I think we need to pressure Matchroom to get Bob and Dr Dave to do an intensive training session for these refs. So unfair to the players to have blatant mistakes like this effect them in a major tournament.
WNT Hanoi Open 2025, Vietnam, Oct 7-12
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I think we need to pressure Matchroom to get Bob and Dr Dave to do an intensive training session for these refs. So unfair to the players to have blatant mistakes like this effect them in a major tournament.
There was a typhoon in Vietnam on Tuesday! Many locals are in damage control mode. I saw some of the pictures on TV news and it looked pretty scary.
My heart goes out to all the Vietnamese who were victimized by the typhoon.
By ancestry, but was born and raised in HK and plays form them.
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Black tiger goes down. One Pinoy left, Harry vergara. I haven't watched his matches, but I've seen his name around.
me neither, this year. he's probably most known for this finish against svb:
but imo moritz must like his chances
The tables are wet. It’s a horror story every shot
As soon as I saw your post mentioning a horrible ref call, I immediately knew Marcel was involved, because he makes a lot of horrible calls. In fact, it seems that the vast majority of the truly horrible calls on the most obvious situations come from Marcel, and Marcel alone. Watched the video and sure enough, Marcel was the one to make the final ruling that this was a legal hit.
102K views · 876 reactions | Well, well, well.... correct call or not...? 👀 Drama late in the quarter-final between Robbie Capito and Max Lechner, as the hit on the 4-ball was deemed legal... #WNT | #HanoiOpenPool 🇻🇳 | Matchroom Pool
Well, well, well.... correct call or not...? 👀 Drama late in the quarter-final between Robbie Capito and Max Lechner, as the hit on the 4-ball was deemed legal... #WNT | #HanoiOpenPool 🇻🇳.www.facebook.com
How can the ref(s) make this terrible call? Referee Pool Physics 101. There is no way the CB would deviate to the left like that if it hit the 4-ball first and the 9-ball second. Lechner got robbed.
You are right that this is pool physics 101, but Marcel isn't even at the 101 level. The 101 level isn't even in distant sight for him either. The dude literally, not figuratively, but literally, does not even have the pool knowledge or understanding of pool ball reactions of the average APA 3/Fargo 350 level player.
Marcel seems like he is probably a nice, good guy. He seems to have the perfect demeanor for reffing, holds himself well, and gives an air of perfect professionalism. Unfortunately he is also completely and utterly clueless and incompetent when it comes to making calls. Not ok with some need for improvement, but literally completely and grossly incompetent.
As much as he has been around pool, if he still can't immediately spot and understand how something as basic and blatantly obvious as this is a foul, I'm starting to think this likely is not even a training issue, but an intelligence issue, and he may not even be trainable to be competent. Whatever the cause, he needs to go, not to be brought back until he gains competency, if that is even possible for him.
It would be Moritz' first WNT major if he wins. The PLP was a WNT invitational and the Peri was a WNT rankings event, but neither was a WNT major. Of course, events like the Peri and the International 9-ball offer the kind of fields and prize money found at the WNT majors, so they are practically majors, but they are not Matchroom produced events and are therefore not majors. Moritz is having one hell of a year.
Three of the four players tomorrow seek their first WNT major. Only Capito has a WNT major (2024 UK Open).
Who produced an event has about as much to do with whether something is a major or not as what color of shoelaces a player is wearing has to do with how great of a player they are. What makes for a major are things like current and historic field strength, current and historic prize fund, length of history of the event, and the like. Who produces an event is immaterial.
The Peri is not part of the WNT tour and neither is the International, but each, through Matchroom affiliation, offers plenty of money and Matchroom ranking points, making them important. If you want to call such events majors, I'm OK with it, but they are not WNT majors.
As you know, Emily is very stringent when it comes to whether the top players will play in all the WNT majors, and missing the WNT majors, as we have seen, has consequences. Emily has never insisted that the top WNT roster players participate in the other WNT ranking events like the Peri or the International. That's always optional and the players pick and choose when it comes to those ranking events.
FYI, the 2025 Matchroom majors making up the WNT Tour are UK Open, European Open, US Open 9ball, World 9ball, Florida Open, Hanoi Open, and Philippines Open. Miss those and you'll rub Matchroom the wrong way and it may disqualify you from WNT Invitationals (like PLP, Mosconi Cup or Reyes Cup). Miss anything else and Matchroom does not care.
