World 14.1 Championship Group Draws!

cueball1950

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Craig.... i will be there for a couple of days near the end. if you are going to still be there i will look you up and maybe buy you a beer........mike
 

mjantti

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Would've be mighty interesting to have Strickland, Grady and Rempe and especially Taiwanese stars Wu, Chao and Yang in that list.

Go Craig !! Expecting centuries already from you... ;)
 

bruin70

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Williebetmore said:
TheVeryLowNumberIndeed,
Thanks for the post, and good luck. How many from each group will advance??

We are DEFINITELY seeing a changing of the guard in 14.1; made more abrupt by the 6 years since the last major tournament.

I'm NOT criticizing, just observing; names absent (when was the last major 14.1 without these guys?):

Dallas West
Grady Mathews
Dick Lane
Jim Rempe
Steve Mizerak
Jim Fusco
Larry Liscotti
Nick Vlahos
JR Gay

Also I see LOTS of names I've not heard before, this is a great chance for some new names to step forth. Many thanks to Randy Goldwater for getting this thing going; I had no idea he would play in it - good luck Randy.

I would love to see the women do well (Jasmin O., Megan M., J. Lee), I can't wait to see the results.


didn't jeanette pounce on fusco and west in the last 14.1 held in nyc?
and yes,,,lane should be there
 

TheOne

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Cheers guys, sure it will be great. Would have liked to see Strickland play too. Things change though and I'm sure more than 1 or 2 "unknowns" produce a few shocks, but there's still more than enough great names to ensure asuper strong last 32.
 

BlackDragon

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Think its a breakthrough for you, Mr Riley. Hope it goes your way. Enjoy but don't enjoy too much...
 

sjm

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bruin70 said:
didn't jeanette pounce on fusco and west in the last 14.1 held in nyc?
and yes,,,lane should be there

That would be the 1999 National Straight Pool Championships, which was not the last major straight pool event in NYC.

Jeanette, beat John Ervolino, Jim Fusco, and Dallas West and she finished 9th.
 

Gerry

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I'm picking "Florida" Bob Maidhof to win it all. He is an absolute killer, and a real nice guy. I had the pleasure of watching while he hit me with a 124 at a 14.1 event a few years back!:D

Gerry
 

Williebetmore

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Salamander said:
I agree. In fact, it's not just the woman, there are several guys in each of the brackets that will provide "byes" to the better players. For those of you who "lucked" your way in....have a great time....definately a once in a lifetime opportunity.

Regards,

Doug

Mander,
I wonder if you and gulfportdoc have ever seen Jeanette Lee play straight pool? This is NOT 9-ball with power breaking determining the winner.

While JL is not the equal of the very top men in straight pool - she's NOT that far away. She has studied the game and played the game to a greater extent than many men in the field. If her back is in any decent condition to play; she may surprise you both. I, for one, find that her straight pool play and patterns are quite elegant - a pleasure to watch for any student of the game.

I hope you will pay some attention to the rueful smiles seen on the faces of Ervolino, West, and Fusco after she beat them in the national 14.1 tournament 7 or 8 years ago. She has improved significantly since then.
 

Black-Balled

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cueball1950 said:
Craig.... i will be there for a couple of days near the end. if you are going to still be there i will look you up and maybe buy you a beer........mike
Oh, so 87-86 has to slow down on the hops when you get there?!?!:eek: ;)
 

Black-Balled

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TheOne said:
Cheers guys, sure it will be great. Would have liked to see Strickland play too. Things change though and I'm sure more than 1 or 2 "unknowns" produce a few shocks, but there's still more than enough great names to ensure asuper strong last 32.
What?! YOu didn't get enough at Cambridge?!
 

Voodoo Daddy

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Voodoo's early bracket picks...

Provided they dont cancel each other out;

Group 1
USA Johnny Archer
USA Danny Harriman

Group 2
GER Oliver Ortmann
USA Dennis Hatch<~~~Top 3 when the smoke clears

Group 3
GER Thorsten Hohmann
USA John Schmidt

Group 4
USA Mike Sigel
GER Ralf Souquet

Group 5
FIN Mika Immonen
USA Jose Garcia
USA Steve Lipsky <~~just cant leave him out:D

Group 6
GER Thomas Engert
USA Tony Robles

Group 7
USA Nick Varner
FRA Stefan Cohen<~~~sentimental favorite

Group 8
USA Bobby Hunter
USA Mike Zuglan


Sad to see some of the "old school" left out like others posted. Why werent they invited? Were they and they declined?
 

Salamander

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Betmore,

I've seen Lee play 14.1 as well and was very impressed. I live in the same state as Minerich and I've seen her play also. Megan is just learning and I don't think she is a threat whatsoever. Of all the woman they could have invited to play in this tournament I think they should have gone with LEE, Corr, Fisher. I definately would be interested in seeing Fisher compete.

