are many makers that are willing to share info, especially to persons wanting into the business. Then along comes threads such as this and taints some of our feelings about sharing that info. If it sounds like I'm taking all this to heart, that's because I am!!! This is my trade, this is what I love doing, this is why I get out of bed and am anxious to go to work every morning!

I just don't think it's right to publicly beat on tradesmen that do their job and do it well.
 
TellsItLikeItIs said:
Her, Him, doesn't matter! Manners are manners! Taking a swipe at tradesmen like that is not acceptable from either gender. And personally, some of what was said in following posts I simply do not believe!

Many will remember, it wasn't that long ago that cuemakers would not share any information. Of course now we have the internet. What a blessing in so many ways, yet, what a pain in the tail in others. In this forum alone there are many makers that are willing to share info, especially to persons wanting into the business. Then along comes threads such as this and taints some of our feelings about sharing that info. If it sounds like I'm taking all this to heart, that's because I am!!! This is my trade, this is what I love doing, this is why I get out of bed and am anxious to go to work every morning!

I just don't think it's right to publicly beat on tradesmen that do their job and do it well.
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TellITLikeItIs, please consider the source in this case. One malcontent shouldn't affect all the positive responces you tradesman get. I for one am greatful for all the knowledge you guys give out. I do not have a desire to become a cuemaker but enjoy learning as much as possible about it. I am just a little repairman in your world. Thanks for sharing all the great info.
Purdman:cool:
 
I'm just a little confused about this - usually I'd got to X cuemaker because of the way that cuemaker builds cues. The balance, the construction, consistency, etc. are all part of that cuemakers reputation as well as what makes their cues desirable.

So why would I go to Tim Scruggs and have he do something so different than his norm? Doesn't make any sense.
 
Purdman said:
TellITLikeItIs, please consider the source in this case. One malcontent shouldn't affect all the positive responces you tradesman get. I for one am greatful for all the knowledge you guys give out. I do not have a desire to become a cuemaker but enjoy learning as much as possible about it. I am just a little repairman in your world. Thanks for sharing all the great info.
Purdman:cool:
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I am considering that Don, and it won't prevent me from helping someone if I can. Admittedly, I don't share as much as I probably could, or as much as some other makers do. But, I don't plan on taking what bit of knowledge I have to the grave with me either.

ps: we were all "little repairmen" at one time ;)
 
BrooklynJay said:
I'm just a little confused about this - usually I'd got to X cuemaker because of the way that cuemaker builds cues. The balance, the construction, consistency, etc. are all part of that cuemakers reputation as well as what makes their cues desirable.

So why would I go to Tim Scruggs and have he do something so different than his norm? Doesn't make any sense.
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No, it doesn't make sense to me either. As you point out, each maker builds his reputation on building a certain way (or by using certain techniques). If I wanted to replicate a certain characteristic of a cue (such as an odd balance point like this) I would go back to Septer or whatever the name was. Actually I've never heard of them.

Also note if you will, originally the poster said Tim can't do it, then later says Tim stated there would be no guarantee of it. Maybe we should call Paul Harvey "for the rest of the story"!!!
 
Whitewolf, I've never played with a cue with that much forward balance. I'm curious to know how you would describe how it plays, and exactly what is it about a cue with that balance point that you like?
 
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