Corr and Fisher are such great methodical players I think they would really excel in the game.

Regards,

Doug



Williebetmore said:
Mander,
I wonder if you and gulfportdoc have ever seen Jeanette Lee play straight pool? This is NOT 9-ball with power breaking determining the winner.

While JL is not the equal of the very top men in straight pool - she's NOT that far away. She has studied the game and played the game to a greater extent than many men in the field. If her back is in any decent condition to play; she may surprise you both. I, for one, find that her straight pool play and patterns are quite elegant - a pleasure to watch for any student of the game.

I hope you will pay some attention to the rueful smiles seen on the faces of Ervolino, West, and Fusco after she beat them in the national 14.1 tournament 7 or 8 years ago. She has improved significantly since then.
 

Williebetmore

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Salamander said:
Betmore,

I've seen Lee play 14.1 as well and was very impressed.

Corr and Fisher are such great methodical players I think they would really excel in the game.

Regards,

Doug

Sal-man,
I would definitely agree that KC and AF would be more credible threats than MM (I also know they have both played some competitive 14.1).

I do think a LOT depends on the toughness of the equipment. The tighter the pockets, the more advantage goes to the true 14.1 students. There are a lot of areas where a true student can gain an advantage over a better shotmaker.

There are also many finer points to the game that are not in any book, that would be quite difficult for any player (even world class) to figure out on their own in any reasonable period of time, and that would give a player at least some advantage over a less knowledgeable player. If anyone disagrees, they need to spend a few hours with Grady Mathews or Danny D., then get back to me.

Lastly, players who play a lot of competitive 14.1 will have at least some advantage. Nothing else can prepare you for the long periods of intense concentration, the unique strategy requirements imposed as soon as you have an opponent (just running balls is NOT the whole game), and the level of pressure experienced during the last half hour of a long, close game.
 

sniper

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I'm sure that Hohmann vs Schmidt and Robles vs Engert will make for two very exciting matchups!

Best of luck Craig, stay out of trouble:D
 

StraightPoolIU

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I agree the Schmidt, Hohmann, Hopkins group looks extremely tough. Also, I'm not sure what we can expect out of Mike Sigel in this tournament. It's been a long time since we've all seen competitive straight pool, and with his bonfide credentials you have to at least give him some consideration. However, this isn't the Mike Sigel of the mid 1980s anymore...but then again he is playing more competetive pool with the IPT situation how it is. Who knows? I'll be rooting for him in any case.
 

jsp

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TheOne said:
Group 7
USA Nick Varner
PHI Dennis Orcullo
FRA Stefan Cohen
USA Danny Barouty
HUN Vilmos Foldes
USA Jimmy Mataya
GER Klaus Zobrekis
USA Ryan McCreesh
To all the Pinoys out there familiar with Orcullo's game, how likely is it that Orcullo will make it out of Group 7? How likely is it that he can actually win the whole thing? How much time has Dennis put into straight pool?

This tournament can potentially provide a great data point to help support my hypothesis that rotation is the game that gives you the most versatility, provided that Orcullo places well in the tourney.

Efren, a rotation specialist, won the Maine straight pool tournament in 1995, and I'm assuming his straight pool experience was limitted at the time (at least compared to the other straight pool greats that participated in that tournament). If another rotation specialist (Orcullo) takes the title away from the straight pool aficionados, it only helps prove my theory that rotation is THE game to play to give you the most well-rounded game.
 
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TheOne

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jsp said:
To all the Pinoys out there familiar with Orcullo's game, how likely is it that Orcullo will make it out of Group 7? How likely is it that he can actually win the whole thing? How much time has Dennis put into straight pool?

This tournament can potentially provide a great data point to help support my hypothesis that rotation is the game that gives you the most versatility, provided that Orcullo places well in the tourney.

Efren, a rotation specialist, won the Maine straight pool tournament in 1995, and I'm assuming his straight pool experience was limitted at the time (at least compared to the other straight pool greats that participated in that tournament). If another rotation specialist (Orcullo) takes the title away from the straight pool aficionados, it only helps prove my theory that rotation is THE game to play to give you the most well-rounded game.

Ithink Manalo winning the Jersey comp last year also adds to your theory but we'll know soon enough. I think group 7 is the hardest group of the lot.
 

sjm

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OK, this isn't easy with all these great players, but I'll take a shot. The top two in each group will be (fingers crossed):


Group 1
USA Johnny Archer
USA Danny Harriman

Group 2
GER Oliver Ortmann
USA Carlos Vieira

Group 3
GER Thorsten Hohmann
USA John Schmidt

Group 4
USA Jeanette Lee
GER Ralf Souquet

Group 5
GER Nico Otterman
USA Steve Lipsky

Group 6
GER Thomas Engert
USA Tony Robles

Group 7
USA Nick Varner
USA Danny Barouty

Group 8
USA Mike Zuglan
USA Charlie Williams
 
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